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Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-12 18:28:09
July 12 2018 18:21 GMT
#28761
I just checked standard, my +2 barrage tempest binding is now worth 70 ex lol

Also noticed Queen of the Forest evasion took a huge hit, my old one had like 370%... Was there a massive nerf targeting wander builds at some point?
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
July 13 2018 08:15 GMT
#28762
On July 13 2018 03:21 Glacierz wrote:
I just checked standard, my +2 barrage tempest binding is now worth 70 ex lol

Also noticed Queen of the Forest evasion took a huge hit, my old one had like 370%... Was there a massive nerf targeting wander builds at some point?

QotF was nerfed last league I think.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2866 Posts
July 17 2018 18:09 GMT
#28763
On July 13 2018 17:15 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 03:21 Glacierz wrote:
I just checked standard, my +2 barrage tempest binding is now worth 70 ex lol

Also noticed Queen of the Forest evasion took a huge hit, my old one had like 370%... Was there a massive nerf targeting wander builds at some point?

QotF was nerfed last league I think.

Yeh, evasion lowered and move speed from evasion got a cap.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-18 15:03:17
July 18 2018 15:02 GMT
#28764
Are MF builds expected to clear red map bosses? I'm currently using QotF, windripper, sadima's, goldwyrm, and 2x ventors with capped resists and 4.5k HP. I don't think I can tank the dmg to do them smoothly.
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
July 18 2018 15:29 GMT
#28765
On July 19 2018 00:02 Glacierz wrote:
Are MF builds expected to clear red map bosses? I'm currently using QotF, windripper, sadima's, goldwyrm, and 2x ventors with capped resists and 4.5k HP. I don't think I can tank the dmg to do them smoothly.

With the powercreep of abyss jewels, mf windripper build can kill the shaper with mf gear.
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Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
July 18 2018 15:45 GMT
#28766
End game abyss jewels are pretty expensive. The 4 property ones with a combination of flat ele dmg, attack speed and life usually go for 10+ ex each, and the build needs a lot of them so it will take a while to get there. Is the correct playstyle to burst down the bosses as quick as possible before you get 1 shot? I don't think more HP with this build helps that much.
Quateras
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany867 Posts
July 18 2018 19:42 GMT
#28767
Shaper in general shouldnt ever hit you with anything at all if you play a bowchar, he has very telegraphed attacks that are rather easy to avoid.
That aside good 3 prop abyss jewels are good enough, dont necessarily have to be 4 prop to do endgame bossing.
(smarter btw to not play with barrage and point blank for endgame bosses,its much easier with ranged kill and far shot usage via RoA or TS)
"If you don't know where you are going, you can never get lost."
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-19 11:51:22
July 19 2018 10:38 GMT
#28768
Does anyone know an active player on IHC with cata8?

Edit: Think I found a guy #PleaseNoScammerino
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Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-20 15:05:06
July 20 2018 15:04 GMT
#28769
On July 19 2018 04:42 Quateras wrote:
Shaper in general shouldnt ever hit you with anything at all if you play a bowchar, he has very telegraphed attacks that are rather easy to avoid.
That aside good 3 prop abyss jewels are good enough, dont necessarily have to be 4 prop to do endgame bossing.
(smarter btw to not play with barrage and point blank for endgame bosses,its much easier with ranged kill and far shot usage via RoA or TS)

I don't think Shaper will be a huge problem, but some of the red map bosses / incursion rooms tend to be tricky. You are right about bossing with point blank and barrage, I never felt safe with it beyond T11.

I have 6L barrage on bow and 6L TS on chest, is barrage worth using at all without point blank? If not what else should I put in the other 6L?
Quateras
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany867 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-20 19:01:23
July 20 2018 19:00 GMT
#28770
On July 21 2018 00:04 Glacierz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2018 04:42 Quateras wrote:
Shaper in general shouldnt ever hit you with anything at all if you play a bowchar, he has very telegraphed attacks that are rather easy to avoid.
That aside good 3 prop abyss jewels are good enough, dont necessarily have to be 4 prop to do endgame bossing.
(smarter btw to not play with barrage and point blank for endgame bosses,its much easier with ranged kill and far shot usage via RoA or TS)

I don't think Shaper will be a huge problem, but some of the red map bosses / incursion rooms tend to be tricky. You are right about bossing with point blank and barrage, I never felt safe with it beyond T11.

I have 6L barrage on bow and 6L TS on chest, is barrage worth using at all without point blank? If not what else should I put in the other 6L?


Usually Barrage without point blank isnt worth it, cause the arrows spread out too much that many just wont hit the boss at all.
I love Kaoms Heart + 6 link in bow myself, if the stats of the armor arent that important other than defense.
Otherwise can think about a curse
(Ele weakness, Proj Weakness etc.) + Frenzy+GMP+Power charge on crit set up as your non TS.

PS : if you dont have TS helmet enchant (additional secondary projectiles) sell your 2nd 6-link and buy TS helmet enchant + 5-link armor/Bow, its insane dps boost for single target.
"If you don't know where you are going, you can never get lost."
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-21 03:58:33
July 21 2018 03:43 GMT
#28771
On July 21 2018 04:00 Quateras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2018 00:04 Glacierz wrote:
On July 19 2018 04:42 Quateras wrote:
Shaper in general shouldnt ever hit you with anything at all if you play a bowchar, he has very telegraphed attacks that are rather easy to avoid.
That aside good 3 prop abyss jewels are good enough, dont necessarily have to be 4 prop to do endgame bossing.
(smarter btw to not play with barrage and point blank for endgame bosses,its much easier with ranged kill and far shot usage via RoA or TS)

I don't think Shaper will be a huge problem, but some of the red map bosses / incursion rooms tend to be tricky. You are right about bossing with point blank and barrage, I never felt safe with it beyond T11.

I have 6L barrage on bow and 6L TS on chest, is barrage worth using at all without point blank? If not what else should I put in the other 6L?


Usually Barrage without point blank isnt worth it, cause the arrows spread out too much that many just wont hit the boss at all.
I love Kaoms Heart + 6 link in bow myself, if the stats of the armor arent that important other than defense.
Otherwise can think about a curse
(Ele weakness, Proj Weakness etc.) + Frenzy+GMP+Power charge on crit set up as your non TS.

PS : if you dont have TS helmet enchant (additional secondary projectiles) sell your 2nd 6-link and buy TS helmet enchant + 5-link armor/Bow, its insane dps boost for single target.

I have +2 TS on helm and a rigwald, so the dmg is already pretty good. This is more of a mapping build and I'd prefer to keep the movespeed from QotF. I will try out the curse idea, maybe look for a corrupt ammy with + additional curse so I can fit 2 in there.

This is my last and most expensive char this league, I think I dumped over 20 ex into it and so far it made about 18ex back chain farming maps.
Joni_
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany355 Posts
July 24 2018 16:26 GMT
#28772
When I corrupt a map, the resulting map potentially rolled into a map one tier higher. The last time I played was during Harbinger and as far as I remember, there used to be no regulations on what the resulting map could be. Now it seems like everytime I do get this result, the resulting map is a map is one connected to my completed maps on the atlas.

Am I just being unlucky (this used to be one of the main ways for me to speed up red map completion) or was this changed at some point?
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
July 24 2018 16:38 GMT
#28773
I've had the same experience in Incursion, though I don't know how recent that change is.
incinerate_
Profile Joined October 2010
172 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-24 18:18:09
July 24 2018 18:14 GMT
#28774
It's been like that since the atlas was introduced (i.e. 3.1.0). I'm not entirely sure whether it's a random connected map or whichever you'd get form a 3to1 trade in. Should probably be on the wiki.

It's any adjacent map according to Karv's guide (pastebin.com) which should still be pretty up to date.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-30 14:35:16
July 30 2018 14:34 GMT
#28775
Does anyone have experience with the Poet Pen + Zerphi build? The guides say you are suppose to run blood rage or RF with MoM to keep the mana at 0, but then I need to spam frenzy at all times to keep my HP from draining. It's rather annoying and I can't just take my time and pick up loot after each incursion etc...

It feels like the only nice thing about it is you can blindly tank all bosses, but mapping with it just doesn't feel as smooth.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 30 2018 15:27 GMT
#28776
I mean, RF is a lot to offset, but most builds can figure out a way to not degen too badly from blood rage, especially since mom makes your mana regen count as well. Plus blood rage naturally ends after ~15s and gives attackspeed.
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hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
July 30 2018 17:33 GMT
#28777
just use bloodrage, you'll out regen it anyway, and yeah I was using it to farm uber elder this league, really dumb build. I could sit there and tank everything except for shaper smash. I was just running vitality+anger for mapping and using blood rage, using a watchers eye with crit mult from anger, health recovery rate from vitality, and phys damage taken as cold from purity of ice. For uber elder I ran vitality purity of ice and arctic armor. I didn't have enough mana left to use blood rage with that set up so I used RF for uber elder. lmk if you have any other questions about playing it.
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Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
July 30 2018 18:07 GMT
#28778
Yea I can out regen bloodrage but not RF. My gems are not maxed yet so clearing the incursion rooms within time limit is also a big problem. A couple questions:

1. How many fevered mind should I use? I'm at 3 right now.
2. How important is it to get the volatile dead helm enchant? I'm trying to get it on a incursion base with phys dmg taken as elemental, don't really want to buy it given the ridiculous price on these.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-30 21:05:03
July 30 2018 19:15 GMT
#28779
I had a lot of clearing problems with high tier incursions at first too and honestly with really good gear sometimes still would just because of the lack of movement speed when there aren't mobs for bodyswap. I used 4 fevered minds but 3 shold also be enough, I think in the end I dropped to 3 and used a rare jewel in place of one. The helm enchant is really good, it changes your vd from 3 balls per attack to 4, which is a very big boost. What I did was just bought a high base with the enchant and threw the highest tier essences of greed at it until I got s pretty decent roll, I didn't bother for any of the temple mods or anything. I think it's better to have the enchant on a decent helm than have a better helm without it, especially since the build is already so tanky. Also not sure if you've played poet before but getting cool down reduction on boots and belt and getting the right amount of attack speed is also a very large dps boost. I'm not sure how prices are at this point in the league but earlier when I was gearing the character I found it much cheaper to buy a pair of I think 84 shaper two toned boots and spam screaming essence of zeal to grantee 25 move speed when you do hit cool down recovery. Also for belt it was much cheaper to buy a shaper heavy or leather belt and spam chaos until I got something decent with cool down recovery.

Sorry on phone.
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Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
July 31 2018 01:42 GMT
#28780
K thnx for the tips, will work on the helm enchant first.
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