EPTNBA Playoffs (2010-2011) - Page 30
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TwoToneTerran
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
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Demarini
United States151 Posts
All of a sudden the Heats defense becomes this spectacular force, just like the Lakers last finals. The Heat are being allowed to play far more physical than the Celtics are being allowed. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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thehorsebecomesking
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On May 04 2011 10:18 Demarini wrote: Boston is getting hammered on the boards without any calls while the heat gets their shirt brushed and it's a foul. How many times is big baby gonna go up for a layup and get destroyed, while Lebron James does a fadeaway shot that allows no one to touch him that gets called. Cs are getting destroyed. It's like Lebron didn't bother too much until everybody else started to suck. Then he ezpzed the whole thing. It's scary but I'm starting to smell some shit. Sweep? | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On May 04 2011 10:18 Demarini wrote: Boston is getting hammered on the boards without any calls while the heat gets their shirt brushed and it's a foul. How many times is big baby gonna go up for a layup and get destroyed, while Lebron James does a fadeaway shot that allows no one to touch him that gets called. All of a sudden the Heats defense becomes this spectacular force, just like the Lakers last finals. The Heat are being allowed to play far more physical than the Celtics are being allowed. Baseline officiating, also known as Joey Crawford. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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thehorsebecomesking
189 Posts
On May 04 2011 10:26 Jerubaal wrote: Rondo looks like he's going to cry. you just make yourself sound retarded | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On May 04 2011 10:18 Demarini wrote: Boston is getting hammered on the boards without any calls while the heat gets their shirt brushed and it's a foul. How many times is big baby gonna go up for a layup and get destroyed, while Lebron James does a fadeaway shot that allows no one to touch him that gets called. All of a sudden the Heats defense becomes this spectacular force, just like the Lakers last finals. The Heat are being allowed to play far more physical than the Celtics are being allowed. Everything Lebron and Wade get are the exact same calls Pierce, Kobe, Durant, Westbrook, CP3, Derrick Rose, etc get. The players are very aware of where the ref is at and pull contact, and sometimes even initiate it, fully intent on getting the foul. It takes a very cerebral player with excellent body control to get these calls and that's what separates star players from 2nd team allstars. | ||
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Demarini
United States151 Posts
On May 04 2011 10:35 TwoToneTerran wrote: Everything Lebron and Wade get are the exact same calls Pierce, Kobe, Durant, Westbrook, CP3, Derrick Rose, etc get. The players are very aware of where the ref is at and pull contact, and sometimes even initiate it, fully intent on getting the foul. It takes a very cerebral player with excellent body control to get these calls and that's what separates star players from 2nd team allstars. That's the thing though, all of those players draw contact, but half the times I don't even see Lebron or Wade get touched(for example that move Wade made on KG, or the fadeaway shot that Lebron had toward the end to put the Heat up 10 after the foul shots). | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
On May 04 2011 10:34 thehorsebecomesking wrote: you just make yourself sound retarded Did you watch the game? | ||
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hasuprotoss
United States4664 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
On May 04 2011 10:37 Demarini wrote: That's the thing though, all of those players draw contact, but half the times I don't even see Lebron or Wade get touched(for example that move Wade made on KG, or the fadeaway shot that Lebron had toward the end to put the Heat up 10 after the foul shots). of course you didn't see them, you were watching from the baseline... oh wait... | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
Pretty entertaining game. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On May 04 2011 10:37 Demarini wrote: That's the thing though, all of those players draw contact, but half the times I don't even see Lebron or Wade get touched(for example that move Wade made on KG, or the fadeaway shot that Lebron had toward the end to put the Heat up 10 after the foul shots). Garnet swiped Wade's waist very obviously because he let his arm drag out when he juked him. Lebron's fadeaway had clear forearm contact. Those aren't even the "bullshit" calls, the inside basket driving ones are the ones most people complain about stars getting. edit: I can't find the Lebron Fadeaway, but I did find Dwayne's eurostep on garnet | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On May 04 2011 10:40 TwoToneTerran wrote: edit: I can't find the Lebron Fadeaway, but I did find Dwayne's eurostep on garnet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mum4U2JQi-o&feature=youtu.be That move was frightening. I read Simmons today and he said that we'll see 10 Wades before another Ginobili. And while I can see where that sentiment comes from, Dwyane Wade is one of the "generation" players. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On May 04 2011 10:54 slyboogie wrote: That move was frightening. I read Simmons today and he said that we'll see 10 Wades before another Ginobili. And while I can see where that sentiment comes from, Dwyane Wade is one of the "generation" players. Simmons is an idiot if he said that. Dwayne Wade is, at his best, the best player in the league. Ginboli has never been a top 10 player. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Edit: And I had to point out to a Lakers fan about how Kobe's career arc changed after 08 (Gasol trade). Big flammable point that ended in Kobe fan tears: Kobe had the better career but he never peaked like Wade. Based on best seasons, doing the most with the worst teams, and career averages Wade has Kobe beat. Badly. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On May 04 2011 11:03 Ace wrote: You have to read the column but he wasn't comparing top players. He was talking stylistically and in terms of Ginobli hitting some of the craziest shots he's seen. Dwayne Wade has probably hit more crazy shots in his playoff run in 06 than Ginobli has in his entire career. I doubt we'll see 10 Finals MVP, League Lead scoring super stars before we see a player with a lot of finesse and pass savvy, which is really Ginobli's only identifying features. On May 04 2011 11:03 Ace wrote: Edit: And I had to point out to a Lakers fan about how Kobe's career arc changed after 08 (Gasol trade). Big flammable point that ended in Kobe fan tears: Kobe had the better career but he never peaked like Wade. Based on best seasons, doing the most with the worst teams, and career averages Wade has Kobe beat. Badly. Yeah, there has never been a team more carried to a championship than Dwayne Wade's 06 team. He's the entire reason I'm a heat fan because I hadn't seen anyone as incredibly dynamic since MJ. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On May 04 2011 10:58 TwoToneTerran wrote: Simmons is an idiot if he said that. Dwayne Wade is, at his best, the best player in the league. Ginboli has never been a top 10 player. He's an idiot sometimes and insightful other times, like all writers. But to defend him, his point is that Manu is a "weird" player. He's left handed, perennially older than his competition, herky-jerky and has range. Simmons never said that Manu was better than Wade, only that, as viewers, we will see Dwyane Wade 2.0 before we see Manu 2.0. To editorialize a little, that Wade is totally amazing, that move in the video was basically Manu's but with added power and explosiveness. | ||
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