EPTOn one hand, I think it's very bad-mannered of them, but at the same time, I feel that they shouldn't get all of that hate, and they may have been a bit bitter about losing as well.
(though that doesn't excuse their behavior, of course)
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Z3kk
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On one hand, I think it's very bad-mannered of them, but at the same time, I feel that they shouldn't get all of that hate, and they may have been a bit bitter about losing as well. (though that doesn't excuse their behavior, of course) | ||
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SkyTheUnknown
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LeBroom
Germany67 Posts
Heat: Galactic Empire The world want's the Mavs to win it all! All these childish and ignorant Jokes and the Party at the Start of the Season can't be forgiven! I'm begging for a Win tonight, making fun of Miami until the End of the Lockout would be sooo sweet. And Dirk has deserved this ring more than any other player is this League! | ||
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Z3kk
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RowdierBob
Australia13006 Posts
Butt heads, possible lockout. There are some good writeups about the new CBA, but it essentially boils down to the above. | ||
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RowdierBob
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citi.zen
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On June 12 2011 15:54 RowdierBob wrote: BTW, what does everyone think about a hard cap? As someone who supports a relatively insignificant, small market team (Milwaukee) I think it would be great for the game to spread the talent around a bit more. Do you think it will happen? Some teams have a stronger/larger fan-base, and I feel they should be able to use it to attract better players. Kobe in LA makes more people happy than Kobe in Toronto - it's just a fact of life. I do like the current soft cap though. It helps small teams a bit by redistributing luxury tax moneys to them, which seems to have worked fairly well. Some smaller cap teams were able to hold their own (SA, most notably) while big market teams do not automatically "have it made" - management still matters a great deal (welcome back, Isiah!). I would not want to see much change in this area... | ||
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larrysbird
375 Posts
On June 12 2011 14:13 Z3kk wrote: Here's a video showing LBJ and Wade doing the joking around about Dirk's fever and illness. You guys can judge for yourselves, I suppose. Aw, I tried to get it to link to a time, but it didn't work...it starts slightly after the 1 minute mark. Well media wanting some attention again. They're trying to make these guys look bad. I thought they're just trying to have some fun and media just blow it anyway. Of course Dirk would get insulted by it when they media telling him that way. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 12 2011 15:53 RowdierBob wrote: NBA + owners want to reduce costs, players want to keep their golden goose. Butt heads, possible lockout. There are some good writeups about the new CBA, but it essentially boils down to the above. Keep in mind there is no golden goose in the NBA. Maybe the NFL, but not the NBA. A lot of franchises aren't making money and some just float by. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 12 2011 08:20 Ace wrote: Douche bags get douche bag treatment. Even if they don't respect him? You're telling me it didn't feel extra good when Bird smacked down all those guys who called him just a slow cracker?The media and fans as usual are just incredibly sickening. Wade and Lebron are joking around about Dirk, and even if they dont respect him - who cares? When players are on the court much, much worse things are said that people don't know about. Then you've got people, even in this very thread that talk about Lebron's personal life. Bringing up subjects like his mom having sex with a former teammate, and now his girlfriend having sex with Rashard Lewis. Not to mention all the other personal attacks he's taken over the years that have nothing to do with basketball. But people get upset over that? The bias and hate for Miami is unreal. If you want to be completely sterile about the games that's fine, but it's a lot more fun when there's something more on the line whether it's between sAviOr and FBH, the Bad Boys and MJ, and Mavs and Heat. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
Beating the demons/showing your critics might have mattered in earlier games. Nobody (players) cares anymore about that, the only thing left is a pure, naked desire to win at all costs. Does anyone think Dirk really cares about beating the Heat specifically now, or anything other than the fact that he's one win away from winning everything? It doesn't matter if Dirk's inviting himself for an even more crushing loss, it doesn't matter if Lebron is risking his pride and reputation as a basketball player, they have to be all in at this point. (Which is why the Lakers elimination vs Dallas showed how pathetic they were). | ||
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Tonkerchen
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On June 12 2011 19:52 Jibba wrote: Douche bags get douche bag treatment. Even if they don't respect him? You're telling me it didn't feel extra good when Bird smacked down all those guys who called him just a slow cracker? If you want to be completely sterile about the games that's fine, but it's a lot more fun when there's something more on the line whether it's between sAviOr and FBH, the Bad Boys and MJ, and Mavs and Heat. Someone calling you a slow cracker is on a whole different level than someone teasing you for being sick. The point is, as Dirk and Wade themselves attested to that the "joke" wasn't even a big deal. It's media and fans making it into something it isn't. | ||
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KiNGxXx
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Malinor
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funnybananaman
United States830 Posts
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ilikejokes
United States217 Posts
On June 13 2011 06:41 Ace wrote: Someone calling you a slow cracker is on a whole different level than someone teasing you for being sick. The point is, as Dirk and Wade themselves attested to that the "joke" wasn't even a big deal. It's media and fans making it into something it isn't. Most people are just saying it was childish (including Dirk), and it was. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13006 Posts
On June 12 2011 19:44 Jibba wrote: Keep in mind there is no golden goose in the NBA. Maybe the NFL, but not the NBA. A lot of franchises aren't making money and some just float by. The players do get a pretty good deal with the current CBA though... And I think that's part of the issue--the NBA and owners don't think there's enough money to continue with the current pay conditions. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13006 Posts
On June 12 2011 17:12 citi.zen wrote: Some teams have a stronger/larger fan-base, and I feel they should be able to use it to attract better players. Kobe in LA makes more people happy than Kobe in Toronto - it's just a fact of life. I do like the current soft cap though. It helps small teams a bit by redistributing luxury tax moneys to them, which seems to have worked fairly well. Some smaller cap teams were able to hold their own (SA, most notably) while big market teams do not automatically "have it made" - management still matters a great deal (welcome back, Isiah!). I would not want to see much change in this area... But the only way small cap teams can compete is through the draft. SA did through a combination of luck in the draft (Duncan) combined with asute management in being able to identify quality international talent (Parker+Ginobli). Small market teams are never in contention for the big free agency signings, which means they have to spend years and wasted seasons tanking to get high draft picks (which in themselves don't turn out most of the time). I mean, going back 10 years, it's always the large market teams who have the edge: 00-- LA beats Indiana 01--LA beats Philly 02--LA beats NJ 03--SA beats NJ 04--Det beats LA 05--SA beats Detroit 06--Heat beat Dallas 07--SA beat Cleveland 08--Bos beat LA 09--LA beat Orl 10--LA beat Bos That's what... 6 small market teams in the Finals in 10 years. And only SA actually won. And that's also not to mention the dominance of larger market teams from the 80s through the 90s. I just think it's crappy that the NBA basically revolves around a few large market super-teams these days and the others are left to fight for the scraps (i.e draft picks of low Playoff seeds). Does anyone think the Spurs will compete at a high level once Duncan/Parker/Ginobli move or aren't able to compete at a high level due to age? Maybe, but my guess is they will be back to NBA purgatory hoping to strike gold with another Duncan draft. And even next year (if it happens), what small market teams have realistic title hopes? OKC (who got into their position picking up Durant and Westbrook through years of tanking), maybe Memphis? I can't even think of one out East (maybe Orlando, but you'd have to be real optimistic there...). The current NBA structure too heavily favours the larger market teams. The hard cap would go a long way to helping solve this IMO. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On June 13 2011 08:27 ilikejokes wrote: Most people are just saying it was childish (including Dirk), and it was. no, most people are throwing a fit and going out of the way to call lebron and wade douche bags | ||
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