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Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
January 07 2010 20:55 GMT
#661
eXd5
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 07 2010 20:55 GMT
#662
On January 08 2010 05:31 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 05:19 citi.zen wrote:
I don't see many ways out of a draw here.

+ Show Spoiler +

Theres plenty of ways out of a draw here. We have a queenside pawn majority which I'm hoping we can convert to a passed pawn or two. Black just has to play very carefully if he wants the draw.


+ Show Spoiler +
I agree with those saying we have a good defensive position, yet it comes with no clear attacking options. Black is also in decent shape positionally, I am not sure I would say we have a queen side pawn "majority".

Either way I guess we will keep going for a few more moves, I just don't see any viable lines of attack short of a major blunder from one side.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 07 2010 20:57 GMT
#663
I guess i forgot to vote...

exd5, for the sake of opening things up a bit.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
January 07 2010 21:01 GMT
#664
Incognito

sure thing buddy,

I love your signature by the way haha...
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chessmaster
Profile Joined November 2009
United States268 Posts
January 07 2010 21:40 GMT
#665
as far as me cheating not sure about that ...i was never voting merely providing analysis , but i didint read the rules and i not mean to violate any of them .. as i said it was more out of laziness ,, as i am stronger than the engine i own on my quad core system anyway i wasnt voting anyway so problem solved no more anaaysis ,, i wouldnt give it without an engine at this point out the rude way you assumed me to intentionaly be cheating or telling me to leave without informing me of the rules and continuing nicely from there.. i don know what it is about poeple that search out confrontation ..i was merely trying to help and have some fun . for those of you that found my eval informing sorry but this isnt worth it .. i was putting my own time for free i may add into this.. this well wisher can have his little forum
the beauty of a move is not in its appearance but the thought behind it ... nimzovitch
chessmaster
Profile Joined November 2009
United States268 Posts
January 07 2010 21:48 GMT
#666
for those of you that would actually like to play a master .. maybe i will organize chess mach 3 or 4 ..
and being a correspondence game bring your engines on ,, i'[m not scared of them .. but i would ask you use them to explore not plagiarize ,, or feel wecome to use books or any other means .. the main point would not be me winning for ego purposes .. but learning for the forum .. of course in depth analysis would follow the match. .. ps. the irony here is so thick lmao
the beauty of a move is not in its appearance but the thought behind it ... nimzovitch
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
January 07 2010 21:59 GMT
#667
Why would you NOT read the rules before participating?
You would be soooo screwed in so many situations in life if you did that.
chessmaster
Profile Joined November 2009
United States268 Posts
January 07 2010 22:05 GMT
#668
obviously that was a misatke .. i wasn't tried to hide it because the way i analyze it never occure to me to think of it as cheating in a correspondence game i figured it would be an hono system meaning dun plagiarize the machine use your own thoughts .. anyway i apologize to those i offended it was unintentional ...but i think athos and whoever else was very rude in the way they handled it ,, and good luck getting someone of my strength her e again putting in work for free
the beauty of a move is not in its appearance but the thought behind it ... nimzovitch
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 07 2010 22:06 GMT
#669
For what its worth: thanks, but no thanks Master.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
chessmaster
Profile Joined November 2009
United States268 Posts
January 07 2010 22:09 GMT
#670
p.s i will start my own thread archangel ir any one else you can play there ..
the beauty of a move is not in its appearance but the thought behind it ... nimzovitch
chessmaster
Profile Joined November 2009
United States268 Posts
January 07 2010 22:15 GMT
#671
where ia welcome you to use any form of help you can this is for fun not money
the beauty of a move is not in its appearance but the thought behind it ... nimzovitch
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-08 00:00:56
January 07 2010 23:57 GMT
#672
Chessmaster, you have to understand that this is a Starcraft community and not a Chess community. What makes us all united is that our love of progaming brought us here. You on the other hand have no posts outside of this thread yet come here bragging about how gosu you are at chess. You know what though, we have some good players too, one's who are more humble than you.

The reality is that now that we know you use computers in your analysis we don't want it. We here on TL have zero-tolerance for cheaters. Just because you used a computer out of laziness doesn't mean it's not cheating. In fact, convenience was the reason most of the TSL2 abusers gave as there excuse for cheating in the TSL2 ladder. It's probably the oldest excuse in the book. You have no reason to complain about banishment because you were never an established member of this community anyways. And hey, a 2500 like you can probably just go troll some chess corespondent websites.
TwilightStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States649 Posts
January 08 2010 00:02 GMT
#673
I play chess on Chess.com, my username is Vis-USEast

Anyone who wants to play me, add me to your list and lets gogogo! :D
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proberecall
Profile Joined August 2009
United States104 Posts
January 08 2010 00:27 GMT
#674
Chessmaster who cares if you defeat engines, who cares how good you are, in fact nobody here cares how good anyone is except you. If you really are a master then what are you doing wasting your time here with us amateurs and newbies. Go schedule a match against Carlsen or something. Go someplace else and leave us alone.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 08 2010 02:48 GMT
#675
PS: bragging is a LOT more impressive when you learn proper spelling, syntax and punctuation. No offense, but you write at 3rd grade level. You may or may not be a master or just a kid with a chess engine, the truth is I don't care. Whatever the case, your "analysis" was always borderline incoherent and riddled with mistakes.

/end rant
/sorry thread!
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 08 2010 03:36 GMT
#676
22. Rd4

+ Show Spoiler +
Allows us to put a lot of pressure on Black's position. Don't forget that exd5 is an option for us. We respond to Bxd5 with Nc3, and Black's position looks more precarious.
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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
January 08 2010 04:31 GMT
#677
On January 08 2010 12:36 Mystlord wrote:
22. Rd4

+ Show Spoiler +
Allows us to put a lot of pressure on Black's position. Don't forget that exd5 is an option for us. We respond to Bxd5 with Nc3, and Black's position looks more precarious.


+ Show Spoiler +
What about after 22. ... Bf7 23. ... e6? Immediate taking is probably better.
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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
January 08 2010 04:31 GMT
#678
On January 08 2010 05:55 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 05:31 Incognito wrote:
On January 08 2010 05:19 citi.zen wrote:
I don't see many ways out of a draw here.

+ Show Spoiler +

Theres plenty of ways out of a draw here. We have a queenside pawn majority which I'm hoping we can convert to a passed pawn or two. Black just has to play very carefully if he wants the draw.


+ Show Spoiler +
I agree with those saying we have a good defensive position, yet it comes with no clear attacking options. Black is also in decent shape positionally, I am not sure I would say we have a queen side pawn "majority".

Either way I guess we will keep going for a few more moves, I just don't see any viable lines of attack short of a major blunder from one side.


+ Show Spoiler +

A queenside pawn majority means that we outnumber black's queenside pawns. We have 3 pawns, the a, b, and c pawns, vs. black's 2, the a and c pawns. Therefore, we have a queenside pawn majority. In the endgame, having pawn majorities like this is very useful, as you can hopefully be able to create a passed pawn that black has to defend against. In this case, the plan is to play a4 and b4-b5 to challenge black's c-pawn and get a passed pawn. All our play should happen in the queenside unless black tries to do something in the center.
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Ikari
Profile Joined April 2007
United States176 Posts
January 08 2010 05:20 GMT
#679
On January 08 2010 13:31 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 12:36 Mystlord wrote:
22. Rd4

+ Show Spoiler +
Allows us to put a lot of pressure on Black's position. Don't forget that exd5 is an option for us. We respond to Bxd5 with Nc3, and Black's position looks more precarious.


+ Show Spoiler +
What about after 22. ... Bf7 23. ... e6? Immediate taking is probably better.

+ Show Spoiler +
Do you mean 22.Rd4 Bf7 23.exd5 e6?? 24.dxc6 Nxc6 or another line?
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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-08 06:03:18
January 08 2010 05:39 GMT
#680
On January 08 2010 14:20 Ikari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 13:31 Incognito wrote:
On January 08 2010 12:36 Mystlord wrote:
22. Rd4

+ Show Spoiler +
Allows us to put a lot of pressure on Black's position. Don't forget that exd5 is an option for us. We respond to Bxd5 with Nc3, and Black's position looks more precarious.


+ Show Spoiler +
What about after 22. ... Bf7 23. ... e6? Immediate taking is probably better.

+ Show Spoiler +
Do you mean 22.Rd4 Bf7 23.exd5 e6?? 24.dxc6 Nxc6 or another line?


+ Show Spoiler +

If 23. exd5, then cxd5 because then 24. Nc3 is met by e6. Right now black can't take with the pawn because Nc3 wins a pawn for white. Hmm I wasn't thinking that white would immediately take after Rd4 though. I was thinking 23. Nc3, but that would be the mistake. Rd4 is playable if 23. exd5.

However I think 22. exd5 Bxd5 23. Nc3 Be6 24. Re1 followed by 25. Bf1/Ba6 is better for white. The idea is that we line up our rooks on the e-file and attack black's minor pieces. They can't be defended with pawns and they don't defend each other, so they have to be defended by rooks or moved. Except the knight can't be moved after 26. Rde2 because other wise the bishop hangs. A passive black = a happy white.

If 23. ... Bf7 24. Ne4 Rf5 25. Rd4 Bd5 26. Nc3 is good for white White plans to play g4 to force the rook to move or the pawn to take en passant. Lots of tactical goodies here for white. If 23. ... Bg8, 24. Ba6 to threaten to go after the c6 pawn, followed by 25. Re1 and Rde2 to pile up on the knight.


Vote for 22. exd5.
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