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Vandrad
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany951 Posts
August 11 2012 23:35 GMT
#48681
On August 12 2012 07:18 EsMuyVien wrote:
Holy cow, IdrA so hilarious on DeMuslim's stream! Hahaha!


yeah :D he just said his trademark "god-awful"
And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low?
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
August 12 2012 01:16 GMT
#48682
Greg is single! gogogogo
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
August 12 2012 17:37 GMT
#48683
Stream was hilarious
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Zythus
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland184 Posts
August 12 2012 19:03 GMT
#48684
"Bling's sister is gorgeous"
IdrA gracking!
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
August 12 2012 19:48 GMT
#48685
wait when was stream / was there VOD?
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Kyrao
Profile Joined July 2010
United States161 Posts
August 12 2012 20:15 GMT
#48686
On August 11 2012 12:38 GinDo wrote:
Idra is an amazing player. His mechanic are top notch.

He's just not playing the game right T_T. You can't keep throwing that many units.

Idra may not be my favorite player, but I know he works hard and practices alot, and it's sad to see him not win.

EDIT: And oh yeah, 100% agree on Idras comment Ingame. To bad DB doesn't.


As an old fan of his, I feel Idra is still stuck in the BW mentality that mechanics win games, period. His mechanics are really good, but his decision making is just terrible. How many times have you seen him max out on a great army and then just a-move it into a deathball to get absolutely slaughtered? It happens all the time, often followed by "Idra has left the game."

His awesome mechanics were the reason he was "King of the Beta" when macro was 95% of the game back then. But since that time, he just hasn't been able to scale as well as other players, who are all constantly improving, because he's so content claiming "imbalance!" even as we all watch ZvZ grand finals. I honestly wonder how he justifies his mentality when people like Stephano opening say Zerg is overpowered. Someone should seriously make a montage of "zerg engagements," half from Idra and the other half from Stephano. I almost guarentee that you would quite easily be able to tell the difference between who is who.

As much as I hate to admit it, I don't see Idra ever coming back out on top. He will continue to be that guy who tournies invite to play simply because so many people enjoy watching him lose, eagerly waiting for the bm he is so well known for.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
August 12 2012 20:23 GMT
#48687
On August 13 2012 05:15 Kyrao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 12:38 GinDo wrote:
Idra is an amazing player. His mechanic are top notch.

He's just not playing the game right T_T. You can't keep throwing that many units.

Idra may not be my favorite player, but I know he works hard and practices alot, and it's sad to see him not win.

EDIT: And oh yeah, 100% agree on Idras comment Ingame. To bad DB doesn't.


As an old fan of his, I feel Idra is still stuck in the BW mentality that mechanics win games, period. His mechanics are really good, but his decision making is just terrible. How many times have you seen him max out on a great army and then just a-move it into a deathball to get absolutely slaughtered? It happens all the time, often followed by "Idra has left the game."

His awesome mechanics were the reason he was "King of the Beta" when macro was 95% of the game back then. But since that time, he just hasn't been able to scale as well as other players, who are all constantly improving, because he's so content claiming "imbalance!" even as we all watch ZvZ grand finals. I honestly wonder how he justifies his mentality when people like Stephano opening say Zerg is overpowered. Someone should seriously make a montage of "zerg engagements," half from Idra and the other half from Stephano. I almost guarentee that you would quite easily be able to tell the difference between who is who.

As much as I hate to admit it, I don't see Idra ever coming back out on top. He will continue to be that guy who tournies invite to play simply because so many people enjoy watching him lose, eagerly waiting for the bm he is so well known for.

I think this comment would be more fitting when it actually seemed to be the case. right now i think pretty much everything in this comment is bullshit, especially considering Idra's rate of improvement recently
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
August 12 2012 20:57 GMT
#48688
On August 13 2012 05:15 Kyrao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 12:38 GinDo wrote:
Idra is an amazing player. His mechanic are top notch.

He's just not playing the game right T_T. You can't keep throwing that many units.

Idra may not be my favorite player, but I know he works hard and practices alot, and it's sad to see him not win.

EDIT: And oh yeah, 100% agree on Idras comment Ingame. To bad DB doesn't.


As an old fan of his, I feel Idra is still stuck in the BW mentality that mechanics win games, period. His mechanics are really good, but his decision making is just terrible. How many times have you seen him max out on a great army and then just a-move it into a deathball to get absolutely slaughtered? It happens all the time, often followed by "Idra has left the game."

His awesome mechanics were the reason he was "King of the Beta" when macro was 95% of the game back then. But since that time, he just hasn't been able to scale as well as other players, who are all constantly improving, because he's so content claiming "imbalance!" even as we all watch ZvZ grand finals. I honestly wonder how he justifies his mentality when people like Stephano opening say Zerg is overpowered. Someone should seriously make a montage of "zerg engagements," half from Idra and the other half from Stephano. I almost guarentee that you would quite easily be able to tell the difference between who is who.

As much as I hate to admit it, I don't see Idra ever coming back out on top. He will continue to be that guy who tournies invite to play simply because so many people enjoy watching him lose, eagerly waiting for the bm he is so well known for.

bullshit, youre around 6 months late
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
kingtut
Profile Joined June 2011
United States359 Posts
August 12 2012 21:05 GMT
#48689
lol the guy thinks he is never seeing idra coming back.. about 4 months ago idra was getting knocked out 6-0 in every tournament he entered. recently ever since hsc he has been taking games and not being absolutely embarrassed. idra's improvement recently is very good and yes, he will come back.
Kyrao
Profile Joined July 2010
United States161 Posts
August 12 2012 21:06 GMT
#48690
On August 13 2012 05:23 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 05:15 Kyrao wrote:
On August 11 2012 12:38 GinDo wrote:
Idra is an amazing player. His mechanic are top notch.

He's just not playing the game right T_T. You can't keep throwing that many units.

Idra may not be my favorite player, but I know he works hard and practices alot, and it's sad to see him not win.

EDIT: And oh yeah, 100% agree on Idras comment Ingame. To bad DB doesn't.


As an old fan of his, I feel Idra is still stuck in the BW mentality that mechanics win games, period. His mechanics are really good, but his decision making is just terrible. How many times have you seen him max out on a great army and then just a-move it into a deathball to get absolutely slaughtered? It happens all the time, often followed by "Idra has left the game."

His awesome mechanics were the reason he was "King of the Beta" when macro was 95% of the game back then. But since that time, he just hasn't been able to scale as well as other players, who are all constantly improving, because he's so content claiming "imbalance!" even as we all watch ZvZ grand finals. I honestly wonder how he justifies his mentality when people like Stephano opening say Zerg is overpowered. Someone should seriously make a montage of "zerg engagements," half from Idra and the other half from Stephano. I almost guarentee that you would quite easily be able to tell the difference between who is who.

As much as I hate to admit it, I don't see Idra ever coming back out on top. He will continue to be that guy who tournies invite to play simply because so many people enjoy watching him lose, eagerly waiting for the bm he is so well known for.

I think this comment would be more fitting when it actually seemed to be the case. right now i think pretty much everything in this comment is bullshit, especially considering Idra's rate of improvement recently


Apparently you missed his most recent NASL4 qualifier appearance... unless by "bullshit" you simply mean inconvenient and counter to what you wish to be the case. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Then again, please be more specific about his recent rate of improvement. I don't follow him 100%, so I could be missing something. But from what I've seen, my comments are still quite fitting.
Kyrao
Profile Joined July 2010
United States161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 21:28:15
August 12 2012 21:12 GMT
#48691
On August 13 2012 06:05 kingtut wrote:
lol the guy thinks he is never seeing idra coming back.. about 4 months ago idra was getting knocked out 6-0 in every tournament he entered. recently ever since hsc he has been taking games and not being absolutely embarrassed. idra's improvement recently is very good and yes, he will come back.


So this "recent improvement" is him not being "absolutely embarrassed?"

Edit:
To clarify my statement about Idra never being "back on top" I'm speaking from the context of his past accomplishments (I know, how harsh of me to criticize based on his previous accomplishments...but that's the point I'm trying to make). I honestly don't see him getting back to Code S quality, or even the semis of any major event that isn't restricted to only NA players. His last notable finish in the past 9 months was 4th at WCS USA.

I'm not saying Idra isn't good. He would probably wreck the in the CSL. I'm just saying, as much as I didn't want to admit it, he's never going to be back to his former glory. He peaked a long time ago.
Lokerek
Profile Joined December 2011
United States441 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 21:16:57
August 12 2012 21:16 GMT
#48692
Stop attacking the guy just because he disagrees with you.

Kyrao makes a good point about mechanics. It is true, especially back in ZvPs
where Roach Hydra Corruptor was the standard and Idra's great macro allowed him
to crush the opponents.

Coming back on top right now is becoming more and more impossible for foreigners.
However coming back on top of foreigners is within his reach.

If he goes to Korea he should make it to the
"GSL World Championship: A 5v5 show match between five of the best foreigners and five of the best Koreans. "
but he needs to take advantage of the EG-Slayers partnership.

I don't know how it works but if EG helps Slayers with travel fees etc, I don't get why he could not practice with their players. Idra would get the cross server lag but at least he would practice with Puma,Jyp, Coca, Miya etc.
Fortii
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany760 Posts
August 12 2012 21:41 GMT
#48693
yeah, another stephano fan comes in to spill his nonsense. get out.
IdrA!
Kyrao
Profile Joined July 2010
United States161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 21:52:50
August 12 2012 21:51 GMT
#48694
On August 13 2012 06:41 Fortii wrote:
yeah, another stephano fan comes in to spill his nonsense. get out.

If I replaced both times I mentioned the word "Stephano" with "a person who understands the importance of strategic engagements when playing Zerg" would that make you feel better? I'm not some die hard Stephano fan coming to grip about how he's so much better than Idra (which, for the record, he is), it's just easy to reference him as an example of someone doing it right. I honestly think Idra could have learned a lot from him.

If you disagree with my assessment, then argue a counter point. I would seriously love to be proven wrong here.

Edit: Better word choice.
Flume
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden36 Posts
August 12 2012 21:52 GMT
#48695
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, of course. But keep that negative shit out of the fan clubs. Just let the fan clubs be places were the pros can come and enjoy interacting with their fans. If you want to rant or hate or whatthefuckever just do it somewhere else.
thegiantnome
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States125 Posts
August 12 2012 21:56 GMT
#48696
I know IdrA is not playing his best but think about it, what foreigner excluding stephano is doing well? Maybe Nerchio? But that was only in HSC 5. If anyone says Naniwa they are kidding themselves as he is absolute shit out of GSL and absolute shit in PvZ. So we are left with Stephano. Stephano and the koreans smash everybody. Sure IdrA used to run with the leaders of the pack. Think back to MLG Orlando. 1. Huk 2. MC 3. theSTc 4. IdrA. He was one of two foreigners who was able to compete with the koreans. Now we see neither Huk nor IdrA doing very well. IdrA not playing well is part of the problem but the other problem is that the koreans have left their homeland to come and crush the dreams of everyone except Stephano. I personally dislike Stephanos play. I also dislike him because he is doing better than IdrA atm but that doesn't change the fact that he is the only one that can beat koreans in all major tournaments. Anyways like I said earlier IdrA is not playing well but he is not doing worse than most other foreigners. Look at his series with Taeja at ASUS ROG. The first two games were stupidly close. IdrA won one and had the other one in the bag until he made corruptors instead of ultras. Not sure about the other games but I think this is a sign that things are looking up. If the Gracken can almost beat the unbeatable player then I think we are going to see a resurgence soon. My dream is for IdrA to win GSL and maybe win multiple. It would be amazing for him to be the first foreigner to win GSL and that would shut up the IdrA hate forever. Unlikely but heres hoping!
Today is a great day to forget all your problems and create bigger new ones- Dane Cook
Kyrao
Profile Joined July 2010
United States161 Posts
August 12 2012 21:56 GMT
#48697
On August 13 2012 06:52 Flume wrote:
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, of course. But keep that negative shit out of the fan clubs. Just let the fan clubs be places were the pros can come and enjoy interacting with their fans. If you want to rant or hate or whatthefuckever just do it somewhere else.

This is a good point, I apologize. I really didn't mean for it to be so negative. To be honest, I think part of me just felt betrayed last year when he started slumping and never really came out of it, which makes me a little bit bitter. I sincerely wish Idra the best of luck.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 22:03:14
August 12 2012 22:00 GMT
#48698
On August 13 2012 06:06 Kyrao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 05:23 Aocowns wrote:
On August 13 2012 05:15 Kyrao wrote:
On August 11 2012 12:38 GinDo wrote:
Idra is an amazing player. His mechanic are top notch.

He's just not playing the game right T_T. You can't keep throwing that many units.

Idra may not be my favorite player, but I know he works hard and practices alot, and it's sad to see him not win.

EDIT: And oh yeah, 100% agree on Idras comment Ingame. To bad DB doesn't.


As an old fan of his, I feel Idra is still stuck in the BW mentality that mechanics win games, period. His mechanics are really good, but his decision making is just terrible. How many times have you seen him max out on a great army and then just a-move it into a deathball to get absolutely slaughtered? It happens all the time, often followed by "Idra has left the game."

His awesome mechanics were the reason he was "King of the Beta" when macro was 95% of the game back then. But since that time, he just hasn't been able to scale as well as other players, who are all constantly improving, because he's so content claiming "imbalance!" even as we all watch ZvZ grand finals. I honestly wonder how he justifies his mentality when people like Stephano opening say Zerg is overpowered. Someone should seriously make a montage of "zerg engagements," half from Idra and the other half from Stephano. I almost guarentee that you would quite easily be able to tell the difference between who is who.

As much as I hate to admit it, I don't see Idra ever coming back out on top. He will continue to be that guy who tournies invite to play simply because so many people enjoy watching him lose, eagerly waiting for the bm he is so well known for.

I think this comment would be more fitting when it actually seemed to be the case. right now i think pretty much everything in this comment is bullshit, especially considering Idra's rate of improvement recently


Apparently you missed his most recent NASL4 qualifier appearance... unless by "bullshit" you simply mean inconvenient and counter to what you wish to be the case. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Then again, please be more specific about his recent rate of improvement. I don't follow him 100%, so I could be missing something. But from what I've seen, my comments are still quite fitting.

Why don't you take a look at some games from some months ago, hell look at results even. Then look at his most recent LAN games. you OBJECTIVELY see the difference. He is playing so much better now than he was some months ago, to deny that is just stupid to me. and yes, I did miss his nasl qualifier. The only point you made in the original comment that I agree on was the mechanical part, and that has been said and discussed sooo many times in the last year that I kinda just facepalm and get annoyed whenever I see it pop up again lol.

Besides that, your evaluation of his mentality seems extremely outdated to me(probably explained by the comment you made where you say you aren't following him that closely) You also try to say that his lack of improvement was because he said imba about everything. Again, this is extremely outdated. When was the last time Idra said something was imbalanced against Z when no other top zergs did? What, half a year? More?

''He will continue to be that guy who tournies invite to play simply because so many people enjoy watching him lose, eagerly waiting for the bm he is so well known for''

What the hell, you do realize most people enjoy seeing him winning right? The people that love seeing him lose are a vocal minority mostly filled with crap, and to me you kinda sound like one of them at some points

EDIT: You also touch on engagements; I do agree to some extent, but imo this is one of the points where his recent improvement really shines, as his engagement and army control has improved a lot as well.(not to say that he has top army control to rival Stephano or anything, of course. Just to highlight one of the points where it seems to me he improved)
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Kyrao
Profile Joined July 2010
United States161 Posts
August 12 2012 22:44 GMT
#48699
On August 13 2012 07:00 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 06:06 Kyrao wrote:
On August 13 2012 05:23 Aocowns wrote:
On August 13 2012 05:15 Kyrao wrote:
On August 11 2012 12:38 GinDo wrote:
Idra is an amazing player. His mechanic are top notch.

He's just not playing the game right T_T. You can't keep throwing that many units.

Idra may not be my favorite player, but I know he works hard and practices alot, and it's sad to see him not win.

EDIT: And oh yeah, 100% agree on Idras comment Ingame. To bad DB doesn't.


As an old fan of his, I feel Idra is still stuck in the BW mentality that mechanics win games, period. His mechanics are really good, but his decision making is just terrible. How many times have you seen him max out on a great army and then just a-move it into a deathball to get absolutely slaughtered? It happens all the time, often followed by "Idra has left the game."

His awesome mechanics were the reason he was "King of the Beta" when macro was 95% of the game back then. But since that time, he just hasn't been able to scale as well as other players, who are all constantly improving, because he's so content claiming "imbalance!" even as we all watch ZvZ grand finals. I honestly wonder how he justifies his mentality when people like Stephano opening say Zerg is overpowered. Someone should seriously make a montage of "zerg engagements," half from Idra and the other half from Stephano. I almost guarentee that you would quite easily be able to tell the difference between who is who.

As much as I hate to admit it, I don't see Idra ever coming back out on top. He will continue to be that guy who tournies invite to play simply because so many people enjoy watching him lose, eagerly waiting for the bm he is so well known for.

I think this comment would be more fitting when it actually seemed to be the case. right now i think pretty much everything in this comment is bullshit, especially considering Idra's rate of improvement recently


Apparently you missed his most recent NASL4 qualifier appearance... unless by "bullshit" you simply mean inconvenient and counter to what you wish to be the case. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Then again, please be more specific about his recent rate of improvement. I don't follow him 100%, so I could be missing something. But from what I've seen, my comments are still quite fitting.

Why don't you take a look at some games from some months ago, hell look at results even. Then look at his most recent LAN games. you OBJECTIVELY see the difference. He is playing so much better now than he was some months ago, to deny that is just stupid to me. and yes, I did miss his nasl qualifier. The only point you made in the original comment that I agree on was the mechanical part, and that has been said and discussed sooo many times in the last year that I kinda just facepalm and get annoyed whenever I see it pop up again lol.

Besides that, your evaluation of his mentality seems extremely outdated to me(probably explained by the comment you made where you say you aren't following him that closely) You also try to say that his lack of improvement was because he said imba about everything. Again, this is extremely outdated. When was the last time Idra said something was imbalanced against Z when no other top zergs did? What, half a year? More?

''He will continue to be that guy who tournies invite to play simply because so many people enjoy watching him lose, eagerly waiting for the bm he is so well known for''

What the hell, you do realize most people enjoy seeing him winning right? The people that love seeing him lose are a vocal minority mostly filled with crap, and to me you kinda sound like one of them at some points

EDIT: You also touch on engagements; I do agree to some extent, but imo this is one of the points where his recent improvement really shines, as his engagement and army control has improved a lot as well.(not to say that he has top army control to rival Stephano or anything, of course. Just to highlight one of the points where it seems to me he improved)


I have to respond, hopefully for the last time, since you are trying to call me out directly.

On August 13 2012 07:00 Aocowns wrote:
...yes, I did miss his nasl qualifier...

Not much more to say on this point.

On August 13 2012 07:00 Aocowns wrote:
Besides that, your evaluation of his mentality seems extremely outdated to me(probably explained by the comment you made where you say you aren't following him that closely) You also try to say that his lack of improvement was because he said imba about everything. Again, this is extremely outdated. When was the last time Idra said something was imbalanced against Z when no other top zergs did? What, half a year? More?

You are correct. He hasn't been opening calling out imba since the most recent queen/overlord buff. This isn't because of some change in mentality however. If you'd have watched the nasl4 qualifier, you can tell he feels late game PvZ is "fucking retarded." His mentality hasn't changed and he will continue to find in-game excuses for his sub-par performance. That's just his personality.

On August 13 2012 07:00 Aocowns wrote:
...you do realize most people enjoy seeing him winning right? The people that love seeing him lose are a vocal minority mostly filled with crap, and to me you kinda sound like one of them at some points...

It is hard to enjoy watching him win when... well you know, he doesn't actually win. As to the idea that I sound like someone who likes watching him lose... I always cheer for foreigners, especially ones from the USA. I honestly would have considered myself an Idra fan boy back in the day, and I'd gladly return if he started playing like someone worth cheering for again. The point I had tried to make was that I don't see that ever happening.

Again, I'm not trying to bash on him. I was just voicing my opinion, which I now realize I really shouldn't have done in his fan club thread, since it turned out to be rather negative.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
August 13 2012 02:37 GMT
#48700
I'm glad we have telepaths on TL.net because I'm personally incapable of judging someone's mentality based on a few in game comments.
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