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hfxRos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada87 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 13:31:14
June 15 2012 13:27 GMT
#12121
On June 15 2012 22:21 heishe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 21:24 hfxRos wrote:
On June 15 2012 02:29 Heh_ wrote:
On June 15 2012 02:26 hfxRos wrote:
On June 15 2012 01:57 Heh_ wrote:
On June 15 2012 01:55 darkcloud8282 wrote:
On June 15 2012 01:50 Heh_ wrote:
On June 15 2012 01:48 darkcloud8282 wrote:
On June 15 2012 01:38 turdburgler wrote:
On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
[quote]

I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not.

I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now.

Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up.


show me your auction house tab, how many of those items just purely wouldnt exist if people hadnt bullshitted their way into act3 on day2.

Look at the HC. People are progressing just fine without all this chest farming/exploiting. It's possible to progress through the game just fine without "massive help".

Not really. They're just taking longer to get to the good farming spots, which might have been nerfed before they even reach it. If they do, then it's business as usual.

Yes you can proceed just fine without help, but it'll take a lot more time to do so.

What's the rush? Are you racing to get first inferno diablo or something?

There's no rush. However, someone claimed that you could progress really quickly without exploiting. I'll quote it here:
On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:

lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.


I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not.

I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now.

Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up.

Edit: From the way he posted, he might still be stuck in Hell difficulty.... which explains everything.


Nope, Inferno. Didn't think I had to specify that since everything pre-inferno is a joke.

I think about half my gear was purchased, half was found. Since I'm on act 3 right now, anything that is possible to drop, can be dropped for me. My gear is significantly below most of the common "suggested values" on the official D3 board.

Don't assume that your experience is identical to everyone else's.

Nowhere in my post did I claim that it could be done quickly. I'm taking my time.

How many hours have you spent? You say that you haven't spent a "ton" of time playing, but that's subjective. If you're undergeared, you just keep dying over and over again. Period.


Don't know if you're still following this thread, but it turns out it's 73 hours. I must have played a bit more during the first weekend than I thought. That's still reasonable compared to the time that others have put in.


Well, how did you do it? Some special build or farming spot? I have about 110 hours played and I've just gotten enough gear to farm most of A2 comfortably, and I'm still getting destroyed in A3 by anything but white mobs (and even those are really hard).


I posted something previous about what I did (it's the last post on page 604).

Honestly, I think there is more of a skill/strategy/tactics/planning/whatever you want to call it, element to this game than most people give it credit for.

If I walk into a group of mobs, and expect to win by swinging my sword around, I die fast.

If I try to kite and just get a few hits in here and there, I will eventually run out of gas and die.

I find myself trying to find ways to use the terrain to split up monsters, using Leap/Furious Charge in ways that keep a minimum number of things from hitting me.

I would add through, that even though I'm "on Act 3", Act 3 still tears the shit out of me if anything goes wrong. I'm currently stuck on the ballista area working towards Siegebreaker, but I feel like I'm just a bit of practice and a small amount of gear away from breaking through that.

Edit: missed the "farming" part of the question. I don't have any tricks. I did Warden/Butcher runs, until I was comfortably able to do Kuule/Belial runs. I tried doing runs at Ghom, but it wasn't efficient at all. I will admit, I've had some really nice luck. I've gotten a few caster/dex drops that I've been able to sell for over 1mil, and turn into nice gear. I also don't do any AH buy low/sell high stuff. I find AHing boring, so I can't be fucked to do that.
kethers
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States719 Posts
June 15 2012 13:49 GMT
#12122
On June 15 2012 16:00 Brow23 wrote:
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On June 15 2012 03:07 FallDownMarigold wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 15 2012 02:42 Brow23 wrote:
Its impossible to be able to solo act3/act4 as barb as of right now.


PsyStarcraft -- plays a Barb w/o any other char. His Barb can solo the entire game (with deaths of course -- not HC)


Doesnt work if you don't have 1000 fanboys who support you with gold/items...


Source? I think Athene was the one who was fed millions of gold, not Psy.
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
June 15 2012 14:31 GMT
#12123
Video I made for a machinima contest, but I was late on the submission. After putting many hours into this game, I can safely safe that cultists have the worst job in Diablo 3. Poor souls.

TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
June 15 2012 14:35 GMT
#12124
On June 15 2012 23:31 Kambing wrote:
Video I made for a machinima contest, but I was late on the submission. After putting many hours into this game, I can safely safe that cultists have the worst job in Diablo 3. Poor souls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rVLN3sP6kQ


lol, that's great
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Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
June 15 2012 15:27 GMT
#12125
On June 15 2012 21:51 Torte de Lini wrote:
What level do you have to be to beat Belial in Hell. I'm playing hardcore and just reached 51 :X

i did it at 56 but it was still way too dangerous, just farm the doom in wortham quest until 58 or so (gives same exp as killing belial and is faster/easier) . No reason to go to act 3 or 4 to risk dying.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
June 15 2012 15:30 GMT
#12126
On June 15 2012 01:09 Torte de Lini wrote:
Does Mantra of Conviction work on allies? It doesn't work on my friend's barb at all ._.


You know it increases damage received by enemies right? It won't show up on the buff list because it doesn't change anything about your hero, it just puts a negative buff on the enemies. Not sure if that's what you are asking.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
June 15 2012 15:34 GMT
#12127
On June 15 2012 23:31 Kambing wrote:
Video I made for a machinima contest, but I was late on the submission. After putting many hours into this game, I can safely safe that cultists have the worst job in Diablo 3. Poor souls.
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rVLN3sP6kQ


Always the bears... ^^ Laughed out loud.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 15 2012 15:50 GMT
#12128
On June 16 2012 00:30 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 01:09 Torte de Lini wrote:
Does Mantra of Conviction work on allies? It doesn't work on my friend's barb at all ._.


You know it increases damage received by enemies right? It won't show up on the buff list because it doesn't change anything about your hero, it just puts a negative buff on the enemies. Not sure if that's what you are asking.


uh...................

It shows up on my hero
and the enemies receive more damage from me, yes...
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 15:53:00
June 15 2012 15:51 GMT
#12129
It shows up on allies too. I noticed it when I double activated. You WILL NOT see it if there is too many buffs on him so yours doesn't show. (NV, Warcry, Frenzy, original mantra of conviction, and the double proc won't show up I think)
And obviously it would be retarded if it didn't work on allies and they didn't mention it...
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 15 2012 15:57 GMT
#12130
On June 16 2012 00:51 Slayer91 wrote:
It shows up on allies too. I noticed it when I double activated. You WILL NOT see it if there is too many buffs on him so yours doesn't show. (NV, Warcry, Frenzy, original mantra of conviction, and the double proc won't show up I think)
And obviously it would be retarded if it didn't work on allies and they didn't mention it...


No, I think its the only one that isn't for you and your allies.
All the other mantras write specifically for you + allies.

But not this one.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
June 15 2012 16:06 GMT
#12131
On June 15 2012 23:31 Kambing wrote:
Video I made for a machinima contest, but I was late on the submission. After putting many hours into this game, I can safely safe that cultists have the worst job in Diablo 3. Poor souls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rVLN3sP6kQ


Pretty amateur mistake to make the cultist speaking part of a 5 man circle, but when he dies he is part of a 3 man circle, other than that it was hilarious
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
June 15 2012 16:12 GMT
#12132
On June 16 2012 00:50 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 00:30 solidbebe wrote:
On June 15 2012 01:09 Torte de Lini wrote:
Does Mantra of Conviction work on allies? It doesn't work on my friend's barb at all ._.


You know it increases damage received by enemies right? It won't show up on the buff list because it doesn't change anything about your hero, it just puts a negative buff on the enemies. Not sure if that's what you are asking.


uh...................

It shows up on my hero
and the enemies receive more damage from me, yes...


It shows up on your buff list because it's a sustained ability you're using. I've always thought it was for allies too but could be I'm wrong. Wouldn't make sense at all though.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
hfxRos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada87 Posts
June 15 2012 16:29 GMT
#12133
On June 16 2012 00:50 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 00:30 solidbebe wrote:
On June 15 2012 01:09 Torte de Lini wrote:
Does Mantra of Conviction work on allies? It doesn't work on my friend's barb at all ._.


You know it increases damage received by enemies right? It won't show up on the buff list because it doesn't change anything about your hero, it just puts a negative buff on the enemies. Not sure if that's what you are asking.


uh...................

It shows up on my hero
and the enemies receive more damage from me, yes...


And they are also receiving more damage from your allies. My main teammate is a Monk, and I know I hit harder with him around.

I don't get the buff icon, because it's not a buff. It is a debuff that is on the monsters to make them take more damage. The Monk gets a buff to indicate the aura is debuffing nearby enemies.

This is not rocket science.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 15 2012 16:32 GMT
#12134
al'right thanks
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
June 15 2012 18:14 GMT
#12135
well i just got my refund (along with 3 of my friends) and i had over 150 hrs played.

diablo has turned from a hack'n'slash, to a hack'n'cash game. a huge reason that many people will continue to play is because they want to sell stuff on the RMAH...a disgrace really.

one of my friends who didnt get a refund has been farming gold for ages just to sell it when the RMAH comes out. is this even a game anymore? who plays a game to make a few hundred bucks? not worth the time at all.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 15 2012 18:18 GMT
#12136
diablo has turned from a hack'n'slash, to a hack'n'cash game. a huge reason that many people will continue to play is because they want to sell stuff on the RMAH...a disgrace really.


hardcore
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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
June 15 2012 18:19 GMT
#12137
On June 16 2012 03:14 Silidons wrote:
well i just got my refund (along with 3 of my friends) and i had over 150 hrs played.

diablo has turned from a hack'n'slash, to a hack'n'cash game. a huge reason that many people will continue to play is because they want to sell stuff on the RMAH...a disgrace really.

one of my friends who didnt get a refund has been farming gold for ages just to sell it when the RMAH comes out. is this even a game anymore? who plays a game to make a few hundred bucks? not worth the time at all.

I don't know about him, but I played to have fun, and I enjoyed farming stuff.

The thousand dollars I got for my gear was just a bonus.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 18:24:40
June 15 2012 18:23 GMT
#12138
On June 16 2012 03:18 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
diablo has turned from a hack'n'slash, to a hack'n'cash game. a huge reason that many people will continue to play is because they want to sell stuff on the RMAH...a disgrace really.


hardcore

would but the community generally likes the smell of their own farts. same as in every game that has a hardcore mode.

used fart because of the south park episode, because they remind me exactly of the people in that episode
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
hfxRos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada87 Posts
June 15 2012 18:23 GMT
#12139
On June 16 2012 03:14 Silidons wrote:
well i just got my refund (along with 3 of my friends) and i had over 150 hrs played.


This is absurd.

You bought a game, and played it for 150 hours.

ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY HOURS.

That is an INCREDIBLE value for your money. Clearly you enjoyed the game if you played it that much. I think Blizzard should be denying refunds to anyone with more than 10 hours of game played time.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
June 15 2012 18:26 GMT
#12140
On June 16 2012 03:23 hfxRos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 03:14 Silidons wrote:
well i just got my refund (along with 3 of my friends) and i had over 150 hrs played.


This is absurd.

You bought a game, and played it for 150 hours.

ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY HOURS.

That is an INCREDIBLE value for your money. Clearly you enjoyed the game if you played it that much. I think Blizzard should be denying refunds to anyone with more than 10 hours of game played time.

i don't understand. people buy things all the time for thousands of dollars are they are entitled to a full money back guarantee if the product didn't give them what they wanted it to.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
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