EPTNBA 2010-2011 Season - Page 147
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SK.Testie
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altec1011
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On April 04 2011 04:04 SK.Testie wrote: You're going to need to improve your posting to stay around here. Jus' sayin... I was literally held as an outcast for even trying to claim Rose was a better player than Rondo... and eventually got perm. banned. Do you think that justifies the Mods for perm. banning me? | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
I wondered about that. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
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iDoMiNaTe2.0
288 Posts
On April 04 2011 04:02 altec1011 wrote: so it's been about 4 months since I was banned from Teamliquid after trying to defend Rose as the better player between him and Rondo (Ridiculous isnt it) So where are you doubters now? Some clown named "Ace" kept trying to make a case for Derrick Rose being overrated... LOL How foolish do you guys look now with D-Rose being the inevitable MVP and the Bull's being the #1 seed in the East? I repeat, 4 months ago, I tried to debate whether he was the best PG in NBA, and morons like Ace tried to claim that even RONDO was a better player!!! smh Pretty sure this is why you got banned | ||
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iDoMiNaTe2.0
288 Posts
On April 04 2011 04:09 Holcan wrote: lets wait for rose to average a triple double in a 7 game playoff series like Rondo already did before you start claiming he is better than a more prestigous player. Both are really good one is a better scorer other is a better passer | ||
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altec1011
92 Posts
On April 04 2011 04:09 Holcan wrote: lets wait for rose to average a triple double in a 7 game playoff series like Rondo already did before you start claiming he is better than a more prestigous player. Stats don't always mean you're the better player. Rondo is surrounded by veterans and talent, and defenders guard him 5 feet away because they know he's a terrible shooter. I guess Kevin Love is a better player than guys like Bynum and Horford because his stats are better right? And are you actually arguing that Rondo's triple-double avg. in a playoff series sets him apart from Rose? Does it actually show that Rondo is a better player if he get's rebounds as a 6'1 PG while Rose is unquestionably more athletic? Does having a triple double with 11+ apg while barely managing 10 ppg really that better from a score-first PG who avgs 25 ppg and 8apg? I think Rondo is out of the question at this point in deciding who is the better player. I know a lot of ya'll would say Dwill/CP3 is still better even though injuries had slowed them down this season... but Rondo? Really? You'd have to be a die-hard Celtic homer to think that. | ||
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altec1011
92 Posts
On April 04 2011 04:16 iDoMiNaTe2.0 wrote: Both are really good one is a better scorer other is a better passer I would argue that Rose's passing abilities are just as good as Rondo's. He's just not perceived as a good passer because he's a score-first point guard, but he's showcased many games where he can be just as good of a playmaker with LESS talent on his team. Rondo is a better defender than Rose though, he's got a longer wingspan and big hands. I'm going to use the excuse of immaturity for Rose's shortcomings on Defense and shot choices... I think those 2 will improve with experience and maturity in the NBA... this is only Rose's third year after all. | ||
XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
On April 04 2011 04:07 altec1011 wrote: Jus' sayin... I was literally held as an outcast for even trying to claim Rose was a better player than Rondo... and eventually got perm. banned. Do you think that justifies the Mods for perm. banning me? You still haven't learned. You didn't get banned for having an opinion (few do), it was the manner in which you argued/expressed it. It's not just about what you say, but how you say it as well. | ||
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iDoMiNaTe2.0
288 Posts
On April 04 2011 04:28 altec1011 wrote: I would argue that Rose's passing abilities are just as good as Rondo's. He's just not perceived as a good passer because he's a score-first point guard, but he's showcased many games where he can be just as good of a playmaker with LESS talent on his team. Rondo is a better defender than Rose though, he's got a longer wingspan and big hands. I'm going to use the excuse of immaturity for Rose's shortcomings on Defense and shot choices... I think those 2 will improve with experience and maturity in the NBA... this is only Rose's third year after all. Good post you came out a lil bit 2 hard in your 1st post back. Personally I think D Rose is the MVP this year without a doubt IMO. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On April 04 2011 04:07 altec1011 wrote: Jus' sayin... I was literally held as an outcast for even trying to claim Rose was a better player than Rondo... and eventually got perm. banned. Do you think that justifies the Mods for perm. banning me? Just calling people clowns? Doesn't sound like you learned much. Why should everyone else have to put up with someone who craps up the thread? | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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testpat
United States565 Posts
On April 04 2011 04:09 Holcan wrote: lets wait for rose to average a triple double in a 7 game playoff series like Rondo already did before you start claiming he is better than a more prestigous player. When did Rondo triple double a 7 game playoff series? | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
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testpat
United States565 Posts
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/rondora01/gamelog/2009/#stats_playoffs | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On April 04 2011 07:22 Holcan wrote: they didnt play the bulls last year, those are two years ago, rondo has only played rose once in his career. If you want to get technical he averaged 16/11/9.2 with 2.7 steals, so not technically a triple double, but 5 rebounds off :p. Still pretty decent numbers to throw down in the playoffs. He averaged that, and somehow the much worse bulls team would have won the series had Rondo been correctly called for a flagrant against brad miller. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On April 04 2011 08:49 cLutZ wrote: He averaged that, and somehow the much worse bulls team would have won the series had Rondo been correctly called for a flagrant against brad miller. clearly you dont remember that bulls team, it was pretty good, at least on par with a garnett less celtic team, oh wait i forgot the bulls all suck except for drose, thats why he is MVP, Noah definitely doesnt have any accomplishments himself ! | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On April 04 2011 08:54 Holcan wrote: clearly you dont remember that bulls team, it was pretty good, at least on par with a garnett less celtic team, oh wait i forgot the bulls all suck except for drose, thats why he is MVP, Noah definitely doesnt have any accomplishments himself ! Ben Gordon! Kirk Heinrich! Vinny Del Negro! 41-41! They were a bad team, they were .500 in the East which that year translated into about 33 wins in the West. I will agree with you about one thing though: that Celtics team was hurting, and I'll say the reason is that Paul Pierce is way overrated. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
lets look at 1-5 and how they matched up rose - rondo = even ben gordon/kirk hinrich - allen/house = even john salmons - pierce = boston advantage tyrus thomas - big baby = chicago advantage (at least athletically) noah - perkins - chicago advantage seems like a great matchup to me, mustve been why it had the most overtimes ever for a playoff series and went to 7 games. | ||
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