EPTOn October 01 2011 13:38 dignity wrote:
The only direction for the dual-lands is up.
The only direction for the dual-lands is up.
How so? Supply is only going to increase and I don't foresee a huge increase in demand.
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DEN1ED
United States1087 Posts
How so? Supply is only going to increase and I don't foresee a huge increase in demand. | ||
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btway
United States879 Posts
On October 01 2011 13:38 dignity wrote: I honestly think snapcastor mage is overrated. Its good, but not as good as people are making it out to be. Truth. Which is why I traded it in for 15 bucks immediately. Thanks for the opinions, I'll keep Heartless Summoning just to see if your prediction is right. Don't mind losing a few bucks. Edit: btw any word about whether mtg will be at comicon this year? | ||
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dignity
Canada908 Posts
On October 01 2011 14:13 DEN1ED wrote: How so? Supply is only going to increase and I don't foresee a huge increase in demand. With the new dual-lands you now have the ability to run 3 colors with a stable and consistant mana base. White green blue pod or hexblade are going to be popular. White/black/blue control will also be popular. Supply will go up but demand will be there to meet it. Also, every person with an EDH deck wants at least one of those dual-lands. As for the heartless summoning its been crawling up slowly. Started at $4 and now its about $6. People seem to like turn 4 wurmcoil/titan without any mana ramp. Also, free myr superions. Maybe even get Melira and an etched monstrosity out turn 4 (10 power turn 4) might be pretty good... | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On October 01 2011 11:59 btway wrote: Just came back from FNM sealed deck. Looking for some pricing predictions. Current Prices: Hinterland Harbor: 6.25 - 9.99 Hero of Bladehold: 7.78 - 11.87 Sheoldred, Whispering One: 2.39 - 6.47 Heartless Summoning: 3.56 - 8.99 Mentor of the Meek: 3.26 - 5.99 Which of these do you think will go down as people start constructing decks? I don't play standard, so I want to trade in the droppers asap. Hinterland Harbor should remain pretty steady since it is played in older formats. Mentor of the Meek is a safe bet to keep, since it is a unique card advantage engine, there will always be decks that play it even if those decks aren't tier 1. Not sure where you see Heartless Summoning for $9, it's about $5 from what I've seen, I would sell for that much now if you can. Even if it is ridiculously good, it will only ever see play in a single deck at a time, and thus as a rare it shouldn't really go higher than $6-7. It could also end up being totally unplayable, then it's worth nothing. Hero is about $8 now, and should hold steady at that range. You could sell if you want to, it's always in danger of being outclassed by a better 3 or 4-drop that gets printed later, and then the price will plummet. It might go a little higher once MBS starts decirculating, but not much. It's a fairly safe sell. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
Played white/black splash green for the 5/5 morbid trampler and Tree of Redemption. Had a Mentor and tons of targets (including tree) a Trepanation Blade (that does SERIOUS work in limited), and the mythic demon that kills things. I basically won every game that the Demon was not in my bottom 3 cards (because it got down to that every time it was) and lost the rest. Main problem was lack of fliers and flier defense. I only had a Rebuke and Tribute to Hunger for removal and 2 priests for conditional removal (read tapping). I died to the 3/3 fliers more often than I care to admit. I sided in a Spidery Grasp but never got to use it (it's still a better limited card than people give it credit for). I still drew well and combat math (espeically with the Tree factored in) is really, really difficult in this set. There's 90 billion combat tricks and abilities that make math more difficult, it's just a joy to play, and most of the games go long....unless your opponent has 2 of the 2 drop rare werewolves (the 3/3 intimidate an mayor) and gets them on T2/3 back to back when you have no 2 drop. Then you just die. | ||
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DEN1ED
United States1087 Posts
SCG Indianapolis Open live stream. Should be interesting to see what new decks come out on top. | ||
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numLoCK
Canada1416 Posts
Right now it is easily available at a dirt cheap 50 cents. Because it is a rare, even at the very worst it won't lose that much value (though it might be hard to get rid of) but I can see it doubling in price to $1 without too much trouble and upside could be even higher. There are already some pretty sweet decks that love this thing, one example being UB Control with Runechanter's Pike + Inkmoth Nexus as a win con, though that deck in particular will lose surprise factor and might not end up being strong enough. | ||
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GogoKodo
Canada1785 Posts
On October 02 2011 03:12 DEN1ED wrote: http://www.justin.tv/scglive?utm_campaign=live_embed_click&utm_source=starcitygames.com#/w/1844568368/2 SCG Indianapolis Open live stream. Should be interesting to see what new decks come out on top. I would be really interested in this stuff if they could get a stream with a higher quality. It's impossible to tell what cards are being played right now. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
On October 02 2011 03:44 numLoCK wrote: Only card I am speculating on right now: Runechanter's Pike. Right now it is easily available at a dirt cheap 50 cents. Because it is a rare, even at the very worst it won't lose that much value (though it might be hard to get rid of) but I can see it doubling in price to $1 without too much trouble and upside could be even higher. There are already some pretty sweet decks that love this thing, one example being UB Control with Runechanter's Pike + Inkmoth Nexus as a win con, though that deck in particular will lose surprise factor and might not end up being strong enough. doesn't seem like it would ever see competitive play too me, sorry. Maybe some edh play, and some rogue decks though. In a control deck, it would be better to run a big impact creature or win con in that spot, instead of an equipment, cause it will be a dead draw early and mid game, you need to have mana up to protect your inkmoth when you finally do want to attack, and it limits your mana every turn(need to equip every turn since its an animate land). Might as well run a 6 drop bomb that will change the face of the game when it comes down. | ||
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DEN1ED
United States1087 Posts
On October 02 2011 03:57 GogoKodo wrote: I would be really interested in this stuff if they could get a stream with a higher quality. It's impossible to tell what cards are being played right now. I'd say the quality is pretty good. Obviously you aren't going to be able to read the cards. Need to know them by art. The glare is the biggest problem sometimes though. | ||
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numLoCK
Canada1416 Posts
On October 02 2011 04:09 BlueBird. wrote: doesn't seem like it would ever see competitive play too me, sorry. Maybe some edh play, and some rogue decks though. In a control deck, it would be better to run a big impact creature or win con in that spot, instead of an equipment, cause it will be a dead draw early and mid game, you need to have mana up to protect your inkmoth when you finally do want to attack, and it limits your mana every turn(need to equip every turn since its an animate land). Might as well run a 6 drop bomb that will change the face of the game when it comes down. The deck I mentioned typically goes for a win on the turn it drops the Pike, so barring fliers/instant speed removal (and some lists run blighted agent as well to stop fliers, though I don't know how well that works) its a pretty efficient win con. I will admit though, its definitely not a sure thing, but I think it has potential to see play and getting to $1 doesn't make a card really high on the list of playables, but it will double any potential investment. | ||
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GogoKodo
Canada1785 Posts
On October 02 2011 04:28 DEN1ED wrote: I'd say the quality is pretty good. Obviously you aren't going to be able to read the cards. Need to know them by art. The glare is the biggest problem sometimes though. I think most of the art isn't discernible except if someone plays 2 of the same cards you can tell that the coloured blobs look the same as each other. I can tell what's being played by listening to the announcers but if they don't mention something I wouldn't know what it is. Maybe my eyes are bad. | ||
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DEN1ED
United States1087 Posts
On October 02 2011 04:45 GogoKodo wrote: I think most of the art isn't discernible except if someone plays 2 of the same cards you can tell that the coloured blobs look the same as each other. I can tell what's being played by listening to the announcers but if they don't mention something I wouldn't know what it is. Maybe my eyes are bad. Maybe it's just bad for you? I can easily tell what the cards are from the art. | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On October 02 2011 04:38 numLoCK wrote: The deck I mentioned typically goes for a win on the turn it drops the Pike, so barring fliers/instant speed removal (and some lists run blighted agent as well to stop fliers, though I don't know how well that works) its a pretty efficient win con. I will admit though, its definitely not a sure thing, but I think it has potential to see play and getting to $1 doesn't make a card really high on the list of playables, but it will double any potential investment. Mimic Vat has higher upside and it sees 0 play. | ||
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dignity
Canada908 Posts
Runechanters pike isn't going anywhere as long as the swords are standard. The only other equipment that are currently seeing play other than swords is mortorpod (rarely) and flayer husks. I have yet to see a deck that runs batterskull ever since stoneforge got banned. This is actually part of the reason why I hate the swords. I love them for what they do but when every deck can benefit off of them it starts getting boring and uncreative. | ||
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United States2822 Posts
4 Mayor of Avabruck 4 Doomed Traveler 4 Mausoleum Guard 4 Geist-Honored Monk 4 Mentor of the Meek 2 Mikaeus, the Lunarch 1 Essence of the Wild 4 Intangible Virtue 4 Midnight Haunting 4 Parallel Lives 3 Garruk Relentless 4 Gavony Township 10 Plains 8 Forest SB: 3 Fiend Hunter SB: 3 Village Bell-Ringer SB: 3 Kessig Cagebreakers SB: 3 Nevermore SB: 3 Rebuke Discussion points - sideboard. I have no idea what to do with it. Nevermore is mainly for things I know would blow out my deck (Scourge of Geier Reach, if anyone would play that, Blasphemous Act, Divine Reckoning). I'm not even sure if Parallel Lives is good, or if it's too high on the mana curve. Ideas consist of splashing Clifftop Retreat and Kessig Wolf Run for better alpha strikes, removing Geist-Honored Monk for something better, etc. | ||
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dignity
Canada908 Posts
Also, since your curve is quite high you might want to consider avacyn's pilgrims since you are running white anyways. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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