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Glacierz

United States1245 Posts

July 31 2018 02:32 GMT

#28781

Hmm... I took a quick look on trade, there are very few VD helm enchants selling, all with pretty insane prices. I probably also need 6L elder gloves and attack speed for the frenzy setup. Looks like these two items will run around 20 ex total, not sure if I want to invest that much into this one.

hunts

United States2113 Posts

July 31 2018 03:23 GMT

#28782

Ok I'm home and on a pc now. Yeah I can imagine it's a nightmare to try and gear out a character in league now. If you want an idea of what gear to get this was my character, the empty jewel slots were fevered minds. Honestly if you want to make currency this league still I probably would not do a zerphi's poets pen build, because it mostly excels at farming uber elder, and the profit from that has gone way down other than if you get lucky with a good watcher's eye. I did about 30 runs this league and only got 2 watchers eyes, one I sold for 4 ex and the other was garbage, sold for like 10c lol.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/disturbed_999/characters character name was HuntsDumbIdiotBuild

Glacierz

United States1245 Posts

July 31 2018 03:40 GMT

#28783

Thanks a lot! I poured all my currency into a MF TS build, so I'm not really looking to farm with this one. TS isn't so good on bosses so I figured I'd switch for the boss room with poet.

Sniped this for 65c, I think the guy didn't know about the build and there's a mod open. I feel pretty happy about it now haha.
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P.S. Took a look at your profile, pretty sure your helm is worth a ton now.

hunts

United States2113 Posts

July 31 2018 05:47 GMT

#28784

Nice, those are some really nice gloves for that build! I will say the build is pretty fun, other than incursions being a bit hard to get the doors on if you get unlucky and the fragment drops from the last mob on the other side of the room from the door you want to open. I didn't do it until later in the league when uber elder wasn't as profitable, but I'm thinking starting a new league as poets pen and switching into zerphis once you can afford the flask and farming uber elder could be quite good. I mean I guess you can probably do it earlier by going for a less gear dependant build like arc trap/mines or something.

-Archangel-

Croatia7457 Posts

July 31 2018 07:48 GMT

#28785

So anyone planning to play upcoming flashback race?
They said now each of the 4 leagues will get seperate rewards, so anyone planning to try their luck in SSF? :D
What characters do you plan to play?

I was thinking about Saboteur Arc Miner or Arc Trapper, don't know yet if SSF SC or trade SC.

ThaddeusK

United States233 Posts

July 31 2018 13:23 GMT

#28786

Gonna try SSF as arc totems, only playing until the WoW expac comes out so it seems like a good chance to find out if not trading is enough of a benefit to overcome having to actually id rares and pick up small currency.

Glacierz

United States1245 Posts

July 31 2018 13:45 GMT

#28787

Instead of Zerphi's, there is an indigon variant of the Poet Pen build that's a lot cheaper. I think there's a guide in the templar section of the forum.

Duka08

3391 Posts

July 31 2018 15:30 GMT

#28788

On July 31 2018 16:48 -Archangel- wrote:
So anyone planning to play upcoming flashback race?
They said now each of the 4 leagues will get seperate rewards, so anyone planning to try their luck in SSF? :D
What characters do you plan to play?

I was thinking about Saboteur Arc Miner or Arc Trapper, don't know yet if SSF SC or trade SC.

It crossed my mind. I'm gonna play something a little sillier like 2H Infernal Blow which could probably work fine in SSF. But I also wanted to meme out and go full tanky for some experimentation which means Koams Heart and stuff which has me leaning trade league. Idk yet. Should be fun though.

hunts

United States2113 Posts

July 31 2018 18:50 GMT

#28789

I'm thinking I'm going to do the flashback and actually try to race for a demialthough I doubt I can get an alt art one. Plan right now is trickster level as ed and then when I van switch to windripper. I think going wr or wand is the fastest for basically every ascendency, especially since it can take advantage of headhunter. I was undecided between slayer and trickster since both were very slow in the last flashback but trickster with mom is going to be more tanky and I think not dying in the high 90s would save more time than the slightly better clear speed slayer would have. Maybe anyone here have some suggestions? To clarify if I play which will depend on my work which I won't know until Thursday, I'll be doing SC trade league

Glacierz

United States1245 Posts

July 31 2018 19:22 GMT

#28790

So flashback is like a parallel league to the current league with some additional mechanics/restrictions? Are they doing this because people get burned out midway through the season or something?

hunts

United States2113 Posts

July 31 2018 19:42 GMT

#28791

Yeah I think because people get bored with the league quickly, and also people wanted racing and ggg didn't want to do races so they did the 1 race event

Gorsameth

Netherlands22095 Posts

July 31 2018 20:08 GMT

#28792

On August 01 2018 04:22 Glacierz wrote:
So flashback is like a parallel league to the current league with some additional mechanics/restrictions? Are they doing this because people get burned out midway through the season or something?

I think that is it yeah. Its a big wave form in terms of player attention.
A new patch with a new league, everyone excited lots of people playing and over time the interest and attention just drops as people hit grind walls or complete whatever objective they set themselves. And if the next patch with its corresponding league is not yet ready you need something to bump interest back up.
So they do something that requires a minimum of effort by recycling old league mechanics to create a fresh start a new spike of interest that carries them to the next thing.

Its important to keep players engaged in a f2p game because a bored player is not going to spend money in your store.

Sn0_Man

Tebellong44238 Posts

July 31 2018 21:02 GMT

#28793

People just like fresh economies. I know i do.

It's not like GGG can pump out decent expansions every month (nor would that be good for the game, i'm pretty sure the current rate is already reasonably harmful). This is how they put out a fresh economy to bring players back during low-play-time parts of the cycle without costing them dev time.

Tappo

101 Posts

July 31 2018 21:12 GMT

#28794

On August 01 2018 06:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
People just like fresh economies. I know i do.

It's not like GGG can pump out decent expansions every month (nor would that be good for the game, i'm pretty sure the current rate is already reasonably harmful). This is how they put out a fresh economy to bring players back during low-play-time parts of the cycle without costing them dev time.

The current frequency of expansions is pretty much what keeps the game profitable. https://steamcharts.com/app/238960. The game bleeds like crazy. It doesnt seem to matter how fast they expand the game

Soltanol

Germany55 Posts

July 31 2018 21:36 GMT

#28795

Did they ever explain why they dont do "real" race seasons anymore? Even though i never stood any chance in races, it was fun to try and get better

Sn0_Man

Tebellong44238 Posts

July 31 2018 21:41 GMT

#28796

They gave a few justifications that boiled down to:

Primarily, because race seasons need "a lot" of dev time to figure out the events, code the modifiers, set up the calendar, and especially artist time to create custom art for the race rewards (often including 3d art). They determined that dev time was more profitably spent on regular expansions, especially with the heightened cadence (no "small" leagues anymore, basically full expansion every 3 months).

Secondary reasons included that players felt pulled apart between the league and the races, and that it was really hard to balance race rewards such that they were simultaneously worth your time to participate in, but not a strictly superior route to wealth generation (although at this point the remove only tabs appear basically after the league is over).

I believe their numbers on player engagement in racing weren't too exciting when they quit.

Soltanol

Germany55 Posts

August 01 2018 10:00 GMT

#28797

Thanks for the explanation.

Glacierz

United States1245 Posts

August 01 2018 15:17 GMT

#28798

Trying the MF build ruined my PoE experience...

After running maps with 75%ish IIQ for a few weeks, it started to feel bad playing with other builds. The difference was very noticeable on currency and map sustain, and demotivated me from grinding with my other chars...

Duka08

3391 Posts

August 01 2018 15:53 GMT

#28799

On August 02 2018 00:17 Glacierz wrote:
Trying the MF build ruined my PoE experience...

After running maps with 75%ish IIQ for a few weeks, it started to feel bad playing with other builds. The difference was very noticeable on currency and map sustain, and demotivated me from grinding with my other chars...

This is how I felt after playing BV Elementalist this league, which is basically a way cheaper and more consistent autobomber. Shield Charging through hallways and shattering stuff in waves two screens away. It was so fun and so good. Every other idea I had and the couple of builds I actually tried felt like trash in comparison, for speed for MF for cheap single target... So I'm just waiting til 3.4 (and flashback I suppose) to play new things lol.

ThaddeusK

United States233 Posts

August 01 2018 23:16 GMT

#28800

Just FYI, IIQ on gear does not affect map drops, so that bit atleast is just in your head.