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s0uljah
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore143 Posts
July 31 2012 10:17 GMT
#67781
Think its not allkpop, but rather Korean media. Korean media has a tendency to try and sensationalize alot. Remember what happened with Tablo and his Harvard degree?
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 10:20:01
July 31 2012 10:19 GMT
#67782
^that's the point I was trying to edit in before my internet decided to die on me for a few minutes.

On July 31 2012 19:15 Moonwrath wrote:
Daesung's incident isn't even comparable though. That was obviously an accident was recognized as such by everyone, plus YG didn't piss all over the dead guy and his family like KKS is doing here. The bullying rumors, whether true or not, have spun so far out of control that there is a huge backlash against CCM and T-ara. Totally different from Big Bang's scenario.

The point is people were pissed when Daesung killed a dude and that shit died down. this is a bigger deal but I think it'll just take a little more time, and they might never be quite as big. But I think they'll be able to continue on in the future.
s0uljah
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore143 Posts
July 31 2012 10:21 GMT
#67783
Daesung's case was definitely more serious but in terms of media handling, CCM should really take a few lessons from the Big 3. Even the recent Nickhun case, where he ran over another motorcyclist (what's with stars and motorcyclists anyway) has been properly handled by JYP so there has been minimal backlash from the public.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 31 2012 10:21 GMT
#67784
On July 31 2012 19:17 s0uljah wrote:
Think its not allkpop, but rather Korean media. Korean media has a tendency to try and sensationalize alot. Remember what happened with Tablo and his Harvard degree?

Good point, though I'm pretty sure it was a Stanford degree. Just nitpicking
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 31 2012 10:24 GMT
#67785
On July 31 2012 19:21 s0uljah wrote:
Daesung's case was definitely more serious but in terms of media handling, CCM should really take a few lessons from the Big 3. Even the recent Nickhun case, where he ran over another motorcyclist (what's with stars and motorcyclists anyway) has been properly handled by JYP so there has been minimal backlash from the public.

CCM could take a few lessons from my cat, because anyone could handle this better than them.

And I don't even have a cat.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 10:25:11
July 31 2012 10:25 GMT
#67786
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 31 2012 19:16 Trok67 wrote:
Show nested quote +


And that being right smack in the middle of their promotion cycle... T-ara is actually in some pretty serious trouble here. Then again, I don't understand how so many people are white-knighting Hwayoung for "OH CCM why don't you show us footage of Hwayoung refusing to perform or throwing a tantrum" and never think of "Why hasn't there been any recorded footage of the supposed bullying"? Cos all I see right now are just short clips of variety shows that may or may not be bullying, but pretty much even SNSD does that to each other on a frequent basis.


I am not sure if this has been posted yet but here you can see that she was being "ostracized" by the other members (I am not sure if one can consider this as "bullying"). People pick some members as their favorite : they are all like "its cool" and when she is being picked she is all alone and the others laugh at her like "ur kidding me ?".




Wow... that clip was really damned bad to be honest. Hwayoung looks really pitiful there. Feel bad for her. It helps that she looks really cute in that clip too. But those girls were definitely not friendly. That's probably the most solid confirmation I've seen yet. ALL of them unanimously had snobby reactions. Jiyeon just sat there frozen looking at the screen, while Ham and Hyomin immediately laughed at her.

Then again, I was pretty sure the bullying was happening soon as the rumors came out. Jiyeon and Eunjung just seem like that type of girl.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 31 2012 10:26 GMT
#67787
^if by "that type of girl" you mean qt as fuck and kind of clumsy, then yes, PJY is that type of girl.

Pluggin dem holes wit my body dammit
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
July 31 2012 10:28 GMT
#67788
LOL dystopia. I'm still a 6-ARA fan. But ugh. That was icy.
s0uljah
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 10:29:59
July 31 2012 10:29 GMT
#67789
DystopiaX pluggin dem holes and pluggin dem ladies ^^ But I am less inclined to trust anything from Korean Entertainment Media (and by extension, allshitpop) with regards to this issue until a statement from CCM, T-ara or Hwayoung OR conclusive evidence has been found.

Edit : I am not going to trust a bullshit statement from CCM either. Their PR department is an insult to fail.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 31 2012 10:30 GMT
#67790
Poor Hwayoung

I've never felt strongly about her in either way, but it's sad to see that the group was probably being so mean to her ;__;
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
July 31 2012 10:31 GMT
#67791
I'll help you DystopiaX:
If people laughing at you in a variety show is an indicator of bullying, then Lee Kwang Soo is one of the most openly bullied persons in Korean variety - and no one gives a fuck about it
PatouPower
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 10:56:55
July 31 2012 10:55 GMT
#67792
How is Jiyeon looking like a girl who would bully anyone? Her laugh is like the most innocent and cute thing ever. And if you talk about that "cold" or "bitchy" attitude she sometimes has on stage, then we have a problem because someone in Kara is probably being bullied by Gyuri too. Poor Jiyoung

Can't believe people still attribute anything they see on TV to their real personalities. Most of the time it is scripted, and the rest of the time they are just improvising a character.
Surrealistic
Profile Joined September 2009
311 Posts
July 31 2012 10:59 GMT
#67793
On July 31 2012 19:55 PatouPower wrote:
How is Jiyeon looking like a girl who would bully anyone? Her laugh is like the most innocent and cute thing ever. And if you talk about that "cold" or "bitchy" attitude she sometimes has on stage, then we have a problem because someone in Kara is probably being bullied by Gyuri too. Poor Jiyoung

Can't believe people still attribute anything they see on TV to their real personalities. Most of the time it is scripted, and the rest of the time they are just improvising a character.

Ok.
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
July 31 2012 10:59 GMT
#67794
On July 31 2012 19:55 PatouPower wrote:
How is Jiyeon looking like a girl who would bully anyone? Her laugh is like the most innocent and cute thing ever. And if you talk about that "cold" or "bitchy" attitude she sometimes has on stage, then we have a problem because someone in Kara is probably being bullied by Gyuri too. Poor Jiyoung

Can't believe people still attribute anything they see on TV to their real personalities. Most of the time it is scripted, and the rest of the time they are just improvising a character.


Yet you seem to judge her being cute and innocent based on recorded stuff too, no?
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 31 2012 11:01 GMT
#67795
Ouch surrealistic and karpo just double-booped patou D:

Well, I have to go...hope there's not too much drama by tomorrow... For what it's worth, it's probably somewhere in between of course. They have their constructed personalities and the own personalities, and it will never be either for 100% of the time. The PR/constructed personality is probably shown more often though... Just guessing.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
DjSweetBazz
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden172 Posts
July 31 2012 11:02 GMT
#67796
I havent read the thread since yesterday, what did jiyeon do? why is ppl being harsh on her? did i miss something?
PatouPower
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 11:19:07
July 31 2012 11:02 GMT
#67797
On July 31 2012 19:59 karpo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 19:55 PatouPower wrote:
How is Jiyeon looking like a girl who would bully anyone? Her laugh is like the most innocent and cute thing ever. And if you talk about that "cold" or "bitchy" attitude she sometimes has on stage, then we have a problem because someone in Kara is probably being bullied by Gyuri too. Poor Jiyoung

Can't believe people still attribute anything they see on TV to their real personalities. Most of the time it is scripted, and the rest of the time they are just improvising a character.


Yet you seem to judge her being cute and innocent based on recorded stuff too, no?


That line was just me being bias'ed to defend her in a bias way. But don't worry, I know any cute girl in k-pop probably almost never act that way in their private life (at least not at the extent they are showing in front of the cameras).

EDIT:
On July 31 2012 20:02 DjSweetBazz wrote:
I havent read the thread since yesterday, what did jiyeon do? why is ppl being harsh on her? did i miss something?


The problem is people are still talking about that Hwayoung story even if a lot of them, including StorkHwaiting, agreed to stop this discussion a few pages ago if there were not any solid evidence of bullying around. I guess we had a nice little 5 pages streak at least... Are you gonna post every episode of "T-ARA Bullying Hwayoung? Episode XX"?
Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
July 31 2012 11:19 GMT
#67798
It's a huge story. T-ara have been one of the best groups in Kpop, and they are on the ropes right now. Korean media is going to town on this. Naver has at least 10 stories related to T-ara on their front page right now.

Thinking people are just going to stop talking about it because you dislike the fact your "bias" is being talked of in a less than favourable light is not really a concern for most.
Jarzai
Profile Joined December 2011
United States702 Posts
July 31 2012 11:26 GMT
#67799
I just bought a bunch of T-ara on iTunes, you know just showing some support before they disappear off the face of the planet.
@Yulwell. Yuri "Always Smile" ~ Jessica Jung AYO GG
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 31 2012 11:27 GMT
#67800
On July 31 2012 20:26 Jarzai wrote:
I just bought a bunch of T-ara on iTunes, you know just showing some support before they disappear off the face of the planet.

Listening to absolute first, fuck the haters.
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