EPTThe Kings of TvP & Their Innovations - Page 4
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13295 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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clazziquai
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
macro-oriented players focus more on expansion timing and solidity, relying on their macro being stronger than their opponent and their harassment defense being good enough to reach critical mass before their opponent can deal with it that's a really simplistic explanation because starcraft has much more depth to it, but that's the easiest way to explain it | ||
ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
Boxer is almost purely micro-oriented. He wins games by controlling his units really really well, he can do amazing things that other players, even progamers, can't do, and he can win games with his unit control. Oov is almost purely macro-oriented. His main way of winning games is producing more units than his opponents, and his way of doing this is taking more expansions, defending better and when the time is right move out with a large army to defeat his opponent. In-game example: Boxer will face a zerg with 12 marines and a few medics and control them insanely well to kill many many zerg units. Oov is the same sitation is likely to use 36 marines with medics and overpower the zerg head on. | ||
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Polar
Swaziland274 Posts
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RaGe
Belgium9949 Posts
On December 04 2007 11:00 Polar wrote: Pouvez-vous la traduire? that wouldnt be in order with the ten commandments. also im not a frenchspeaking belgian, eventhough my knowledge of french is probably enough to translate it and yeah mainly: im lazy as fuck | ||
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saranghaeCY-
United States446 Posts
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Zajoman
Slovakia16 Posts
On December 04 2007 10:38 ToKoreaWithLove wrote: I'm like an addict. Everytime someone mentions a famous game of past, I feel this intensive need to go watch it right away. And unless I do so, I have no peace in my mind. So a good article like this one and its comments can take me a night, let me tell you.st.Eagle was once said to be the best terran in the world, much based on his great metal usage, but calling him the inventor would be hard to defend. Nowadays he is probably most famous for that fantastic game vs Garimto on silentvortex during sky 2002. Anyway, are you sure it was Sky 2002? I can't find the game. EDIT: I found it here. | ||
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ATeddyBear
Canada2843 Posts
 TLPD has everything http://teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/6834_GARIMTO_vs_St.Eagle | ||
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SayTT
Sweden2158 Posts
On December 04 2007 08:10 RaGe wrote: eventhough boxer had some innovative strategies for TvP over the years, he never revolutionized something in TvP. He invented TvZ in its entirety though haha The "boxer-drop" with 1 fact, starport 2 tanks with siege drop. But maybe it wasn't big enough. | ||
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
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Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
On December 04 2007 04:26 ATeddyBear wrote: What about shadow rush p.s awesome article, potential final edit  Ahahahahahaha | ||
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Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
On December 04 2007 13:03 Dromar wrote: Enjoyable read. TvP is my favorite matchup to watch and play. Same here! I loooooooooooooooove PvT :D The new style of PvT seems so mechanical so it's nice for a lazy player like me to remain competent even when not playing.  | ||
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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11554 Posts
However, kickass thread. I lose to FD too much D: | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
Just a comment on the Oov vs. Reach game, I thought the only reason why Oov lost his macro war was because a few of his 10 factories did not produce because they were so tightly packed. He got the unit exit blocked error instead of receiving units. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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Overlord
Romania651 Posts
On December 04 2007 10:38 ToKoreaWithLove wrote: Hearcutter's deep six, while rather silly-looking these days, was a nice strat to counter early protoss. Now I've never heard of that, care to explain? Also, I'm pretty sure metal usage was invented pre1.08. I remember watching replays when 1.08 came out, and wondering what could protoss do against that  I also remember reading a tvp guide pre1.08 written by a (german?) player called Thor, who was considered among the best back then iirc, which described metal usage. | ||
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