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On June 15 2011 10:10 Brees wrote:
I laugh everytime some one brings up the idea that the decision was even remotely Lebron's idea.
"yo guys I want to have a one hour special on TV about this and this is how its gonna go down"
lol delusional.
big names used this stunt as a source of money to be gained from lots of viewers watching this shit, when they give you the money to do it, its kinda hard to just be like nah i dont want free money.
You know there's an idea that you can say: NO!
There is no Decision without Lebron but he chose to go along with it if that was the case, which makes him even more of a jackass.
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Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On June 15 2011 10:27 Judicator wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 10:10 Brees wrote:
I laugh everytime some one brings up the idea that the decision was even remotely Lebron's idea.
"yo guys I want to have a one hour special on TV about this and this is how its gonna go down"
lol delusional.
big names used this stunt as a source of money to be gained from lots of viewers watching this shit, when they give you the money to do it, its kinda hard to just be like nah i dont want free money. You know there's an idea that you can say: NO! There is no Decision without Lebron but he chose to go along with it if that was the case, which makes him even more of a jackass.
yea im sure you would turn down 100 grand if your boss asked you to fire a group of employees or do some other jackass move.
get off your high horse.
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Osaka27174 Posts
On June 15 2011 10:10 Brees wrote:
I laugh everytime some one brings up the idea that the decision was even remotely Lebron's idea.
"yo guys I want to have a one hour special on TV about this and this is how its gonna go down"
lol delusional.
big names used this stunt as a source of money to be gained from lots of viewers watching this shit, when they give you the money to do it, its kinda hard to just be like nah i dont want free money.
I suppose his nickname "King", his tattoo of "The Chosen One", and him taking 23 with the Cavs were none of his ideas too?
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Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On June 15 2011 10:31 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 10:10 Brees wrote:
I laugh everytime some one brings up the idea that the decision was even remotely Lebron's idea.
"yo guys I want to have a one hour special on TV about this and this is how its gonna go down"
lol delusional.
big names used this stunt as a source of money to be gained from lots of viewers watching this shit, when they give you the money to do it, its kinda hard to just be like nah i dont want free money. I suppose his nickname "King", his tattoo of "The Chosen One", and him taking 23 with the Cavs were none of his ideas too?
When everyone promoted the idea of calling him king james and cleveland, why wouldnt you go with it?
Tattoos are stupid in general, better then getting a serious tattoo like a fucking dragon on your back, those are way worse.
A lot of players draw inspiration from great players so i dont really see your point with the number. Showing respect to a great player.
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On June 15 2011 10:29 Brees wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 10:27 Judicator wrote:On June 15 2011 10:10 Brees wrote:
I laugh everytime some one brings up the idea that the decision was even remotely Lebron's idea.
"yo guys I want to have a one hour special on TV about this and this is how its gonna go down"
lol delusional.
big names used this stunt as a source of money to be gained from lots of viewers watching this shit, when they give you the money to do it, its kinda hard to just be like nah i dont want free money. You know there's an idea that you can say: NO! There is no Decision without Lebron but he chose to go along with it if that was the case, which makes him even more of a jackass. yea im sure you would turn down 100 grand if your boss asked you to fire a group of employees or do some other jackass move. get off your high horse.
So your dignity is worth a 100 grand? This isn't some childish dare or a prank. 100 grand a lot of money when your contract is in the tens of millions...yeah totally worth it.
Get off what high horse? I am not in Lebron's position, I am not a fucking global icon, a supposed role model, or making millions.
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This is why famous people have PR people.
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On June 15 2011 10:29 Brees wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 10:27 Judicator wrote:On June 15 2011 10:10 Brees wrote:
I laugh everytime some one brings up the idea that the decision was even remotely Lebron's idea.
"yo guys I want to have a one hour special on TV about this and this is how its gonna go down"
lol delusional.
big names used this stunt as a source of money to be gained from lots of viewers watching this shit, when they give you the money to do it, its kinda hard to just be like nah i dont want free money. You know there's an idea that you can say: NO! There is no Decision without Lebron but he chose to go along with it if that was the case, which makes him even more of a jackass. yea im sure you would turn down 100 grand if your boss asked you to fire a group of employees or do some other jackass move. get off your high horse.
That probably hurt his long term marketability if anything. If making money was LeBron's top priority then he would not have gone to Miami. Cleveland could have offered him a bigger contract and a bigger market team would have generated a lot more money as well (knicks?). Relative to LeBron's income and overall net worth, "The Decision" is equivalent to nickle and diming. LeBron could try a lot harder to find money making opportunities that would be just as lucrative and far less detrimental to his image.
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The only saving grace he has had publicly is that he petitioned for 23 to be retired throughout the entire nba.
+ Show Spoiler +....After he wore it in cleveland
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LOL lets ban hack-a-shaq instead.
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United States10774 Posts
On June 15 2011 10:29 Brees wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 10:27 Judicator wrote:On June 15 2011 10:10 Brees wrote:
I laugh everytime some one brings up the idea that the decision was even remotely Lebron's idea.
"yo guys I want to have a one hour special on TV about this and this is how its gonna go down"
lol delusional.
big names used this stunt as a source of money to be gained from lots of viewers watching this shit, when they give you the money to do it, its kinda hard to just be like nah i dont want free money. You know there's an idea that you can say: NO! There is no Decision without Lebron but he chose to go along with it if that was the case, which makes him even more of a jackass. yea im sure you would turn down 100 grand if your boss asked you to fire a group of employees or do some other jackass move. get off your high horse.
he did it because he wanted to, not for the money. i don't give a damn whose idea it was.
why are you telling him to get off his high horse? if anything you are the one being condescending towards other posters.
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The Decision was ill-conceived self aggrandizement. It is quintessentially Lebron.
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On June 15 2011 07:44 Malinor wrote:
I could care less about this LeBron business and who is the most arrogant player.
But I know that I will not root for a person that has a tattoo on his back that says "CHOSEN 1". To say that someone like that is a more down to earth athlete than other guys with big egos... sorry, but I don't buy it.
edit: And with this post I am a mutalisk, liked my lurker though -.-
Who the hell cares if he's a douche? It doesn't matter if you have an arrogant tattoo. I don't really care about a player's personality or what they do off the field unless it's funny, or unless the athlete is some total motherfucker who kills dogs or something like Michael Vick.
Any real fan knows that the the only "talking" that matters is done on the field, which is pretty much shown in this thread, since everyone is bashing LeBron for being arrogant even though many other great players are huge douches as well (like Michael Jordan), just because they have championships.
I'm so sick of hearing about the Decision. It was almost a year ago, get over it. I feel like the Cleveland people have taken the wounded city thing too far, and that they should have shut up when the Cavs turtled in their first game against LeBron and the Heat in December.
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On June 15 2011 11:30 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 07:44 Malinor wrote:
I could care less about this LeBron business and who is the most arrogant player.
But I know that I will not root for a person that has a tattoo on his back that says "CHOSEN 1". To say that someone like that is a more down to earth athlete than other guys with big egos... sorry, but I don't buy it.
edit: And with this post I am a mutalisk, liked my lurker though -.- Who the hell cares if he's a douche? It doesn't matter if you have an arrogant tattoo. I don't really care about a player's personality or what they do off the field unless it's funny, or unless the athlete is some total motherfucker who kills dogs or something like Michael Vick. Any real fan knows that the the only "talking" that matters is done on the field, which is pretty much shown in this thread, since everyone is bashing LeBron for being arrogant even though many other great players are huge douches as well (like Michael Jordan), just because they have championships. I'm so sick of hearing about the Decision. It was almost a year ago, get over it. I feel like the Cleveland people have taken the wounded city thing too far, and that they should have shut up when the Cavs turtled in their first game against LeBron and the Heat in December.
I think you are mistaking the fact that LeBron talks a lot...and has no championships to his name. If you think the Decision is the start...well then you are mistaken...this was several seasons in the making. A number of writers and bloggers started to take notice of his attitude long before the Decision. Keep that in mind, and honestly the backlash wouldn't be anywhere near as bad if it was any other city BUT Cleveland...but it was.
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On June 15 2011 11:35 Judicator wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 11:30 Ferrose wrote:On June 15 2011 07:44 Malinor wrote:
I could care less about this LeBron business and who is the most arrogant player.
But I know that I will not root for a person that has a tattoo on his back that says "CHOSEN 1". To say that someone like that is a more down to earth athlete than other guys with big egos... sorry, but I don't buy it.
edit: And with this post I am a mutalisk, liked my lurker though -.- Who the hell cares if he's a douche? It doesn't matter if you have an arrogant tattoo. I don't really care about a player's personality or what they do off the field unless it's funny, or unless the athlete is some total motherfucker who kills dogs or something like Michael Vick. Any real fan knows that the the only "talking" that matters is done on the field, which is pretty much shown in this thread, since everyone is bashing LeBron for being arrogant even though many other great players are huge douches as well (like Michael Jordan), just because they have championships. I'm so sick of hearing about the Decision. It was almost a year ago, get over it. I feel like the Cleveland people have taken the wounded city thing too far, and that they should have shut up when the Cavs turtled in their first game against LeBron and the Heat in December. I think you are mistaking the fact that LeBron talks a lot...and has no championships to his name. If you think the Decision is the start...well then you are mistaken...this was several seasons in the making. A number of writers and bloggers started to take notice of his attitude long before the Decision. Keep that in mind, and honestly the backlash wouldn't be anywhere near as bad if it was any other city BUT Cleveland...but it was.
I know that he was a douche before then, but what I'm saying is that all that matters is what happens on the court, and that it doesn't matter if he's a douche off the court.
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On June 15 2011 11:39 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 11:35 Judicator wrote:On June 15 2011 11:30 Ferrose wrote:On June 15 2011 07:44 Malinor wrote:
I could care less about this LeBron business and who is the most arrogant player.
But I know that I will not root for a person that has a tattoo on his back that says "CHOSEN 1". To say that someone like that is a more down to earth athlete than other guys with big egos... sorry, but I don't buy it.
edit: And with this post I am a mutalisk, liked my lurker though -.- Who the hell cares if he's a douche? It doesn't matter if you have an arrogant tattoo. I don't really care about a player's personality or what they do off the field unless it's funny, or unless the athlete is some total motherfucker who kills dogs or something like Michael Vick. Any real fan knows that the the only "talking" that matters is done on the field, which is pretty much shown in this thread, since everyone is bashing LeBron for being arrogant even though many other great players are huge douches as well (like Michael Jordan), just because they have championships. I'm so sick of hearing about the Decision. It was almost a year ago, get over it. I feel like the Cleveland people have taken the wounded city thing too far, and that they should have shut up when the Cavs turtled in their first game against LeBron and the Heat in December. I think you are mistaking the fact that LeBron talks a lot...and has no championships to his name. If you think the Decision is the start...well then you are mistaken...this was several seasons in the making. A number of writers and bloggers started to take notice of his attitude long before the Decision. Keep that in mind, and honestly the backlash wouldn't be anywhere near as bad if it was any other city BUT Cleveland...but it was. I know that he was a douche before then, but what I'm saying is that all that matters is what happens on the court, and that it doesn't matter if he's a douche off the court.
When you talk about winning a championship like some God-given right and then promptly disappear 3 playoff series in a row, it matters on and off the court.
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There's a difference than his promise to deliver a championship to Cleveland, since that city hasn't had one in like 6 decades in any sports and have gotten destroyed in the worst ways, than to go to Miami and start saying insta-dynasty mode.
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On June 15 2011 11:23 NovaTheFeared wrote:
The Decision was ill-conceived self aggrandizement. It is quintessentially Lebron.
There is actually an interesting story behind "The Decision". ESPN actually orchestrated the whole event. Lebron initially resisted until they told him that all the money made off the show would go to the Boys and Girls club. Even in interviews Lebron said he doesn't regret The Decision because he said he made over 2 million dollars for the Boys and Girls Club but the media wont pay attention to that. They are too busy making money with Lebron as the villian.
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Mavs deserved, well more than the Heat.
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On June 15 2011 11:55 scaban84 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 11:23 NovaTheFeared wrote:
The Decision was ill-conceived self aggrandizement. It is quintessentially Lebron. There is actually an interesting story behind "The Decision". ESPN actually orchestrated the whole event. Lebron initially resisted until they told him that all the money made off the show would go to the Boys and Girls club. Even in interviews Lebron said he doesn't regret The Decision because he said he made over 2 million dollars for the Boys and Girls Club but the media wont pay attention to that. They are too busy making money with Lebron as the villian.
The timing was all off, like not even close. Of course Lebron doesn't regret the Decision, when has he shown any regret over anything that's supposedly important?
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On June 15 2011 11:55 scaban84 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 11:23 NovaTheFeared wrote:
The Decision was ill-conceived self aggrandizement. It is quintessentially Lebron. There is actually an interesting story behind "The Decision". ESPN actually orchestrated the whole event. Lebron initially resisted until they told him that all the money made off the show would go to the Boys and Girls club. Even in interviews Lebron said he doesn't regret The Decision because he said he made over 2 million dollars for the Boys and Girls Club but the media wont pay attention to that. They are too busy making money with Lebron as the villian.
That decision was actually the idea of Maverick Carter, Lebron's childhood friend and marketing manager or some shit, approached ESPN to air it. It wasn't ESPN's idea, they agreed to air it for ratings and revenue, everything else was in Lebron James camp control. Lebron even requested Jim Gray to interview him and they got him.
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On June 15 2011 10:31 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 10:10 Brees wrote:
I laugh everytime some one brings up the idea that the decision was even remotely Lebron's idea.
"yo guys I want to have a one hour special on TV about this and this is how its gonna go down"
lol delusional.
big names used this stunt as a source of money to be gained from lots of viewers watching this shit, when they give you the money to do it, its kinda hard to just be like nah i dont want free money. I suppose his nickname "King", his tattoo of "The Chosen One", and him taking 23 with the Cavs were none of his ideas too?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071118195327AASU9Uj
Charlotte Hornets - Jason Richardson
Cleveland Cavaliers - Lebron James
Dallas Mavericks - Trenton Hassell
Denver Nuggets - Marcus Camby
Indiana Pacers - Stephen Graham
Los Angeles Clippers - Ruben Patterson
Memphis Grizzlies - Casey Jacobsen
New York Knicks - Quentin Richardson
Philadephia 76ers - Louis Williams
Portland Trailblazers - Darius Miles
Sacramento Kings - Kevin Martin
There are 30 something teams in the nba, so that's like, 1/3 of them. Tons of people who admired Jordan wore 23 as a kid, through college, and in the nba. And Kobe switched to 24, better or worse?
I'm sure people have been gushing about Lebron's potential since he was a kid, so I'm not going to claim Lebron doesn't have a high opinion of himself.
But usually when athletes have nicknames, they're cool/impressive sounding ones like "The Human Highlight Reel", "Black Mamba", "The Matrix", "Superman", "Superman (soulja boy version)", and not ones like, "The Custodian".
And I'm not an expert at nba tattoos, but i'm sure there are some pretty self centered ones out there. "Chosen One" could be the worst, who knows, but it's kind of cherry picking.
Edit: from the web
![[image loading]](http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/125/809/RackMultipart.2396.0_display_image.jpg?1260935276) Amare Stoudemire's
The one example of Lebron's arrogance that I don't like, because it affects the game, is what in basketball they call a "heat check". Make a difficult shot. Think you have a hot hand. Try an even harder shot. Repeat until you start throwing up absurdly stupid shots way past the 3 point line while double covered and start airballing them.
Otherwise, if anything, I think people ironically wanted Lebron to have MORE on-court self-confidence in the finals.
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