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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13423 Posts
April 01 2011 12:47 GMT
#2901
I'd say AND1 but I haven't see the Globetrotters play in ages.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
April 01 2011 17:04 GMT
#2902
Globetrotters would probably win since they have played some close games vs championship college teams. And if I remember right most of their players have had some college experience.

Whereas AND1 has to create their own team from street players every year and I think the only real talent in the NBA has been Rafer Alston? And I figure no traveling would affect AND1 players more.
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 17:10:50
April 01 2011 17:09 GMT
#2903
On December 26 2010 10:25 seanisgrand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2010 10:14 Ace wrote:
The Lakers don't sleepwalk all the time. They actually play very good even against bad teams most of the time. They've just looked way below their usual regular season standards so far and it showed today. With the cake schedule they've had usually no one would say much. But when Dallas and San Antonio have played much tougher schedules and have better records then it's time to at least acknowledge LA can do better. First time in the Pau-Kobe dynasty LA has actually had LEGIT title competition in the West.


Playing very good against bad teams is an awfully big oxymoron don't you think? I don't think those games are very indicative of their play at all. Also, to the point about "usual regular season standards", the Lakers have never had very spectacular regular seasons during their title runs in the Phil era. Other than a couple 60 win seasons, they are usually mid 50's in win totals and have had some truly awful stretches almost every single year. They started very hot last year and still only won 57 games. I've watched almost every single LA game over the past 4 years and this is nothing new for this current gen Lakers team just like it wasn't anything new for the Shaq/Kobe teams. They turn it up in the playoffs. That;s how it is, even if it's frustrating.

As for their west competition, the season is far too young to say what kind of competition they have in the west. I'll wait to see them play against Dallas and San Antonio before I pass judgment. I like their chances, given that SA has folded like a deck of cards to LA in the playoffs save for one year, and Dallas is always _allas in the playoffs.


Looking like this is going to be the case again this year. Lakers have turned it back up and are looking very scary with the playoffs coming up.
This is well below quality expected of a post in any forum. -Empyrean
testpat
Profile Joined November 2003
United States565 Posts
April 01 2011 17:53 GMT
#2904
On December 26 2010 10:25 seanisgrand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2010 10:14 Ace wrote:
The Lakers don't sleepwalk all the time. They actually play very good even against bad teams most of the time. They've just looked way below their usual regular season standards so far and it showed today. With the cake schedule they've had usually no one would say much. But when Dallas and San Antonio have played much tougher schedules and have better records then it's time to at least acknowledge LA can do better. First time in the Pau-Kobe dynasty LA has actually had LEGIT title competition in the West.


Playing very good against bad teams is an awfully big oxymoron don't you think? I don't think those games are very indicative of their play at all. Also, to the point about "usual regular season standards", the Lakers have never had very spectacular regular seasons during their title runs in the Phil era. Other than a couple 60 win seasons, they are usually mid 50's in win totals and have had some truly awful stretches almost every single year. They started very hot last year and still only won 57 games. I've watched almost every single LA game over the past 4 years and this is nothing new for this current gen Lakers team just like it wasn't anything new for the Shaq/Kobe teams. They turn it up in the playoffs. That;s how it is, even if it's frustrating.

As for their west competition, the season is far too young to say what kind of competition they have in the west. I'll wait to see them play against Dallas and San Antonio before I pass judgment. I like their chances, given that SA has folded like a deck of cards to LA in the playoffs save for one year, and Dallas is always _allas in the playoffs.


Its easy to forget some seasons because Lakers seem to take it easy during the regular season, but they have put together some great records during the Phil era.
Lakers '99 season 15 loss ranks 5th(t) best all time record,
Lakers '08 season 17 loss ranks 14th(t) best all time record.
Suppose I don't know taste of common salt & I want to know it.
BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 19:22:08
April 01 2011 19:18 GMT
#2905
On April 02 2011 02:04 Ack1027 wrote:
Globetrotters would probably win since they have played some close games vs championship college teams. And if I remember right most of their players have had some college experience.

Whereas AND1 has to create their own team from street players every year and I think the only real talent in the NBA has been Rafer Alston? And I figure no traveling would affect AND1 players more.



Ya rafer was the only one, but I have a feeling the newer generation of streetballers might be better than rafer now at least athletically even though he had crazy handles. I also think the globetrotters are bigger since some of them played in the NBA. Come to think of it most of the top streetballers could probably fair pretty well vs top college prospects, too bad there isn't and1 vs NCAA top teams, that would be interesting.
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 02 2011 00:42 GMT
#2906
On April 02 2011 02:53 testpat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2010 10:25 seanisgrand wrote:
On December 26 2010 10:14 Ace wrote:
The Lakers don't sleepwalk all the time. They actually play very good even against bad teams most of the time. They've just looked way below their usual regular season standards so far and it showed today. With the cake schedule they've had usually no one would say much. But when Dallas and San Antonio have played much tougher schedules and have better records then it's time to at least acknowledge LA can do better. First time in the Pau-Kobe dynasty LA has actually had LEGIT title competition in the West.


Playing very good against bad teams is an awfully big oxymoron don't you think? I don't think those games are very indicative of their play at all. Also, to the point about "usual regular season standards", the Lakers have never had very spectacular regular seasons during their title runs in the Phil era. Other than a couple 60 win seasons, they are usually mid 50's in win totals and have had some truly awful stretches almost every single year. They started very hot last year and still only won 57 games. I've watched almost every single LA game over the past 4 years and this is nothing new for this current gen Lakers team just like it wasn't anything new for the Shaq/Kobe teams. They turn it up in the playoffs. That;s how it is, even if it's frustrating.

As for their west competition, the season is far too young to say what kind of competition they have in the west. I'll wait to see them play against Dallas and San Antonio before I pass judgment. I like their chances, given that SA has folded like a deck of cards to LA in the playoffs save for one year, and Dallas is always _allas in the playoffs.


Its easy to forget some seasons because Lakers seem to take it easy during the regular season, but they have put together some great records during the Phil era.
Lakers '99 season 15 loss ranks 5th(t) best all time record,
Lakers '08 season 17 loss ranks 14th(t) best all time record.


The Lakers under the Kobe/Pau Regime have not won a series where they didn't have homecourt, so it could be quite a differncemaker this year
Freeeeeeedom
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 08:15:35
April 02 2011 08:14 GMT
#2907
On April 02 2011 09:42 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 02:53 testpat wrote:
On December 26 2010 10:25 seanisgrand wrote:
On December 26 2010 10:14 Ace wrote:
The Lakers don't sleepwalk all the time. They actually play very good even against bad teams most of the time. They've just looked way below their usual regular season standards so far and it showed today. With the cake schedule they've had usually no one would say much. But when Dallas and San Antonio have played much tougher schedules and have better records then it's time to at least acknowledge LA can do better. First time in the Pau-Kobe dynasty LA has actually had LEGIT title competition in the West.


Playing very good against bad teams is an awfully big oxymoron don't you think? I don't think those games are very indicative of their play at all. Also, to the point about "usual regular season standards", the Lakers have never had very spectacular regular seasons during their title runs in the Phil era. Other than a couple 60 win seasons, they are usually mid 50's in win totals and have had some truly awful stretches almost every single year. They started very hot last year and still only won 57 games. I've watched almost every single LA game over the past 4 years and this is nothing new for this current gen Lakers team just like it wasn't anything new for the Shaq/Kobe teams. They turn it up in the playoffs. That;s how it is, even if it's frustrating.

As for their west competition, the season is far too young to say what kind of competition they have in the west. I'll wait to see them play against Dallas and San Antonio before I pass judgment. I like their chances, given that SA has folded like a deck of cards to LA in the playoffs save for one year, and Dallas is always _allas in the playoffs.


Its easy to forget some seasons because Lakers seem to take it easy during the regular season, but they have put together some great records during the Phil era.
Lakers '99 season 15 loss ranks 5th(t) best all time record,
Lakers '08 season 17 loss ranks 14th(t) best all time record.


The Lakers under the Kobe/Pau Regime have not won a series where they didn't have homecourt, so it could be quite a differncemaker this year


Uhm, that is because they have only lost one playoff series since the Gasol trade and that was to the Celtics in the Finals the year Pau got traded...and they definitely did not deserve to win that series...

I really don't think homecourt plays much a difference either way to a 2-time championship team(specially with Kobe who always says it doesn't matter one bit)...

Oh, and once the Finals come, I think most people agree the 2-3-2 format favors the non-homecourt because of those middle 3 games..
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 02 2011 17:10 GMT
#2908
On April 02 2011 17:14 MassHysteria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 09:42 cLutZ wrote:
On April 02 2011 02:53 testpat wrote:
On December 26 2010 10:25 seanisgrand wrote:
On December 26 2010 10:14 Ace wrote:
The Lakers don't sleepwalk all the time. They actually play very good even against bad teams most of the time. They've just looked way below their usual regular season standards so far and it showed today. With the cake schedule they've had usually no one would say much. But when Dallas and San Antonio have played much tougher schedules and have better records then it's time to at least acknowledge LA can do better. First time in the Pau-Kobe dynasty LA has actually had LEGIT title competition in the West.


Playing very good against bad teams is an awfully big oxymoron don't you think? I don't think those games are very indicative of their play at all. Also, to the point about "usual regular season standards", the Lakers have never had very spectacular regular seasons during their title runs in the Phil era. Other than a couple 60 win seasons, they are usually mid 50's in win totals and have had some truly awful stretches almost every single year. They started very hot last year and still only won 57 games. I've watched almost every single LA game over the past 4 years and this is nothing new for this current gen Lakers team just like it wasn't anything new for the Shaq/Kobe teams. They turn it up in the playoffs. That;s how it is, even if it's frustrating.

As for their west competition, the season is far too young to say what kind of competition they have in the west. I'll wait to see them play against Dallas and San Antonio before I pass judgment. I like their chances, given that SA has folded like a deck of cards to LA in the playoffs save for one year, and Dallas is always _allas in the playoffs.


Its easy to forget some seasons because Lakers seem to take it easy during the regular season, but they have put together some great records during the Phil era.
Lakers '99 season 15 loss ranks 5th(t) best all time record,
Lakers '08 season 17 loss ranks 14th(t) best all time record.


The Lakers under the Kobe/Pau Regime have not won a series where they didn't have homecourt, so it could be quite a differncemaker this year


Uhm, that is because they have only lost one playoff series since the Gasol trade and that was to the Celtics in the Finals the year Pau got traded...and they definitely did not deserve to win that series...

I really don't think homecourt plays much a difference either way to a 2-time championship team(specially with Kobe who always says it doesn't matter one bit)...

Oh, and once the Finals come, I think most people agree the 2-3-2 format favors the non-homecourt because of those middle 3 games..


I'd say the opposite, no home team has ever won the middle three games.
http://www.nba.com/finals2003/breakdown_232.html
Freeeeeeedom
iDoMiNaTe2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
288 Posts
April 02 2011 18:54 GMT
#2909
Homecourt matters more to a young team like OKC / CHI then lets say BOS/LAL/SA
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 02 2011 19:17 GMT
#2910
On April 03 2011 03:54 iDoMiNaTe2.0 wrote:
Homecourt matters more to a young team like OKC / CHI then lets say BOS/LAL/SA


Homecourt matters more to teams that rely on getting to the foul line like Chi/Mia.
Freeeeeeedom
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
April 02 2011 23:25 GMT
#2911
Entire homecourt debate with the lakers may become moot soon. They are looking good and the spurs are floundering. There's a good chance they secure that top spot. The only have 1 more loss than the spurs as it is.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
April 03 2011 02:06 GMT
#2912
Seriously, thought spurs were a lock for it.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 03 2011 07:16 GMT
#2913
On April 03 2011 11:06 SK.Testie wrote:
Seriously, thought spurs were a lock for it.


Wins tend to dry up when your good players get hurt. It seems like the bulls and lakers are strangely immune to this phenomenon...
Freeeeeeedom
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
April 03 2011 08:05 GMT
#2914
Meh, Bulls haven't had any game-breaking injuries. Sure Noah and Boozer have gone down at times. But they are so deep behind them (thomas, asik, gibson are all strong).

Lakers have only played without bynum. And Odom would be a starter on any other team in the league anyways. So it's not the end of the world.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
April 03 2011 08:10 GMT
#2915
Well, they lost more support players.

So sad for the Spurs, a player as great, smart, and as unselfish as Timmy deserves to go out like Russell. The hard working defensive teams for some reason are petering out.

The Bulls just aren't as likable to me.
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
April 03 2011 12:48 GMT
#2916
did you guys see chi vs tor? man, drose is amazing to watch.
Woo Jung Ho
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
April 03 2011 14:13 GMT
#2917
im sure its every better against the worst perimeter defensive team in the league that has guards go off on them every night xD

Calderon and Bayless are your guards? PG's and even backup PG's have to go in knowing they can torch the raptors.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
iDoMiNaTe2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
288 Posts
April 03 2011 18:21 GMT
#2918
Yeah D Rose is one of the most exciting players to watch that block he did was so sick...

What game breaking injuries have the Spurs had? Duncan was out 3 games and you still got McDyess.
Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
April 03 2011 18:36 GMT
#2919
On April 03 2011 02:10 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 17:14 MassHysteria wrote:
Uhm, that is because they have only lost one playoff series since the Gasol trade and that was to the Celtics in the Finals the year Pau got traded...and they definitely did not deserve to win that series...

I really don't think homecourt plays much a difference either way to a 2-time championship team(specially with Kobe who always says it doesn't matter one bit)...

Oh, and once the Finals come, I think most people agree the 2-3-2 format favors the non-homecourt because of those middle 3 games..


I'd say the opposite, no home team has ever won the middle three games.
http://www.nba.com/finals2003/breakdown_232.html

Detroit did in 2004 and Miami in 2006.
altec1011
Profile Joined April 2011
92 Posts
April 03 2011 19:02 GMT
#2920
so it's been about 4 months since I was banned from Teamliquid after trying to defend Rose as the better player between him and Rondo (Ridiculous isnt it)

So where are you doubters now? Some clown named "Ace" kept trying to make a case for Derrick Rose being overrated... LOL

How foolish do you guys look now with D-Rose being the inevitable MVP and the Bull's being the #1 seed in the East?

I repeat, 4 months ago, I tried to debate whether he was the best PG in NBA, and morons like Ace tried to claim that even RONDO was a better player!!! smh
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