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STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 04 2010 13:09 GMT
#10181
Hey Guys my brother just picked up Taric and I was wondering if anyone had any good build ideas for him. I get the feeling he should be the team aura-whore while getting some AP of his own but I don't really know since I've never played him myself.

Also I'll be picking up Kayle soon so that should be a fun lane with the two of them there <3
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 04 2010 13:14 GMT
#10182
Soul Shroud and Aegis are pretty good on Taric imo, after that I really don't know. Probably something like GA and then you can be the oracle bitch.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 04 2010 13:19 GMT
#10183
I think Mana Manipulator -> Soul Shroud is probably a decent opener on him since it will allow him and his laning partner to spam whatever they want early on.

I just feel like watching him run into a teamfight giving his team 5 buffs then poping his ulti would be hilarious.
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 13:27:20
August 04 2010 13:23 GMT
#10184
On August 04 2010 22:09 STS17 wrote:
Hey Guys my brother just picked up Taric and I was wondering if anyone had any good build ideas for him. I get the feeling he should be the team aura-whore while getting some AP of his own but I don't really know since I've never played him myself.

Also I'll be picking up Kayle soon so that should be a fun lane with the two of them there <3


When I was learning Taric, Mogwai posted this:

On July 21 2010 02:42 Mogwai wrote:

I just go:
doran's ring
merc treads
guardian angel
<game usually over here>
usually banshee's veil here, but I guess it could be other things, it just usually feels most appropriate to me.


On July 21 2010 03:16 Mogwai wrote:
ghost/clarity is considered standard and required for him.

i think most people will tell you to run 9/0/21 or 0/9/21 with him, with a ???? for marks, mp5pl on both glyphs and seals, and flat HP on quints, but I run 0/21/9 with armor pen/dodge/mp5pl/flat HP because he has to share a page with Xin :p.

skills typically go eqwwwr r>w>q>e

I've also seen weird AP builds that get a DFG fast, but I'm of course talking about tank taric as I feel like AP Taric is just a bad version of Sion.


The only thing I have to add to that is that i've begun buying Chalice of Harmony either after boots 1 or boots 2. I just like the extra boost in mana that it provides, and the MR is really nice. I don't particularly like the Soul Shroud opening, though if i'm in a game where it'll be really useful i'll do it occasionally.

Other good mid/lategame buys include Glacial Shroud -> Frozen Heart and Nashor's Tooth. I haven't experimented with Deathfire yet, but that seems like it could be a decent buy as well. Usually if I have enough money for Deathfire, I have enough for Nashor's, and the extra boost to tower pushing is much better for my needs.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
August 04 2010 13:30 GMT
#10185
Has anyone ever tried/faced a Sion/Anivia lane? Ani's skillshot stun isn't much of a skillshot if you're already stunned. Seems like at level 2 with ani having stun+spike and sion having stun+shield you could basically combo people to death (or at least out of lane) in one go.
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 13:34:50
August 04 2010 13:34 GMT
#10186
Never tried it but I can say Sion/Blitzcrank is quite effective. Stun makes it easy to grab or he can grab then you stun then he power fists then they die to double ignite

E: Niton can you elaborate on why you dont like the Soul Shroud opening?
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 04 2010 13:35 GMT
#10187
My captain bans akali despite our team suggesting taric, opponents first pick taric, when we ask why he bans akali he says "u dont kno high elo"

Bring queue dodges back please...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 04 2010 13:38 GMT
#10188
On August 04 2010 22:35 Shikyo wrote:
he says "u dont kno high elo"


OH SNAP ZING!

If your friend is actually dedicated to playing Taric he'll probably want to invest in a full runepage of armor runes.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 04 2010 13:40 GMT
#10189
Well he's only level 16 right now but he will be finishing off his Ezreal page first I think unless he falls madly in love if hearing "Ruby for Harmony" all the time.
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 04 2010 13:47 GMT
#10190
On August 04 2010 22:30 oberon wrote:
Has anyone ever tried/faced a Sion/Anivia lane? Ani's skillshot stun isn't much of a skillshot if you're already stunned. Seems like at level 2 with ani having stun+spike and sion having stun+shield you could basically combo people to death (or at least out of lane) in one go.

It's fun, I've been doing that in a french premade for a couple days and it was insanely good, Anivia allows for great zoning and it transitions well later on into the game thanks to Sion's versatility.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
August 04 2010 13:48 GMT
#10191
On August 04 2010 22:34 STS17 wrote:
Never tried it but I can say Sion/Blitzcrank is quite effective. Stun makes it easy to grab or he can grab then you stun then he power fists then they die to double ignite

E: Niton can you elaborate on why you dont like the Soul Shroud opening?


Mana Manip winds up being a much worse item than Doran's Ring if I don't build right into Soul Shroud, and there's a lot of games where Soul Shroud's bonuses aren't really what I need. The CDR is really strong and I should probably build it more than I do, but building toward Chalice or GA seems to keep my team alive better than SS.

I should note that I don't play ranked yet, so it's not really the best input. I just dislike Mana Manip for not being "the best" opening item.

@Southlight - Armor runes? Why?
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
August 04 2010 13:50 GMT
#10192
On August 04 2010 22:35 Shikyo wrote:
My captain bans akali despite our team suggesting taric, opponents first pick taric, when we ask why he bans akali he says "u dont kno high elo"

Bring queue dodges back please...


haha i lold. what a troll.

also is it just me or is chalice a terrible item. when i first saw it i thought wow something that increases your mp5 as you spend mana? awesome for people who spam all the time. after reading it again, i think its actually pretty shit, it increases your mp5 by a percent so you have to already have some decent mp5 to get alot out of it. and i feel like at that point just more mana or mp5 would be better. and until that point just chug mana pots. heck i think even tear is better cause it actually builds into something.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
August 04 2010 13:59 GMT
#10193
On August 04 2010 22:50 Orpheos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 22:35 Shikyo wrote:
My captain bans akali despite our team suggesting taric, opponents first pick taric, when we ask why he bans akali he says "u dont kno high elo"

Bring queue dodges back please...


haha i lold. what a troll.

also is it just me or is chalice a terrible item. when i first saw it i thought wow something that increases your mp5 as you spend mana? awesome for people who spam all the time. after reading it again, i think its actually pretty shit, it increases your mp5 by a percent so you have to already have some decent mp5 to get alot out of it. and i feel like at that point just more mana or mp5 would be better. and until that point just chug mana pots. heck i think even tear is better cause it actually builds into something.


Chalice is nice because it's a 30 MR item that happens to give a lot of regen. It's not hard to get a bonus 20+ MP5 out of it by level 9-10 as Taric, at which point I prefer it to a Negatron.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 04 2010 14:03 GMT
#10194
On August 04 2010 21:48 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
There's not much of a reason to play any physical carry over Olaf if you ask me .

Garen or Udyr, maybe, but nobody carries as hard as Olaf, plus he can jungle really, really fast.

You should play nasus more >_>

Maybe it's just my elo (1300 derp derp) but sheen -> merc treads -> aegis -> adapting is usually really solid opening on him.
Havent really done bad with it ever. The best thing abotu nasus is as long as you have steady farming, you can easily transition over to a strong lategame
In the woods, there lurks..
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 04 2010 14:05 GMT
#10195
On August 04 2010 23:03 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 21:48 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
There's not much of a reason to play any physical carry over Olaf if you ask me .

Garen or Udyr, maybe, but nobody carries as hard as Olaf, plus he can jungle really, really fast.

You should play nasus more >_>

Maybe it's just my elo (1300 derp derp) but sheen -> merc treads -> aegis -> adapting is usually really solid opening on him.
Havent really done bad with it ever. The best thing abotu nasus is as long as you have steady farming, you can easily transition over to a strong lategame

Mass sunfires is better on Nasus imo. Along with your ulti it does like a millionbillion damage. Don't need triforce either I think, Atmas is better in that case in my opinion.


BTW that team captain who banned akali went 9-1-6 and carried pretty well. Weird =S
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 04 2010 14:12 GMT
#10196
Just looked at a guide for Kayle because I was bored. It suggested this for harassing during the laning phase:

Here is a quick guide of what to do in common laning scenarios:
-An enemy champion is going in for a last hit => Reckoning
-An enemy champion is about to attack you or an ally => Reckoning
-An enemy champion just popped out of the bushes => Reckoning
-An enemy champion is about to attack your turret => Reckoning
-An enemy champion is running away in fear of Reckoning => Reckoning
-An enemy champion hasn't been hit by Reckoning recently, and has forgotten what it looks like => remind him with a Reckoning
-An enemy champion is low on health, and is therefore asking you to kill him => Reckoning
- Reckoning is on cooldown => Reck...crap

Confirm/Deny
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 04 2010 14:15 GMT
#10197
E is a lot better but yeah you first Q and then E until they're out of range. Just Q spam isn't as effective I think.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 04 2010 14:15 GMT
#10198
On August 04 2010 23:05 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 23:03 Iplaythings wrote:
On August 04 2010 21:48 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
There's not much of a reason to play any physical carry over Olaf if you ask me .

Garen or Udyr, maybe, but nobody carries as hard as Olaf, plus he can jungle really, really fast.

You should play nasus more >_>

Maybe it's just my elo (1300 derp derp) but sheen -> merc treads -> aegis -> adapting is usually really solid opening on him.
Havent really done bad with it ever. The best thing abotu nasus is as long as you have steady farming, you can easily transition over to a strong lategame

Mass sunfires is better on Nasus imo. Along with your ulti it does like a millionbillion damage. Don't need triforce either I think, Atmas is better in that case in my opinion.


BTW that team captain who banned akali went 9-1-6 and carried pretty well. Weird =S


Clearly he taught you about high ELOs then.
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 04 2010 14:16 GMT
#10199
On August 04 2010 23:05 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 23:03 Iplaythings wrote:
On August 04 2010 21:48 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
There's not much of a reason to play any physical carry over Olaf if you ask me .

Garen or Udyr, maybe, but nobody carries as hard as Olaf, plus he can jungle really, really fast.

You should play nasus more >_>

Maybe it's just my elo (1300 derp derp) but sheen -> merc treads -> aegis -> adapting is usually really solid opening on him.
Havent really done bad with it ever. The best thing abotu nasus is as long as you have steady farming, you can easily transition over to a strong lategame

Mass sunfires is better on Nasus imo. Along with your ulti it does like a millionbillion damage. Don't need triforce either I think, Atmas is better in that case in my opinion.


BTW that team captain who banned akali went 9-1-6 and carried pretty well. Weird =S

usually sunfire after aegis
In the woods, there lurks..
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 04 2010 14:16 GMT
#10200
Yeah Akali should be banned
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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