EPTNBA Playoffs (2010-2011) - Page 182
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Spicy Pepper
United States632 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
I'm not calling for Spoelstra's head or anything just wondering how other people feel. Thoughts? Edit: Meant 4-0 series not 4-1. | ||
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shabinka
United States469 Posts
On June 08 2011 13:26 Hrrrrm wrote: So seeing another horrible final minutes by Miami offensively and defensively. How much or little is Spoelstra to blame? This could've easily been a 4-1 series for Miami if they had played 10 more minutes like they had played the rest of their games. Something tells me that Riley or Jackson coaching this team wouldn't of let that happen. I'm not calling for Spoelstra's head or anything just wondering how other people feel. Thoughts? A 4-1 series in 4 games? Interesting... | ||
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
On June 08 2011 13:19 Z3kk wrote: What exactly does the phrase "children of the poor" mean? Sounded sort of funny, and I can tell essentially what you mean, but I've never seen that idiomatic phrase before. He means Little Sisters of the Poor. ie, beating up little nuns. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Sisters_of_the_Poor Infamously, last college football season, Ohio State's president said that teams like Boise State and TCU got their records by beating terrible teams while Big Ten schools "do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor" - insinuating that those teams weren't as good as their records looked. Then TCU beat the Big Ten champions, Wisconsin, in a hard-fought Rose Bowl game. (edit - just to clarify, that's not where the phrase came from, just a funny story) | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 08 2011 13:19 Z3kk wrote: What exactly does the phrase "children of the poor" mean? Sounded sort of funny, and I can tell essentially what you mean, but I've never seen that idiomatic phrase before. On June 08 2011 13:33 Signet wrote: He means Little Sisters of the Poor. ie, beating up little nuns. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Sisters_of_the_Poor Infamously, last college football season, Ohio State's president said that teams like Boise State and TCU got their records by beating terrible teams while Big Ten schools "do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor" - insinuating that those teams weren't as good as their records looked. Then TCU beat the Big Ten champions, Wisconsin, in a hard-fought Rose Bowl game. (edit - just to clarify, that's not where the phrase came from, just a funny story) Yar | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
Errr my bad was steamin over the collapse meant, 4-0. Edit: Oh god watching the press conference ESPN popped up the graphics I was waiting for. Heat 1-4 FG with 24 seconds left in the game to tie or take the lead. | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On June 08 2011 13:26 Hrrrrm wrote: So seeing another horrible final minutes by Miami offensively and defensively. How much or little is Spoelstra to blame? This could've easily been a 4-0 series for Miami if they had played 10 more minutes like they had played the rest of their games. Something tells me that Riley or Jackson coaching this team wouldn't of let that happen. I'm not calling for Spoelstra's head or anything just wondering how other people feel. Thoughts? Edit: Meant 4-0 series not 4-1. Not on Spoelstra as he put them in position to win. Riley and Jackson are good but they couldn't have stopped it from happening. Listen, this happens ALL THE TIME in the NBA. Finals, regular season, other rounds. People are shocked but teams coming back to win a game isn't really a shock. | ||
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ketomai
United States2789 Posts
Mavs squeaked out the win but I don't think they can expect to win playing like this for long. Need Dirk to get over his fever and come back. He's been shooting much more poorly this series than the last two with shots that he normally makes. Also need JJ Barea to make layups after he penetrates because I don't feel comfortable relying on 3's from stevenson/kidd all the time. | ||
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Spicy Pepper
United States632 Posts
Game 2, during the comeback, I'm not sure who made the call, but they switched to giving Jet the ball with Tyson and Dirk double screening on like 5 or 6 possession at the end. Pretty much scored on every possession, except one I think. Spo put Bosh on Dirk on that final possession, and didn't have Anthony in the game, so he messed up that one, but I think drew up a possession where Chalmers got a wide open 3, but maybe we should give Jet credit for going brain dead on that play. Game 3 though, Spo did correct that and put Haslem on Dirk. Bosh got that jumper at the end. This game, Carlisle switches to a zone defense for the first in the 4th, bringing them back in the game, and then when Spoelstra calls a timeout to adjust to the zone, Carlisle stops running the zone, so basically Miami wastes a timeout and adjustment. Also, I think in the 4th quarter, Carlisle tends to play Kidd, Jet, Marion, Dirk & Chandler, which is their best lineup, even though tonight Stevenson got some burn tonight. So that has a bit to do with it. There are better coaches than Spoelstra, but he's the reason the Heat play that suffocating defense. Also, let's remember the Heat had those awesome 4th quarters in the Chicago series. These games have been so close, I guess any extra advantage could've been the difference, but Lebron really seemed passive offensively tonight, I'd put it on him before anyone else from the Heat tonight. | ||
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LeBroom
Germany67 Posts
On June 08 2011 13:03 SkyTheUnknown wrote: Wade is scoring well, but it's nothing close to Nowitzkis performance. Wade has 2 other top players around him to rely on. Nowitzki has no one. Dirk not becoming MVP would be a major upset no matter who wins the finals. Problem is: Finals MVP is ALWAYS given to a Champion. Even if Dirk Scores 50ppg in the rest of the series. Just hope DAL wins it: Then it's no question whos gonna get it  Wade and Lebron have been the best 2 players in the NBA since 08-09, Winning-Team-Joiners PLS GTFO | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Secondly I am not a Miami Heat fan or a fan of any time. So you can cut the bs On June 08 2011 14:13 Spicy Pepper wrote: Spoelstra is a good coach, but I think Carlisle is better. Game 2, during the comeback, I'm not sure who made the call, but they switched to giving Jet the ball with Tyson and Dirk double screening on like 5 or 6 possession at the end. Pretty much scored on every possession, except one I think. Spo put Bosh on Dirk on that final possession, and didn't have Anthony in the game, so he messed up that one, but I think drew up a possession where Chalmers got a wide open 3, but maybe we should give Jet credit for going brain dead on that play. Game 3 though, Spo did correct that and put Haslem on Dirk. Bosh got that jumper at the end. This game, Carlisle switches to a zone defense for the first in the 4th, bringing them back in the game, and then when Spoelstra calls a timeout to adjust to the zone, Carlisle stops running the zone, so basically Miami wastes a timeout and adjustment. Also, I think in the 4th quarter, Carlisle tends to play Kidd, Jet, Marion, Dirk & Chandler, which is their best lineup, even though tonight Stevenson got some burn tonight. So that has a bit to do with it. There are better coaches than Spoelstra, but he's the reason the Heat play that suffocating defense. Also, let's remember the Heat had those awesome 4th quarters in the Chicago series. These games have been so close, I guess any extra advantage could've been the difference, but Lebron really seemed passive offensively tonight, I'd put it on him before anyone else from the Heat tonight. Carlisle has been good for so long but he never gets credit. People forget how many times he came close with Indiana and I think Detroit? The media only cares about 4 or 5 coaches at once and sweeps everyone else under the rug. | ||
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Spicy Pepper
United States632 Posts
One thing I personally don't like about Spo is the way he addressed the team this year. I admit this is nitpicking the guy, but it always felt like some corny high school coach speech pregame, postgame or in his press conferences. I'm not saying he needs to be inspiring like Doc Rivers, but I would've preferred a more no nonsense and professional approach like Popovich who just tell it how it is, and tell guys to go do it. If it works for them, good for them, but as a basketball fan, it irked me to see that the Heat had been so defensive about the media's questions. I feel like the personality of teams and players tend to take after the coach. This has nothing to do with his X's and O's, but his speeches come off really lame to me. They have been better lately, but it was annoying earlier this season. If you look at Dallas, this whole playoffs, their guys are just focused. They address their mistakes to the media, take a straightforward approach to the media, and just go about their business. Granted the Heat have much more scrutiny, but I think Chris Webber summed up their mentality best earlier this year. | ||
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ilikejokes
United States217 Posts
Two things I'm loving about tonight's game: 1. From now on when people mention "the Flu Game" they'll have to clarify if they meant MJ or Nowitzki, and 2. From now on when people try to suggest that LeBron is better than Jordan I can point to this game and laugh at them | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
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duncan.mc
United States231 Posts
On June 08 2011 14:16 LeBroom wrote: Problem is: Finals MVP is ALWAYS given to a Champion. Even if Dirk Scores 50ppg in the rest of the series. Just hope DAL wins it: Then it's no question whos gonna get it Winning-Team-Joiners PLS GTFO Close, Jerry West in 68-69 series wins finals MVP on the losing LA Lakers. It's not like it refutes your argument though, just thought you'd like to hear that tidbit. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Spo's a good coach. Great defensive. Runs simple offense and can't get his stars to consistently buy into complex stuff. He's got more years to get to that level of top tier coaches though. | ||
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Slaughter
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