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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On October 02 2011 03:59 Judicator wrote: And this is why UW Blade is ass, getting blown out by a turn 1 Dismember... What's getting Dismembered? I thought the carriers of choice were Invisible Stalker and Geist of St. Traft. What's so important to UW Blade on turn 1? I'm not watching and I have absolutely 0 clue on decklists, so I'm quite curious. | ||
520
United States2822 Posts
On October 02 2011 05:46 dignity wrote: Thought of siding in stony silence? Oblivion rings? Also, since your curve is quite high you might want to consider avacyn's pilgrims since you are running white anyways. O-Ring isn't legal in block, but I might do Avacyn's Pilgrim. I'm not sure what to cut, but I want to lower the curve. On October 02 2011 05:52 Cixah wrote: Block is a year a way. I'll wait, but I suspect tribal will be heavily forced. I play Block on MTGO because it's easy to do dailies. | ||
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dignity
Canada908 Posts
Also consider running champion of the parish | ||
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numLoCK
Canada1416 Posts
On October 02 2011 05:36 Judicator wrote: Mimic Vat has higher upside and it sees 0 play. If Pike goes to the same price as Vat you pretty much double your money, as Vat retails for almost $2. On October 02 2011 05:40 dignity wrote: My deck gets out a furyborn hellkite with bloodthirst on turn 1 and if they have nothing to deal with it I win. Does that mean furyborn hellkite will suddenly become a staple? No. Runechanters pike isn't going anywhere as long as the swords are standard. The only other equipment that are currently seeing play other than swords is mortorpod (rarely) and flayer husks. I have yet to see a deck that runs batterskull ever since stoneforge got banned. This is actually part of the reason why I hate the swords. I love them for what they do but when every deck can benefit off of them it starts getting boring and uncreative. Pike and Sword fill a different role, in that Pike is typically a go big one hit kill (at least in the decks I've seen). | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On October 02 2011 06:05 slyboogie wrote: What's getting Dismembered? I thought the carriers of choice were Invisible Stalker and Geist of St. Traft. What's so important to UW Blade on turn 1? I'm not watching and I have absolutely 0 clue on decklists, so I'm quite curious. Puresteel. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On October 02 2011 06:23 Judicator wrote: Puresteel. That's weird. Puresteel Paladin is awesome but you don't just throw him into any deck with a sword :/ | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On October 02 2011 06:32 slyboogie wrote: That's weird. Puresteel Paladin is awesome but you don't just throw him into any deck with a sword :/ Relying on Geist and Stalker is a great way to lose to Liliana. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
 I'm just watching for the sake of nostalgia. | ||
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dignity
Canada908 Posts
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On October 02 2011 06:51 Judicator wrote: Relying on Geist and Stalker is a great way to lose to Liliana. I don't think that means Paladin is the answer. Invisible Stalker is bad anyways or, at least, he's no Squadron Hawk. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On October 02 2011 07:54 slyboogie wrote: I don't think that means Paladin is the answer. Invisible Stalker is bad anyways or, at least, he's no Squadron Hawk. Playing control against those colors without Hawks is also a good way to lose. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On October 02 2011 07:56 Judicator wrote: Playing control against those colors without Hawks is also a good way to lose. Okay thanks. Constructive conversation. | ||
Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
I think Puresteel is horrible in the "Caw Blade" shell. You dont activate metal craft enough for it to be completely worth it. plus I still feel Geist and Invisible Stalker and even the 1/1 flip into a 3/2 would be better. And if lilianna is giving you that big of an issue you should running my O-rings and celestial purges out of the main because this Solar Flare deck is going to see a lot of play I think. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
Pursteel getting killed by 1 mana removal makes me sad, if it was doom blade of GftT I wouldn't mind since it's equal exchange and I retain board control since they will tap out for puresteel, but I can dish out dismembers drawback in a single turn with puresteel in play and then they have 2 mana to do whatever they feel like when its their turn and they have instantly turned it to their advantage when they were on the draw. Why? Cause dismember.Dismember can go die in a corner. | ||
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dignity
Canada908 Posts
Brave the elements was ran, I don't see why those 2 can't be. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
You're going to try to run the old UW control shell that just blows? UW control is like dead dead right now. ISD gave it nothing unique and it lost Colonnade. There's nothing to discuss. That's why you see Heroes in all the UW decks or they just go straight aggro. Trying to compete against UB or against some UBW builds in a control setting is pointless. They have better everything across the board. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On October 02 2011 08:05 Shotcoder wrote: I think Puresteel is horrible in the "Caw Blade" shell. You dont activate metal craft enough for it to be completely worth it. plus I still feel Geist and Invisible Stalker and even the 1/1 flip into a 3/2 would be better. And if lilianna is giving you that big of an issue you should running my O-rings and celestial purges out of the main because this Solar Flare deck is going to see a lot of play I think. Liliana still gets priority on the sack, so purge isn't even in the discussion. If you don't turn 1 Flayer Husk, you are probably going to scoop against an average hand with Liliana. It's just the combination of Liliana/Think Twice/Forbidden Alchemy is so fucking strong that basically the decks running that mix only has to worry about the turn 1 play. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
Also, why are Seachrome Coasts so damned expensive? <----- no snark. Genuine question. | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
On October 02 2011 08:18 Judicator wrote: Liliana still gets priority on the sack, so purge isn't even in the discussion. If you don't turn 1 Flayer Husk, you are probably going to scoop against an average hand with Liliana. It's just the combination of Liliana/Think Twice/Forbidden Alchemy is so fucking strong that basically the decks running that mix only has to worry about the turn 1 play. We aren't talking about the same thing are we? I thought we were discussing UW with Puresteel in a Caw Blade shell.... not Puresteel Equipster. @slyboogie: due to the fact they were used in Bant Pod, Caw Blade, UW puresteel, and some Tempered Steel decks. The demand for them is just so high. Edit: This is the UW humans deck I'm thinking about running after our releases are over. seems good and it's actually pretty cheap considering i don't have to add very many cards. + Show Spoiler + Creatures 4x Hero of Bladehold 4x Mirran Crusader 4x Elite Vanguard 4x Grand Abolisher 2x Phantasmal Image 4x Champion of the Parish Enchantments 4x Honor of the Pure 4x Oblivion Ring 2x Bonds of Faith Land 4x Seachrome Coast 4x Glacial Fortress 2x Moorland Haunt 12x Plains Planeswalkers 2x Gideon Jura Spells 2x Dismember 2x Day of Judgment Sideboard: 3x Leonin Relic-Warder 2x Celestial Purge 2x Day of Judgment 3x Timely Reinforcements 3x Flashfreeze 2x Negate The other option is a Boros board sweeper deck since the metagame where I play is so highly aggro. Running Slagstorm and day with Koth and Gideon until I can resolve a Titan. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On October 02 2011 08:23 slyboogie wrote: No, I wasn't taking any sort of stance on UW control. I just think Puresteel Paladin shouldn't be in a UW Blade deck. But it wasn't like your one-liners were saying all that much either. Also, why are Seachrome Coasts so damned expensive? <----- no snark. Genuine question. Well my original comment was discussing the UW equip deck.... Because people like UW and want to hang on to the Blade deck. In any case, I have no clue why people keep playing decks that scoop to Day. The WG Humans deck is a prime example... Also, the UW point still stands regardless of what your take on the two colors are. | ||
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