Patch is great, agree the city states seem to take a while now, probably because the AI is so much quicker at its turns thank god! Finally having a go at a huge map on epic speed rather than large and standard.

Immortal has got way harder too, everyone's a complete (even more so) nutjob early game it seems!

Armagedda

Australia1 Post

November 20 2012 14:46 GMT

#1324

Immortal has got way harder too, everyone's a complete (even more so) nutjob early game it seems!

Haha, check out this game my mates and I were playing on deity, the Aztecs were soooo aggressive. It was pretty funny. We ended up losing, partly due to some gumby setting I put on but yeah. The AIs can get pretty agro on you.

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

November 20 2012 14:48 GMT

#1325

They're still patching this game OO:

{CC}StealthBlue

United States41117 Posts

November 21 2012 23:55 GMT

#1326

Hotfix released:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=12010233#post12010233

Kamikiri

United States1319 Posts

November 22 2012 01:27 GMT

#1327

On November 22 2012 08:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Hotfix released:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=12010233#post12010233

Thanks a lot for posting this, and when you showed me the previous patch notes. It really helped and I have been watching those forums a lot.

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

November 22 2012 01:39 GMT

#1328

StealthBlue is the strategy overseer of this Sports & Games section (:

lynx.oblige

Sierra Leone2268 Posts

November 22 2012 02:10 GMT

#1329

Expo is on GMG for ~$8!

Slackzftw

Germany361 Posts

November 22 2012 04:30 GMT

#1330

I bought it at Release for 20$ and it was worth it. But haven't played it in a long time, because I have so many Games on my List. I just can't stop buying good Games if they are cheap or just really good.

I wonder what Firaxis is doing right now. Since the Expo, there was no DLC or any News at all.

SinCitta

Germany2127 Posts

November 25 2012 22:34 GMT

#1331

I wonder if G&K is worth it in the Steam Sale. I bought Civ V vanilla after playing the demo and universal good ratings in the press. Although I put a lot of hours into it, I was kinda disappointed. It was the first game I bought from the series and I don't know if G&K changes stuff to the better or if the whole Civ series is not my style.

- Couldn't do much in diplomacy and couldn't comprehend AI actions. I felt that it wasn't rewarding to have allies and I couldn't get long-term allies because AI acted so randomly.
- No scenarios in vanilla. The game doesn't feel very "historic" like e.g. Age of Empires 2. You tech so fast through all the epochs.
- I don't know if I played it right, but combat was just the AI mass suiciding his army while I was only teching to armies that roflstomp everything.
- Gameplay wasn't very diverse for me - I never felt that choosing between culture, expansion, tech, war led to different, exciting and equally potent styles of gameplay.
- Lategame slowed down the game despite my computer having decent specs. Also, I think the game didn't get more exciting as my empire was growing.

~~ Maybe I just play the game wrongly? Don't know, maybe I was expecting something more like a Master of Orion 2.

ThaZenith

Canada3116 Posts

November 26 2012 00:50 GMT

#1332

Got Civ5 + G&K now that they're finally both 75% off. Civ games are always fun for me, and this is no exception. In my first game, looks like I should be nuking them before most of them manage to get any gunpowder units. Maybe a higher difficulty for the next round. >.>

iPlaY.NettleS

Australia4415 Posts

December 31 2012 00:39 GMT

#1333

Bought it a couple days ago for 50% off, i think it's still 50 off till Jan 6.
G&K does improve the game, if civ 5 allowed culture creep and flip of cities like civ 4 and the AI could also be a little less one dimensional.It's also a little too hard to manage happiness if you start conquering enemy cities or just like building huge number of cities.Apart from that it's a great game.

Yaqoob

Canada3386 Posts

December 31 2012 00:45 GMT

#1334

G&K is $4.49 right now @ --> Green Man Gaming <-- and if you use coupon code GMG30-DPLIM-DN831 you get 30% off so your basically getting the game for 3.00 USD

Charger

United States2405 Posts

January 02 2013 20:18 GMT

#1335

Is the GotY edition worth the extra 10 USD over vanilla ($15 vanilla / $25 goty)? Also G&K for 15 USD a good buy? (All prices via Steam)

I haven't played a Civ game in ages but I'm looking to get back into the series.

Eishi_Ki

Korea (South)1667 Posts

January 02 2013 20:26 GMT

#1336

On January 03 2013 05:18 Charger wrote:
Is the GotY edition worth the extra 10 USD over vanilla ($15 vanilla / $25 goty)? Also G&K for 15 USD a good buy? (All prices via Steam)

I haven't played a Civ game in ages but I'm looking to get back into the series.

Yes yes, very much worth it

Excalibur_Z

United States12246 Posts

January 02 2013 21:07 GMT

#1337

My early impressions of Gods & Kings:

- Espionage is extremely weakly implemented. I really miss Diplomat/Spy units and although the direct Espionage menu plays well with the direct Diplomacy between nations, it basically becomes a glorified progress bar screen. All your spies can do is steal tech or thwart enemy spies who are trying to steal tech? There's so much that can be done with this, it's really a shame that it's so barebones.

- I don't really understand the Religion concept. I thought it would be more of a pseudo-espionage thing (like religious subversion) but it seems all it does is give your civ growth bonuses. Is there more to Religion than I'm seeing? While Faith kind of seems "nice to have" it doesn't feel like something anyone should actually invest in, and the maintenance costs of Temples and Shrines really add up. Sure, you can have some extra Happiness or Faith or Culture here and there, but there doesn't seem to be anything that has a direct impact on rivals as a result of your more influential religion.

- City-States are way more interesting now. I love how varied they are both in terms of quests offered and types/personalities. This was a fantastic enhancement over vanilla Civ5 where they just sort of... existed.

- Austria's City-State absorbing perk is incredible. City-States always take such good care of their cities (in terms of improvements built) and you get all their units too. I picked up the expansion after the balance patch that nerfed Austria's bonus, and I can't imagine how powerful it was in its earlier incarnation.

Fun game overall. Civ lives again at my place. Really interested to see future patches from Firaxis.

Brindled

United States508 Posts

January 02 2013 21:22 GMT

#1338

On January 03 2013 06:07 Excalibur_Z wrote:
My early impressions of Gods & Kings:

- Espionage is extremely weakly implemented. I really miss Diplomat/Spy units and although the direct Espionage menu plays well with the direct Diplomacy between nations, it basically becomes a glorified progress bar screen. All your spies can do is steal tech or thwart enemy spies who are trying to steal tech? There's so much that can be done with this, it's really a shame that it's so barebones.

- I don't really understand the Religion concept. I thought it would be more of a pseudo-espionage thing (like religious subversion) but it seems all it does is give your civ growth bonuses. Is there more to Religion than I'm seeing? While Faith kind of seems "nice to have" it doesn't feel like something anyone should actually invest in, and the maintenance costs of Temples and Shrines really add up. Sure, you can have some extra Happiness or Faith or Culture here and there, but there doesn't seem to be anything that has a direct impact on rivals as a result of your more influential religion.

- City-States are way more interesting now. I love how varied they are both in terms of quests offered and types/personalities. This was a fantastic enhancement over vanilla Civ5 where they just sort of... existed.

- Austria's City-State absorbing perk is incredible. City-States always take such good care of their cities (in terms of improvements built) and you get all their units too. I picked up the expansion after the balance patch that nerfed Austria's bonus, and I can't imagine how powerful it was in its earlier incarnation.

Fun game overall. Civ lives again at my place. Really interested to see future patches from Firaxis.

I agree with everything you say except the religion concept.
The +Faith for certain tiles or Luxury perks + Pilgrimage (+faith for +1 Faith for each foreign city following this religion)+ Holy Warriors (buy units with faith) + Defender of the Faith (combat bonus nearby cities of same religion) makes for a hyper aggressive crusade war machine that can get you to quickly knock out rivals in the early game if you spread your religion to rivals quickly!

killy666

France204 Posts

January 02 2013 21:53 GMT

#1339

You can get secrets (about their attack plans for exemple) and influence city state too with spies.

MiyaviTeddy

Canada697 Posts

January 03 2013 19:34 GMT

#1340

Since my favourite RTS is SC, WC3 and Dune 2000, is Civ 5 is worth getting? what about G&K?. Its on sale right now and I want to know if its better to play multiplayer on civ 5 alone or G&K (if there is multiplayer).