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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 04 2010 07:49 GMT
#10161
They even nerfed him recently because he was OP on TT, don't think they'll be buffing him because they want to "balance the game on both maps"
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 07:51:58
August 04 2010 07:51 GMT
#10162
On August 04 2010 16:49 Shikyo wrote:
They even nerfed him recently because he was OP on TT, don't think they'll be buffing him because they want to "balance the game on both maps"


Yea I guess I can see him being strong there. I've been trying a bunch of builds for 5v5 and haven't really had any success. He is an early game monster though. No one plays him anymore so when I axe somebody then blink on top of them with masochism they are surprised to see themselves get basically 2 shot.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 04 2010 08:14 GMT
#10163
My suggested way of playing him would be to solo mid and play an extremely aggressive zoning strategy with cleavers. If you do it properly you might be able to snowball out of control. My suggested build would be like a mass sunfire style build with an atmas and probabaly one 40% aspd item.

Then again I havent played him since I played TT =/
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 08:46:01
August 04 2010 08:42 GMT
#10164
On August 04 2010 16:49 Shikyo wrote:
They even nerfed him recently because he was OP on TT, don't think they'll be buffing him because they want to "balance the game on both maps"


they nerfed him twice for tt

one was the nerf for his w cd reduct and some stats, not sure

then the biggest nerf was you can't cleanse ignite anymore, so he got punched twice in the face.

shame, mundo was one of my fav heroes. i went like 14-0 with him on my smurf (win loss) and it was fun stomping noobs, critting 700 and never dying.

he's fine in tt, no need to nerf him anymore. add some buffs to mundo since you can just ignite him and watch him die like any other melee dps.

just go the good old spirit visage -> starks -> dps item, inf edge preferably then you can go mallet/yoomus/atmas.

the reason garen is good now is because it takes time for a hero to influence the top tier of players. you find out how to play from top players, who refine the playstyle. people found out how to itemize garen by going tanky then some dps, top tier dudes show how to play the hero. he got a role and was put into lineups as an offtank/melee dps who can do a ton of damage with his ult.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 04 2010 09:37 GMT
#10165
Well HotShotGG and Chauster have said Garen is OP for like months, but yeah.

I just played my first Normal game with Garen, laned with a noob Taric vs longsword Garen and Ezreal. I opened boots first and was doing awful on the lane, and went 0-3-0 during laning, one death being from a Shaco gank. Our team was 3-16 at that point I think, and we lost 7 towers before taking any of theirs.

Then it kind of turned around after we picked their Occult Shaco off twice to get his stacks off. Then we won 2 teamfights and pushed mid for victory, I was 8-3-5 at the end. Their garen who had gone for a DPS build was 2-0-1 after the laning but finished the game with 2-1-2, he didn't do anything the whole game.

I'm really liking Garen's lategame as well, I could do quite a bit of damage against some RoAers who didn't get mres and I'd never die.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
August 04 2010 10:44 GMT
#10166
Behold the ultimate Garen build!

[image loading]

But seriously, thanks for the advice guys. I hope they fix some of Garen's bugs if they nerf him! I'm really really happy that the character I chose is viable at all levels of play. I don't know what I'm going to do if someone picks him before me in a game, though.
Maybe I'll buy Xin too just in case.
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
August 04 2010 10:51 GMT
#10167
On August 04 2010 19:44 H wrote:
Behold the ultimate Garen build!

[image loading]

But seriously, thanks for the advice guys. I hope they fix some of Garen's bugs if they nerf him! I'm really really happy that the character I chose is viable at all levels of play. I don't know what I'm going to do if someone picks him before me in a game, though.
Maybe I'll buy Xin too just in case.


AD Janna. Do it.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 10:59:11
August 04 2010 10:57 GMT
#10168
On August 04 2010 19:44 H wrote:
Behold the ultimate Garen build!

[image loading]

But seriously, thanks for the advice guys. I hope they fix some of Garen's bugs if they nerf him! I'm really really happy that the character I chose is viable at all levels of play. I don't know what I'm going to do if someone picks him before me in a game, though.
Maybe I'll buy Xin too just in case.

Yeah imo that's the best one and Force of Nature if they have lots of magic damage. Although getting mres/lvl glyphs might remove the need... either way at least 3 sunfires.

EDIT: Forgot the obligatory "Malady teemo GG"
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 11:38:59
August 04 2010 11:38 GMT
#10169
Practice games are seriously awesome. I'm Garen with merc treads and 2 sunfires at 26 minues. My team decides to kill themselves in a teamfight while I'm away. They have 4 people left, although all are at pretty low hp. What happens next? I get a delayed hexakill by myself -> surrender vote.

Garen sooo good!

Stop being so inactive or I keep getting doubleposts wtf -_-
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 04 2010 11:49 GMT
#10170
Kayle is such an easy character... Really all it takes is 4 items and you're fine in 80% of the games by just pumping elixirs.

On another note I <333333333 my fresh full runepage, mr/18 are SO strong...
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 04 2010 11:53 GMT
#10171
I need to first finish my dodge seals and then get mres/lvl seals and glyphs. And then armor pen quints and magic pen marks and then flat health quints. God...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 04 2010 12:22 GMT
#10172
Flat health quints are so expensive... I need to buy a full set of flat healths, full set of cdr blues and full set of mpen marks...
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 12:37:33
August 04 2010 12:36 GMT
#10173
does like nobody realize that sunfire garens are super vulnerable to spells?
get bloodrazors kthx
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 12:37:21
August 04 2010 12:37 GMT
#10174
fuuuuu
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 04 2010 12:39 GMT
#10175
On August 04 2010 21:36 Caller wrote:
does like nobody realize that sunfire garens are super vulnerable to spells?
get bloodrazors kthx

Force of Nature is almost core and amazing on him and I had 105 mres and 3800 hp last game with just merc treads... if you have a full set of mres@18 you have like 135 which should be enough... force of nature if they get bloodrazors and you should be good
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 04 2010 12:48 GMT
#10176
There's not much of a reason to play any physical carry over Olaf if you ask me .

Garen or Udyr, maybe, but nobody carries as hard as Olaf, plus he can jungle really, really fast.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 12:54:08
August 04 2010 12:51 GMT
#10177
On August 04 2010 21:36 Caller wrote:
does like nobody realize that sunfire garens are super vulnerable to spells?
get bloodrazors kthx


No one is super vulnerable to spells with 4k hp.

Yes, of course it is smart to add Mres at a certain point, depending on who you are up against. Burning nukes on someone with damage reduction and 4k hp is still a mistake.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 04 2010 12:57 GMT
#10178
Garen is more of a tank though, as is Udyr. And Nasus.

Olaf might be good, I should experiment with him, hope he's free next week
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
August 04 2010 13:01 GMT
#10179
i played 11 games of LoL and i must say that i am bothered by the slow feel of the game. It is just as someone change the gamespeed from faster to normal :/
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 04 2010 13:04 GMT
#10180
On August 04 2010 22:01 Teejing wrote:
i played 11 games of LoL and i must say that i am bothered by the slow feel of the game. It is just as someone change the gamespeed from faster to normal :/

Compared to dota? You're doing something wrong, since LoL is like fastest speed, when DotA is slow or normal o_o

Play Ezreal maybe.
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