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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
January 17 2013 01:47 GMT
#1461
On January 17 2013 10:35 Eishi_Ki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 06:42 Complete wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:36 Scip wrote:
You do need quite a lot of skill to win on Deity (I don't have that; I play on Immortal and even then I don't win all of the games) but you can watch some inspiring playthroughs of Maddjinn on youtube, he's really damn good at civ (also at all TBS games).


Does he have a mic in his playthroughs? Might be curious to check some out to learn some tips. Just started playing Civ5.


He does, check out the playthrough he did with Spain, I think he did a Deity domination victory vs a very fed France. Awesome display of pushing your opponent back whilst he has a tech lead

This is the one


Oh wow thanks for the link to this guy's channel. Sometimes I have no clue what I am doing and I think I'm going to learn a lot from this.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 17 2013 02:16 GMT
#1462
On January 17 2013 10:47 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 10:35 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:42 Complete wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:36 Scip wrote:
You do need quite a lot of skill to win on Deity (I don't have that; I play on Immortal and even then I don't win all of the games) but you can watch some inspiring playthroughs of Maddjinn on youtube, he's really damn good at civ (also at all TBS games).


Does he have a mic in his playthroughs? Might be curious to check some out to learn some tips. Just started playing Civ5.


He does, check out the playthrough he did with Spain, I think he did a Deity domination victory vs a very fed France. Awesome display of pushing your opponent back whilst he has a tech lead

This is the one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZdCFAirAmA&list=SPD9814D758067FA80

Oh wow thanks for the link to this guy's channel. Sometimes I have no clue what I am doing and I think I'm going to learn a lot from this.


WTF. His Liberty branch has Collective Rule on top instead of at the bottom. OP.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
January 17 2013 02:17 GMT
#1463
On January 17 2013 10:47 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 10:35 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:42 Complete wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:36 Scip wrote:
You do need quite a lot of skill to win on Deity (I don't have that; I play on Immortal and even then I don't win all of the games) but you can watch some inspiring playthroughs of Maddjinn on youtube, he's really damn good at civ (also at all TBS games).


Does he have a mic in his playthroughs? Might be curious to check some out to learn some tips. Just started playing Civ5.


He does, check out the playthrough he did with Spain, I think he did a Deity domination victory vs a very fed France. Awesome display of pushing your opponent back whilst he has a tech lead

This is the one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZdCFAirAmA&list=SPD9814D758067FA80

Oh wow thanks for the link to this guy's channel. Sometimes I have no clue what I am doing and I think I'm going to learn a lot from this.


Not a problem ^_^

That's a vanilla game from quite a while ago. The Liberty tree has changed since then so this settler-on-second-policy strat is no longer viable

I think the best display of a recent game is the Maya playthough where he goes wide-tech with an inferior religion.

Also, for general hints and tips, check out his Beyond the Monument series. It's VERY theory heavy though so be prepared to listen to a couple of Canadians talk for quite a long time hah
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
January 17 2013 02:20 GMT
#1464
On January 17 2013 03:35 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
Ugh, immortal and diety are so disgustingly difficult.

I'm getting closer to sneaking a victory... My last game I lost by ~30 turns. I just dont understand how to go up against civ's that get modern era by 1500 AD....

archer type units. the ai unless it has you outnumbered and in a shitty geographic position and its unique unit is a better version of an archer-line unit is just bad at attacking. they'll take 2-3 turns just to surround you so each turn you can pick off 1 guy and then just keep weakening each attacking unit so they cant break your city.
Imo they need to removethe multi-tile range of non-arty units and make them all like the machine-gun. Otherwise its too easy unless they just ignore you and all go for a space victory on the other side of a big map.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 17 2013 02:24 GMT
#1465
On January 17 2013 11:17 Eishi_Ki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 10:47 MoonBear wrote:
On January 17 2013 10:35 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:42 Complete wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:36 Scip wrote:
You do need quite a lot of skill to win on Deity (I don't have that; I play on Immortal and even then I don't win all of the games) but you can watch some inspiring playthroughs of Maddjinn on youtube, he's really damn good at civ (also at all TBS games).


Does he have a mic in his playthroughs? Might be curious to check some out to learn some tips. Just started playing Civ5.


He does, check out the playthrough he did with Spain, I think he did a Deity domination victory vs a very fed France. Awesome display of pushing your opponent back whilst he has a tech lead

This is the one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZdCFAirAmA&list=SPD9814D758067FA80

Oh wow thanks for the link to this guy's channel. Sometimes I have no clue what I am doing and I think I'm going to learn a lot from this.


Not a problem ^_^

That's a vanilla game from quite a while ago. The Liberty tree has changed since then so this settler-on-second-policy strat is no longer viable

I think the best display of a recent game is the Maya playthough where he goes wide-tech with an inferior religion.

Also, for general hints and tips, check out his Beyond the Monument series. It's VERY theory heavy though so be prepared to listen to a couple of Canadians talk for quite a long time hah


Ohhhh I thought Spain was added in the expansion lol. Then I saw Edinburgh as a city state.....
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 02:31:36
January 17 2013 02:28 GMT
#1466
On January 17 2013 11:24 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 11:17 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On January 17 2013 10:47 MoonBear wrote:
On January 17 2013 10:35 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:42 Complete wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:36 Scip wrote:
You do need quite a lot of skill to win on Deity (I don't have that; I play on Immortal and even then I don't win all of the games) but you can watch some inspiring playthroughs of Maddjinn on youtube, he's really damn good at civ (also at all TBS games).


Does he have a mic in his playthroughs? Might be curious to check some out to learn some tips. Just started playing Civ5.


He does, check out the playthrough he did with Spain, I think he did a Deity domination victory vs a very fed France. Awesome display of pushing your opponent back whilst he has a tech lead

This is the one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZdCFAirAmA&list=SPD9814D758067FA80

Oh wow thanks for the link to this guy's channel. Sometimes I have no clue what I am doing and I think I'm going to learn a lot from this.


Not a problem ^_^

That's a vanilla game from quite a while ago. The Liberty tree has changed since then so this settler-on-second-policy strat is no longer viable

I think the best display of a recent game is the Maya playthough where he goes wide-tech with an inferior religion.

Also, for general hints and tips, check out his Beyond the Monument series. It's VERY theory heavy though so be prepared to listen to a couple of Canadians talk for quite a long time hah


Ohhhh I thought Spain was added in the expansion lol. Then I saw Edinburgh as a city state.....


It has been but originally it was part of the New World DLC which contained Spain, the Inca, SkillDorado, Fountain of Youth and the New World scenario. I think it was released as part of the expansion so Spain could be a part of the Renaissance scenario
NbSky
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada1023 Posts
January 17 2013 20:02 GMT
#1467
I'm having difficulty on the emperor setting, I've won before but the games I've lost outnumber the games I won so I don't like to move up a difficulty setting, I play on Pangaea because of personal preference, is there any cilvilizations that have an edge in this? I've been trying Austria but then one civ feeds off another across the world and then just gets too big too fast, I'm also having trouble either with tech or military, if I focus tech I'll get bullied/killed, if I focus units I just get so far behind
Sandstorm@USEast | The Last Pride [EviL] GW2 | Nb.Sky
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
January 17 2013 20:21 GMT
#1468
On January 18 2013 05:02 NbSky wrote:
I'm having difficulty on the emperor setting, I've won before but the games I've lost outnumber the games I won so I don't like to move up a difficulty setting, I play on Pangaea because of personal preference, is there any cilvilizations that have an edge in this? I've been trying Austria but then one civ feeds off another across the world and then just gets too big too fast, I'm also having trouble either with tech or military, if I focus tech I'll get bullied/killed, if I focus units I just get so far behind


I havent really played austria so far but in general I always start war with a nearby civ relativly early. You dont have to crush them completely but kill off enough of their stuff so that they give you some resources and gold for a peace treaty. This helps keeping up with the other AIs.

In order to do that I get my second city early and go for writing and build 2 libaries to get a little boost in science. After that I focus only on military and attack either with archers and swordsmen or the special unit if I have one available that early.
Respect my authoritah!!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 17 2013 21:12 GMT
#1469
IMO (in no particular order) the following are really strong on pangaea: China, the Netherlands, Ethiopia, Russia, India.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 17 2013 22:32 GMT
#1470
On January 18 2013 05:02 NbSky wrote:
I'm having difficulty on the emperor setting, I've won before but the games I've lost outnumber the games I won so I don't like to move up a difficulty setting, I play on Pangaea because of personal preference, is there any cilvilizations that have an edge in this? I've been trying Austria but then one civ feeds off another across the world and then just gets too big too fast, I'm also having trouble either with tech or military, if I focus tech I'll get bullied/killed, if I focus units I just get so far behind

I doubt civ selection is your problem. For any difficulty at Emperor or below, most problems are the result of poor fundamentals in build/research order. Read the strategy threads over at civfanatics.com forum. You'll learn a lot about the game really fast.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 17 2013 22:35 GMT
#1471
On January 17 2013 11:16 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 10:47 MoonBear wrote:
On January 17 2013 10:35 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:42 Complete wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:36 Scip wrote:
You do need quite a lot of skill to win on Deity (I don't have that; I play on Immortal and even then I don't win all of the games) but you can watch some inspiring playthroughs of Maddjinn on youtube, he's really damn good at civ (also at all TBS games).


Does he have a mic in his playthroughs? Might be curious to check some out to learn some tips. Just started playing Civ5.


He does, check out the playthrough he did with Spain, I think he did a Deity domination victory vs a very fed France. Awesome display of pushing your opponent back whilst he has a tech lead

This is the one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZdCFAirAmA&list=SPD9814D758067FA80

Oh wow thanks for the link to this guy's channel. Sometimes I have no clue what I am doing and I think I'm going to learn a lot from this.


WTF. His Liberty branch has Collective Rule on top instead of at the bottom. OP.

Must be a pre-G&K replay. Most players open tradition now unless they have some special UU they want to abuse early.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 18 2013 01:04 GMT
#1472
On January 18 2013 07:35 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 11:16 Sufficiency wrote:
On January 17 2013 10:47 MoonBear wrote:
On January 17 2013 10:35 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:42 Complete wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:36 Scip wrote:
You do need quite a lot of skill to win on Deity (I don't have that; I play on Immortal and even then I don't win all of the games) but you can watch some inspiring playthroughs of Maddjinn on youtube, he's really damn good at civ (also at all TBS games).


Does he have a mic in his playthroughs? Might be curious to check some out to learn some tips. Just started playing Civ5.


He does, check out the playthrough he did with Spain, I think he did a Deity domination victory vs a very fed France. Awesome display of pushing your opponent back whilst he has a tech lead

This is the one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZdCFAirAmA&list=SPD9814D758067FA80

Oh wow thanks for the link to this guy's channel. Sometimes I have no clue what I am doing and I think I'm going to learn a lot from this.


WTF. His Liberty branch has Collective Rule on top instead of at the bottom. OP.

Must be a pre-G&K replay. Most players open tradition now unless they have some special UU they want to abuse early.


Really? I think Tradition is kind of useless unless you are doing cultural victory.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
January 18 2013 02:10 GMT
#1473
I normally try and go for 4 or 5 cities of my own so Tradition is perfect for my needs. The free aqueducts are simply immense.

I think the Celts are my favourite Civ (not biased l0l), it's really easy to get a religion up and going which can majorly contribute early game to whatever VC you're going for. The four core cities with big pops due to Tradition and a strong religion can really propel your tech so you can reach cannons and start fighting back.

Something I disagree with though, starting wars. I almost never start wars as there are major diplomatic penalties for doing so. I normally get DoW'd on and following my beating back of the initial attack, jump at the AI's lack of defended cities and start pushing hard with military and religion. If you can get a couple of allies to join you, the more the merrier.

One of the keys to surviving early game is simply being prepared for who will DoW you. Greece, France, Rome, Spain, Huns, Aztecs in your game? Shore up the defenses and get some archers, it's gonna get rough
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 03:16:58
January 18 2013 03:16 GMT
#1474
Speaking of the Huns, one game I was neighboured by one who immediately hostiled upon meeting me and he seemed to have plenty of units, so I prepared to defend his rush.... then it never came.... then turn 60ish he completed the stone hedge... "wtf?", I thought. Very soon he was also able to found his religion, built great mosque of djinn, ENHANCED his religion, and spreading it everywhere while having only 3 horse archers and a handful of battle rams in his capital.

Attila the troll.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 18 2013 03:16 GMT
#1475
On January 18 2013 10:04 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 07:35 xDaunt wrote:
On January 17 2013 11:16 Sufficiency wrote:
On January 17 2013 10:47 MoonBear wrote:
On January 17 2013 10:35 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:42 Complete wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:36 Scip wrote:
You do need quite a lot of skill to win on Deity (I don't have that; I play on Immortal and even then I don't win all of the games) but you can watch some inspiring playthroughs of Maddjinn on youtube, he's really damn good at civ (also at all TBS games).


Does he have a mic in his playthroughs? Might be curious to check some out to learn some tips. Just started playing Civ5.


He does, check out the playthrough he did with Spain, I think he did a Deity domination victory vs a very fed France. Awesome display of pushing your opponent back whilst he has a tech lead

This is the one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZdCFAirAmA&list=SPD9814D758067FA80

Oh wow thanks for the link to this guy's channel. Sometimes I have no clue what I am doing and I think I'm going to learn a lot from this.


WTF. His Liberty branch has Collective Rule on top instead of at the bottom. OP.

Must be a pre-G&K replay. Most players open tradition now unless they have some special UU they want to abuse early.


Really? I think Tradition is kind of useless unless you are doing cultural victory.

Four city tradition openers are very strong. Basically, the goal is to have four cities and national college before turn 100. It positions you very well for the mid game. With your four core cities up, you can then continue to expand either peacefully (if land is open) or with a medieval war.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 03:18:24
January 18 2013 03:17 GMT
#1476
On January 18 2013 12:16 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 10:04 Sufficiency wrote:
On January 18 2013 07:35 xDaunt wrote:
On January 17 2013 11:16 Sufficiency wrote:
On January 17 2013 10:47 MoonBear wrote:
On January 17 2013 10:35 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:42 Complete wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:36 Scip wrote:
You do need quite a lot of skill to win on Deity (I don't have that; I play on Immortal and even then I don't win all of the games) but you can watch some inspiring playthroughs of Maddjinn on youtube, he's really damn good at civ (also at all TBS games).


Does he have a mic in his playthroughs? Might be curious to check some out to learn some tips. Just started playing Civ5.


He does, check out the playthrough he did with Spain, I think he did a Deity domination victory vs a very fed France. Awesome display of pushing your opponent back whilst he has a tech lead

This is the one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZdCFAirAmA&list=SPD9814D758067FA80

Oh wow thanks for the link to this guy's channel. Sometimes I have no clue what I am doing and I think I'm going to learn a lot from this.


WTF. His Liberty branch has Collective Rule on top instead of at the bottom. OP.

Must be a pre-G&K replay. Most players open tradition now unless they have some special UU they want to abuse early.


Really? I think Tradition is kind of useless unless you are doing cultural victory.

Four city tradition openers are very strong. Basically, the goal is to have four cities and national college before turn 100. It positions you very well for the mid game. With your four core cities up, you can then continue to expand either peacefully (if land is open) or with a medieval war.


Why not 4 city open with Liberty? It's so much faster. You will also be more versatile later on because you can found/steal future cities more easily.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
NbSky
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada1023 Posts
January 18 2013 03:46 GMT
#1477
Thanks for the tips!
Sandstorm@USEast | The Last Pride [EviL] GW2 | Nb.Sky
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 18 2013 05:03 GMT
#1478
On January 18 2013 12:17 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 12:16 xDaunt wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:04 Sufficiency wrote:
On January 18 2013 07:35 xDaunt wrote:
On January 17 2013 11:16 Sufficiency wrote:
On January 17 2013 10:47 MoonBear wrote:
On January 17 2013 10:35 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:42 Complete wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:36 Scip wrote:
You do need quite a lot of skill to win on Deity (I don't have that; I play on Immortal and even then I don't win all of the games) but you can watch some inspiring playthroughs of Maddjinn on youtube, he's really damn good at civ (also at all TBS games).


Does he have a mic in his playthroughs? Might be curious to check some out to learn some tips. Just started playing Civ5.


He does, check out the playthrough he did with Spain, I think he did a Deity domination victory vs a very fed France. Awesome display of pushing your opponent back whilst he has a tech lead

This is the one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZdCFAirAmA&list=SPD9814D758067FA80

Oh wow thanks for the link to this guy's channel. Sometimes I have no clue what I am doing and I think I'm going to learn a lot from this.


WTF. His Liberty branch has Collective Rule on top instead of at the bottom. OP.

Must be a pre-G&K replay. Most players open tradition now unless they have some special UU they want to abuse early.


Really? I think Tradition is kind of useless unless you are doing cultural victory.

Four city tradition openers are very strong. Basically, the goal is to have four cities and national college before turn 100. It positions you very well for the mid game. With your four core cities up, you can then continue to expand either peacefully (if land is open) or with a medieval war.


Why not 4 city open with Liberty? It's so much faster. You will also be more versatile later on because you can found/steal future cities more easily.


Tradition gives you much better vertical growth, which is far important on the higher difficulties than horizontal expansion.
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 06:12:14
January 18 2013 06:11 GMT
#1479
Yes, it's true you get four liberty cities faster, but four tradition cities are stronger than the sum of their parts. You'll also be set up in terms of growth and culture as well as being better defended and due to the increased number of citizens, have better production.

Anymore than 5 cities pre turn 100 and you're asking for trouble

Remember, the only true limiting factor in civ 5 is your beaker output. Getting NC up is far more important than territory
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
January 18 2013 06:24 GMT
#1480
Do you lose happiness or anything by declaring war on somebody?

Big power on the map just asked me to declare war with them on someone very far away from me and I don't want to piss them off ;o not sure what to do.
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