EPTNBA Playoffs (2010-2011) - Page 172
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Zorkmid
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
On June 06 2011 13:12 Disregard wrote: Some info on Nowitzki's special drill routines, never heard of it or seen it. http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/05/dirk-nowitzkis-unique-shooting-drills/ [...] Interesting, explains why he's able to hit shots from so many awkward angles and body positioning. On June 06 2011 14:24 cLutZ wrote: Disagree with regards to Chicago, agree with regards to this series. Chicago should have been about even with Miami considering it had fewer penetrating players but much better rebounders. However, 1 game is not a series. Yes, this is the first game this series Miami has had more fouls called on them than Dallas. Games 1 and 2 were pretty even in terms of that. So far this looks like the exception not the rule. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
Imbalance : referees :: TL moderating LR : _______ My conclusion, this talking about the referees is a lot like teamliquid's beta sc2 before the mods got sick of it and started purging people. Yes, there is some justification, but it's drowned up by oceans of ... less justified talk. David Stern was right, if this forum talk was representative of what players were saying, the nba would be horrible to watch. | ||
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matko5
Croatia385 Posts
LeBron, time for a 30+ game. Give it to me baby, give it to me! | ||
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13427 Posts
Really hoping Dallas can take the next 2 or things will be pretty grim for them. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On June 06 2011 18:33 MilesTeg wrote: Miami is such a horrible team. Iso after iso, a few lucky shots and some great selling to the refs... Miami has gotten the worse side of the ref calls all series and Dirk is as big a flopper as anyone in the league. The Miami lead is definitely not because of the refs. | ||
XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
On June 06 2011 18:33 MilesTeg wrote: Miami is such a horrible team. Iso after iso, a few lucky shots and some great selling to the refs... It's these kinds of outlandish statements made with no factual support that irk the regulars in this thread. Please try to at least back up your arguments somehow. | ||
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 06 2011 22:28 TwoToneTerran wrote: Miami has gotten the worse side of the ref calls all series and Dirk is as big a flopper as anyone in the league. The Miami lead is definitely not because of the refs. I have to completely agree. Shame on Dallas for losing last night. Granted, the last possession was something Dirk makes fairly often but he still should've gotten something better than that, and the possession before that was terrible. Pleasantly surprised by their defense though, it's a better series than I thought it would be. While they are playing that way, I'm still convinced Miami would be in better hands with Lebron playing point-forward and Wade going pure SG instead of the other way around. It's easy to disagree when Wade is making shot after shot like that but Lebron is still a better passer/organizer/ballhandler and has better vision than Wade. Plus Wade moves better without the ball. If they ran real offensive sets (and they might blow everyone out if they did), Lebron should facilitate. EDIT: I should clarify, I don't mean he should be the main star of the team. I don't really care about that story line the reporters are writing up right now. I just mean strictly as the 1 position is concerned. | ||
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ilikejokes
United States217 Posts
The fact is the complaints about the referees in this game (series?) are getting a little ridiculous. They've been consistently not calling the minor contact that Wade and James tend to get on drives, but the Mavs have also been doing a really, really good job of not taking the bait in those situations. Most of the fouls Miami committed against the Mavs weren't shooting fouls, but they got in the bonus fairly quickly which is how Dallas would up shooting so many FT's even though they weren't attacking the basket as much. The Heat usually DO abuse the fouling system, it's just the refs this series so far haven't been letting them do it. Props to the refs. Dirk has been an absolute monster this series but he needs to get some help (or at the very least the Mavs in general need to stop turning the ball over) or that win in game 2 will wind up the exception rather than the rule. Wade was impressive tonight, it seems like he's over whatever was bothering him at the end of the Chicago series/beginning of this one. I'm pretty disappointed in some of the 3-point looks that Wade and James are getting because honestly those aren't looks you should be getting in the NBA finals (Wade pull up 3, basically a set shot, at the top of the 3 point line? Kidd, you really gave that to him?). Miami actually didn't do very much "great selling" to the refs--the refs weren't buying it this game, so that's kind of a silly accusation. @Ace what do you mean "under-the-basket" fouls? Do you just mean fouls in general that occur underneath the basket, like going over the back or something? | ||
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matko5
Croatia385 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
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On June 07 2011 04:08 ilikejokes wrote: I'm surprised nobody, with all this talk of the refereeing, mentioned the missed backcourt violation on Chalmers's 3 to end the first quarter. I definitely don't hold that one against the refs because it was tough to tell (plus that's a thoroughly unexciting way to end the quarter) but in a game decided by a 2 point margin that decided the game as much as any other call or missed call. The fact is the complaints about the referees in this game (series?) are getting a little ridiculous. They've been consistently not calling the minor contact that Wade and James tend to get on drives, but the Mavs have also been doing a really, really good job of not taking the bait in those situations. Most of the fouls Miami committed against the Mavs weren't shooting fouls, but they got in the bonus fairly quickly which is how Dallas would up shooting so many FT's even though they weren't attacking the basket as much. The Heat usually DO abuse the fouling system, it's just the refs this series so far haven't been letting them do it. Props to the refs. Dirk has been an absolute monster this series but he needs to get some help (or at the very least the Mavs in general need to stop turning the ball over) or that win in game 2 will wind up the exception rather than the rule. Wade was impressive tonight, it seems like he's over whatever was bothering him at the end of the Chicago series/beginning of this one. I'm pretty disappointed in some of the 3-point looks that Wade and James are getting because honestly those aren't looks you should be getting in the NBA finals (Wade pull up 3, basically a set shot, at the top of the 3 point line? Kidd, you really gave that to him?). Miami actually didn't do very much "great selling" to the refs--the refs weren't buying it this game, so that's kind of a silly accusation. @Ace what do you mean "under-the-basket" fouls? Do you just mean fouls in general that occur underneath the basket, like going over the back or something? Stop reading yahoo.com for your sports. Chalmers let it loose way before the buzzer even rang. It's not that the refs are buying it, it's just the ref's are missing it. There were so many calls other than fouls that they never called. | ||
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ilikejokes
United States217 Posts
On June 07 2011 04:52 ShoCkeyy wrote: Stop reading yahoo.com for your sports. Chalmers let it loose way before the buzzer even rang. It's not that the refs are buying it, it's just the ref's are missing it. There were so many calls other than fouls that they never called. Hi I watched the game and I said "backcourt violation" not "he shot it after the buzzer." | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Also you can't blame Jason Kidd for that shot. Dwyane Wade isn't a deadly 3 point shooter and he was killing the Mavs inside all night. He played it pretty well and Wade hit a shot he normally doesn't. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
It's better than double teaming Wade like the Mavs did at the end of game 3. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
The real answer is Corey Brewer but they just won't play him. | ||
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
"4. In 12 quarters, Mavs have won 5, Heat 4, with 3 ties." http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2011/news/story?page=5-on-5-110606 If that's accurate, and I see no reason why it wouldn't be, then this series is about as close as you can get and the Mavs are actually doing quite well considering that no one on DAL other than Dirk has stepped up at any point in the series. Credit goes to MIA's defense, but I can't get away from my impression while watching the games that the Mavs are missing a lot of shots they usually make. | ||
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
On June 07 2011 07:33 igotmyown wrote: So what's wrong with barea on wade on the perimeter? You give up Wade posting up for a long 2, but unlike most players Barea's quick enough to keep in front of Wade and prevent him from getting inside or drawing fouls. It's better than double teaming Wade like the Mavs did at the end of game 3. Wade actually has something of a post game that he can use to abuse smaller, weaker players. Even when being defended by Kidd, who is arguably one of the best (if not the best) guards in the league at defending the post, Wade ISO'd himself on the block and just powered past to get an easy bucket. DAL would end up having to double Wade anyway. | ||
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