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MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
July 31 2012 10:01 GMT
#67761
On July 31 2012 18:57 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 18:53 Vorgrim wrote:
On July 31 2012 18:48 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On July 31 2012 18:11 Vorgrim wrote:
On July 31 2012 18:04 StorkHwaiting wrote:Tiger JK does hiphop better than 90% of the American scene, and JoKwon is a blue-blooded diva. These guys got musical chops that go far beyond imitation of their Western counterparts.

You should get that crack habit sorted. Seriously, how high are you?


Yeah? Name 20 hip-hop acts better than Tiger JK in America right now. Because there's at least 200 signed mofos running around the states.

About Utada: I really like her too. Her Japanese albums are amazing. This Is The One? Not so much...

I'm sure someone who still cares about hiphop could come up with a list. I don't.



So you assert something then have nothing to back it at all. GJ. I like the way you debate. Especially seeing as how you don't seem to know or care at all about the scene yet want to tell other people they're smoking crack. Tiger JK has put out amazing hits over the years and he's still relevant. I would find it very difficult to put together a long list of MCs that definitively smash him in today's scene. Now if we include golden era hip hop, that's another story and I wouldn't be making that claim. But what I said was the current scene.


SoulJa Boy def #1



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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
July 31 2012 10:01 GMT
#67762
On July 31 2012 18:48 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 18:11 Vorgrim wrote:
On July 31 2012 18:04 StorkHwaiting wrote:Tiger JK does hiphop better than 90% of the American scene, and JoKwon is a blue-blooded diva. These guys got musical chops that go far beyond imitation of their Western counterparts.

You should get that crack habit sorted. Seriously, how high are you?


Yeah? Name 20 hip-hop acts better than Tiger JK in America right now. Because there's at least 200 signed mofos running around the states.

About Utada: I really like her too. Her Japanese albums are amazing. This Is The One? Not so much...


could name more than 20, but people who are ignorant only know shit hip hop so they think us hiphop is dead which is not the case...but pretty irrelevant in a kpop thread
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
July 31 2012 10:02 GMT
#67763
Yeah, point taken. I'm sorry. Let that argument die. I really do not want to see what kind of hiphop gets mentioned after I got souljaboy shot at me as the opening salvo.
s0uljah
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore143 Posts
July 31 2012 10:04 GMT
#67764
And add mine to the list. I'm okay with Ah-Reum cos she seems to be taking some of the strains off the lead vocal SoYeon. But Hwayoung couldn't sing, was not much of a looker and just seemed to cause so many problems within T-ara right from the start.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
July 31 2012 10:05 GMT
#67765
T-ara has cancelled their performance for august 1st... I read they aren't allowed to pre record that one. Is KKS afraid of live audience booing them off stage maybe?
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 31 2012 10:06 GMT
#67766
On July 31 2012 19:04 s0uljah wrote:
And add mine to the list. I'm okay with Ah-Reum cos she seems to be taking some of the strains off the lead vocal SoYeon. But Hwayoung couldn't sing, was not much of a looker and just seemed to cause so many problems within T-ara right from the start.

I've seen this multiple times and I don't get it. Maybe CCM introduced her that way (I wouldn't know, I stopped paying attention to CCM long before this whole fiasco) but from all the lives I've heard she's been badly off-key. I get she's taken some hard high notes, but she can't really sing them.

That being said I mind her far less than Hwa or Dani.
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
July 31 2012 10:06 GMT
#67767
BUT THIS DEFINITELY BETTER THAN TIGER JK



gOinG LoKo 4 D3M l0K0
Limpet
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom163 Posts
July 31 2012 10:08 GMT
#67768
http://www.allkpop.com/2012/07/t-aras-appearance-at-k-pop-yeosu-expo-super-concert-canceled
And there we have it, I guess they were worried about getting stuff thrown at them.
s0uljah
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore143 Posts
July 31 2012 10:09 GMT
#67769
On July 31 2012 19:06 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 19:04 s0uljah wrote:
And add mine to the list. I'm okay with Ah-Reum cos she seems to be taking some of the strains off the lead vocal SoYeon. But Hwayoung couldn't sing, was not much of a looker and just seemed to cause so many problems within T-ara right from the start.

I've seen this multiple times and I don't get it. Maybe CCM introduced her that way (I wouldn't know, I stopped paying attention to CCM long before this whole fiasco) but from all the lives I've heard she's been badly off-key. I get she's taken some hard high notes, but she can't really sing them.

That being said I mind her far less than Hwa or Dani.


Haven't been catching up with live performances tbh so I would not know about the off-key bit. She is still more of a looker than Hwayoung. But in all honesty, KKS always gives the newcomer so many more lines than the older members. Boram was relegated to a DANCER in Cry Cry, and even in Day By Day, Qri has more lines than Boram. Eun jung has also been pretty much relegated to "Come on Come on Oh" in Cry Cry as well.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
July 31 2012 10:09 GMT
#67770
No music shows, perf canceled, endorsements dropping them left and right, main fanpage shutting down, massive fancafe with 200k+ to find out the truth about T-ara, police calling out KKS for lying about investigating the backup dancer. Yeah I want nothing to do with trying to save that sinking ship. Put me in the Lime boat please.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 31 2012 10:11 GMT
#67771
^that shit will die down. No one cares about Daesung killing a dude anymore. Then again, YG handled this better than CCM has...



On July 31 2012 19:01 MorningMusume11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 18:57 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On July 31 2012 18:53 Vorgrim wrote:
On July 31 2012 18:48 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On July 31 2012 18:11 Vorgrim wrote:
On July 31 2012 18:04 StorkHwaiting wrote:Tiger JK does hiphop better than 90% of the American scene, and JoKwon is a blue-blooded diva. These guys got musical chops that go far beyond imitation of their Western counterparts.

You should get that crack habit sorted. Seriously, how high are you?


Yeah? Name 20 hip-hop acts better than Tiger JK in America right now. Because there's at least 200 signed mofos running around the states.

About Utada: I really like her too. Her Japanese albums are amazing. This Is The One? Not so much...

I'm sure someone who still cares about hiphop could come up with a list. I don't.



So you assert something then have nothing to back it at all. GJ. I like the way you debate. Especially seeing as how you don't seem to know or care at all about the scene yet want to tell other people they're smoking crack. Tiger JK has put out amazing hits over the years and he's still relevant. I would find it very difficult to put together a long list of MCs that definitively smash him in today's scene. Now if we include golden era hip hop, that's another story and I wouldn't be making that claim. But what I said was the current scene.


SoulJa Boy def #1
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s0uljah
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore143 Posts
July 31 2012 10:12 GMT
#67772
On July 31 2012 19:09 Moonwrath wrote:
No music shows, perf canceled, endorsements dropping them left and right, main fanpage shutting down, massive fancafe with 200k+ to find out the truth about T-ara, police calling out KKS for lying about investigating the backup dancer. Yeah I want nothing to do with trying to save that sinking ship. Put me in the Lime boat please.


And that being right smack in the middle of their promotion cycle... T-ara is actually in some pretty serious trouble here. Then again, I don't understand how so many people are white-knighting Hwayoung for "OH CCM why don't you show us footage of Hwayoung refusing to perform or throwing a tantrum" and never think of "Why hasn't there been any recorded footage of the supposed bullying"? Cos all I see right now are just short clips of variety shows that may or may not be bullying, but pretty much even SNSD does that to each other on a frequent basis.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
July 31 2012 10:13 GMT
#67773
On July 31 2012 19:05 DwD wrote:
T-ara has cancelled their performance for august 1st... I read they aren't allowed to pre record that one. Is KKS afraid of live audience booing them off stage maybe?


Damn, as bad as that could have turned out I was really looking forward to it. ;(
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 31 2012 10:13 GMT
#67774
On July 31 2012 19:12 s0uljah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 19:09 Moonwrath wrote:
No music shows, perf canceled, endorsements dropping them left and right, main fanpage shutting down, massive fancafe with 200k+ to find out the truth about T-ara, police calling out KKS for lying about investigating the backup dancer. Yeah I want nothing to do with trying to save that sinking ship. Put me in the Lime boat please.


And that being right smack in the middle of their promotion cycle... T-ara is actually in some pretty serious trouble here. Then again, I don't understand how so many people are white-knighting Hwayoung for "OH CCM why don't you show us footage of Hwayoung refusing to perform or throwing a tantrum" and never think of "Why hasn't there been any recorded footage of the supposed bullying"? Cos all I see right now are just short clips of variety shows that may or may not be bullying, but pretty much even SNSD does that to each other on a frequent basis.

Because everyone outside of here and a select other forums believe whatever shit AKP shoves down their throats.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 31 2012 10:13 GMT
#67775
whatever happens I hope that all the members will be able to continue on. I wonder whether they would be able to join other groups as well if they have to disband...maybe.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
July 31 2012 10:15 GMT
#67776
This, boys and girls, is the power of media brainwashing and forced narratives.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
July 31 2012 10:15 GMT
#67777
Daesung's incident isn't even comparable though. That was obviously an accident was recognized as such by everyone, plus YG didn't piss all over the dead guy and his family like KKS is doing here. The bullying rumors, whether true or not, have spun so far out of control that there is a huge backlash against CCM and T-ara. Totally different from Big Bang's scenario.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
July 31 2012 10:15 GMT
#67778
On July 31 2012 19:13 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 19:12 s0uljah wrote:
On July 31 2012 19:09 Moonwrath wrote:
No music shows, perf canceled, endorsements dropping them left and right, main fanpage shutting down, massive fancafe with 200k+ to find out the truth about T-ara, police calling out KKS for lying about investigating the backup dancer. Yeah I want nothing to do with trying to save that sinking ship. Put me in the Lime boat please.


And that being right smack in the middle of their promotion cycle... T-ara is actually in some pretty serious trouble here. Then again, I don't understand how so many people are white-knighting Hwayoung for "OH CCM why don't you show us footage of Hwayoung refusing to perform or throwing a tantrum" and never think of "Why hasn't there been any recorded footage of the supposed bullying"? Cos all I see right now are just short clips of variety shows that may or may not be bullying, but pretty much even SNSD does that to each other on a frequent basis.

Because everyone outside of here and a select other forums believe whatever shit AKP shoves down their throats.

What does akp have to do with korean opinion? It's an english site for non koreans.
Trok67
Profile Joined May 2010
France384 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 10:21:25
July 31 2012 10:16 GMT
#67779


And that being right smack in the middle of their promotion cycle... T-ara is actually in some pretty serious trouble here. Then again, I don't understand how so many people are white-knighting Hwayoung for "OH CCM why don't you show us footage of Hwayoung refusing to perform or throwing a tantrum" and never think of "Why hasn't there been any recorded footage of the supposed bullying"? Cos all I see right now are just short clips of variety shows that may or may not be bullying, but pretty much even SNSD does that to each other on a frequent basis.


I am not sure if this has been posted yet but here you can see that she was being "ostracized" by the other members (I am not sure if one can consider this as "bullying"). People pick some members as their favorite : they are all like "its cool" and when she is being picked she is all alone and the others laugh at her like "ur kidding me ?".


DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 31 2012 10:16 GMT
#67780
On July 31 2012 19:15 Vorgrim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 19:13 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 31 2012 19:12 s0uljah wrote:
On July 31 2012 19:09 Moonwrath wrote:
No music shows, perf canceled, endorsements dropping them left and right, main fanpage shutting down, massive fancafe with 200k+ to find out the truth about T-ara, police calling out KKS for lying about investigating the backup dancer. Yeah I want nothing to do with trying to save that sinking ship. Put me in the Lime boat please.


And that being right smack in the middle of their promotion cycle... T-ara is actually in some pretty serious trouble here. Then again, I don't understand how so many people are white-knighting Hwayoung for "OH CCM why don't you show us footage of Hwayoung refusing to perform or throwing a tantrum" and never think of "Why hasn't there been any recorded footage of the supposed bullying"? Cos all I see right now are just short clips of variety shows that may or may not be bullying, but pretty much even SNSD does that to each other on a frequent basis.

Because everyone outside of here and a select other forums believe whatever shit AKP shoves down their throats.

What does akp have to do with korean opinion? It's an english site for non koreans.

I was trying to edit my post but my internte was being stupid.

Everything I've heard from my korean friends indicates that most korean entertainment journalism is just as shitty as AKP's biased translating.
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