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Can't say I would care if Hara left KARA, but if KARA ended up disbanding because of it, I would be quite displeased (but I doubt that would happen even if she left). As for Nicole, as much as I love her, I have to also admit she doesn't have the voice to go solo .
To guy below me, personal opinion but Hara was horrible in City Hunter lol.
EDIT: There was also talk about how Nicole would do solo which is why I said what I did.
You are all arguingDISCUSSING with Nicole's #1 fanatical stan whether she can go solo or not. I'll just leave it at that.
Even if the rumors about Hara not resigning with DSP, she has a large fanbase and she could definitely go into acting if all else fails; she pretty decent in City Hunter considering the role she played.
My impression with the DSP/Kara lawsuit thing was Nicole's mom demanding more money and either her/Nicole trying to capture public sympathy by exposing it to the media. I didn't really follow it closely and it seems like nobody actually knows what happened.
Most of the discussion was about Hara going solo, not Nicole...
I can't tell if she was acting poorly in City Hunter or if the role was stupid; I think a little bit of both. The writer probably wrote the character knowing there had to be a token idol and so made that character not have to do anything complex.
Dunno if it's fair to say it was all Nicole/Nicole's mom. She was the most vocal but that doesn't mean she was the only one who wanted that shit.
@Sharky- doubt it, girls got a lot of flak for appearing greedy. Also, there are far better ways to get publicity than halting group promotions for several days (and possibly longer, since the girls agreed to continue working even though their contracts were in dispute).
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I don't know what flak your talking about
IIRC, this is what happened:
hsy, nicole and jiyoung : we only get $3000 a year
DSP: they each earn $300,000 yearly. And we have it in our records.
Reporter : can we see it?
DSP:...no
There seems to be alot of controversy lately so yeah, i started thinking that pub stunts are an effective method.
People were posting angry things about how the girls were stupid and/or greedy and/or lying about the whole thing. Not good publicity.
Yeah but those angry things were mostly from jyj fangirls (because the two were being compared, due to similarities in situation) that kind of flak hardly matters. Neither DSP or kara had anything to show for what they claimed, or at least they didnt show it. And of course its not good publicity, but im saying that the "any publicity is good publicity" idea seems to be working in the kpop scene and maybe that's what DSP was trying to do.
There's no arguing here. I said I think she could eventually go solo. Probably can't right now and maybe never ? I'm not delusional to the point of thinking that I can look at this subject objectively lol I'm obviously way too biased to have a logic look at this.
If the average population thinks that she doesn't have the skills to go solo than they are right, who am I to say otherwise.
Also I'm not #1 fanatical stan I'm just the resident captain of the Nicole ship around here but I've seen bigger fans out there. + Show Spoiler [The #1 person, maybe?] +
On February 22 2012 11:10 Kipsate wrote: Anyway thats a pretty poor slave contract you got there DSP, thats what, only a 5 year contract?
Hara/Jiyoung joined in 2008. Contract ends in 2014. Pretty good slave contract imo especially considering they didn't train them much at all before debuting them.
On February 22 2012 12:06 DystopiaX wrote: I can't tell if she was acting poorly in City Hunter or if the role was stupid; I think a little bit of both. The writer probably wrote the character knowing there had to be a token idol and so made that character not have to do anything complex.
Her role was to play some whiny your-average-spoilt-teenage-girl that finds her love for being a barista. The writers realized she was somewhat of an unlikable character so they wrote in that part about beating people up, and the audience is able to find some redemption in her determination to protect her father's name. I'm not sure whether that's actually her character in real life, but I think she filled the role pretty well. Do we have to go into the whole thing about "bad acting != an actress playing a character you dislike" again? If she is that way irl, then she's a one-dimensional actress, and if she isn't then I can totally see her doing well in the future.
On February 22 2012 12:06 DystopiaX wrote: Dunno if it's fair to say it was all Nicole/Nicole's mom. She was the most vocal but that doesn't mean she was the only one who wanted that shit.
that's the vibe I got from the akp articles but feel free to correct me if you have sources. I was a bit curious about this too.
On February 22 2012 12:22 DystopiaX wrote: I never brought up disliking her character into it. I just said that I didn't think she acted particularly well. Like the spoilt shit ended up being more shit aegyo than looking entitled, etc. I don't know why you're putting words into my mouth but that's not what I'm saying at all.
wot? I was just neutrally explaining my take on her acting.
I never brought up disliking her character into it. I just said that I didn't think she acted particularly well. Like the spoilt shit ended up being more shit aegyo than looking entitled, etc. I don't know why you're putting words into my mouth but that's not what I'm saying at all.
edit- as for the AKP thing that's the vibe I got from there too, but all I'm saying is just because she was the one making the public statements for the group doesn't mean that she was the most bloodthirsty one. She could have had the most time/was the best public speaker or whatever, my only point was that we didn't have a behind the scenes look to see what was really going on.
double- as for Nicole going solo I think she has adequate skills for it but more of it seems to be popularity while you're in the group than actual talent. Like whenever T-ara breaks up I could see Jiyeon being more popular as a singer than Soyeon even though Soyeon is better, because she has a larger fanbase.
None of Kara would make it as a solo act. They'd have minor success at the onset assuming proper management, but after the novelty wore off they'd fade away. I haven't seen any of them act, but they have a much better chance with that in general; that said, acting is not going solo so it's moot to the argument.
On February 22 2012 09:19 Synapze wrote: I'm a huge Jiyeon fan but her acting in Dream High 2 is really getting annoying.. she has 1 face. It's that stuck up bitchy face and I just wish she could convey something else.. anything T_T
Since its a Kdrama and dream high here is what I think will happen
Step 1, going to the edge and keep forced smile and all pented up Step 2, go over the edge + Show Spoiler +
tada, happy ending and many a cute jiyeonz were had
Now all you're missing is a gif of her in ep 3 or 4 I think where she was in black stalkings and a school skirt.. my god. But seriously, all 4 of those faces are like the same damn thing.
On February 22 2012 09:28 DystopiaX wrote:
It's not the best but the other actors are far worse. 2AM guy is ok but JB, Sora (who's the main lead, seriously?) and Soon Dong are much much worse.
I don't think Soras acting is the problem, I think it's her character. I don't know who wrote this main character but my god is she annoying as hell. JB's acting isn't great, sure, but hes not awkward as hell either, I don't feel uncomfortable when hes on the screen. As for bad acting... Jiyeon takes the damn cake. I'm a huge fan but I can't deny shes just awful lol. JYP is also terrible, but in a good way, Hyorin and Ailee get very little screen time so they are still to be judged.
Best actor on the show goes to Sora's dad.. holy shit. I wont spoil ep 7 but damn, I was nearly in tears.
No I genuinely don't like the way Sora emotes. It's awkward and fake looking. Hyorin and Ailee are fine for their characters, which are both bland. I enjoyed Jiyeons acting but I'm obviously biased.
So just preordered BigBang's album from Yesasia and Blue is still on repeat ^^
when a few of you posted your rooms with posters I have to admit that it was abit weird to have too many posters on in your room but what I just found blew my mind, poor guy will probably never get any action from a real girl in his room.
Check my comment that he took an hour to respond to. lol
On February 22 2012 13:45 DystopiaX wrote: No I genuinely don't like the way Sora emotes. It's awkward and fake looking. Hyorin and Ailee are fine for their characters, which are both bland. I enjoyed Jiyeons acting but I'm obviously biased.
Did you see kipsates gifs? lol how biased are you? (This coming from a guy who's main biases are Jiyeon and KMK).
So just preordered BigBang's album from Yesasia and Blue is still on repeat ^^
when a few of you posted your rooms with posters I have to admit that it was abit weird to have too many posters on in your room but what I just found blew my mind, poor guy will probably never get any action from a real girl in his room. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0k2mmyW4Vc&feature=related
Check my comment that he took an hour to respond to. lol
Is that funny? Because I would also have given a similar response.
On February 22 2012 13:45 DystopiaX wrote: No I genuinely don't like the way Sora emotes. It's awkward and fake looking. Hyorin and Ailee are fine for their characters, which are both bland. I enjoyed Jiyeons acting but I'm obviously biased.
Did you see kipsates gifs? lol how biased are you? (This coming from a guy who's main biases are Jiyeon and KMK).
I admitted I was biased. Tbh I think it started out well (Jiyeon does bitchy well lol) but as her character's become more complex she hasn't handled it as well. Opposite for Sora- I still don't like her but I thought she was fucking awful before and had no idea how she could make a living as an actress. Bias has a part but she's not fucking terrible.
On February 22 2012 13:40 Synapze wrote: Best actor on the show goes to Sora's dad.. holy shit. I wont spoil ep 7 but damn, I was nearly in tears.
100% agree. At first I thought he was just gonna be a comical character, but god damn that acting was movie acting, not drama acting. Also I feel like DH2 is actually starting to become a more respectable drama (still cheesy as hell). DH2 started very weak and is picking up while DH1 started strong but kinda slowed down until the very end (but the end was shitty as hell). I'm actually mildly excited to see next week's episodes, and not only for Jiyeon.
On February 22 2012 13:47 Vorgrim wrote: Check my comment that he took an hour to respond to. lol
Haters gon hate. I found that comment hilarious and much needed after watching that creepy video
So just preordered BigBang's album from Yesasia and Blue is still on repeat ^^
when a few of you posted your rooms with posters I have to admit that it was abit weird to have too many posters on in your room but what I just found blew my mind, poor guy will probably never get any action from a real girl in his room. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0k2mmyW4Vc&feature=related
Check my comment that he took an hour to respond to. lol
haha I wasn't sure at first which comment was yours funny ^^
Also BigBang 700k views in 12 hours! BigBang is back! I would also brag for their music charts all kill but nowadays it's becoming normal for the big groups to all kill all the music charts.
On February 22 2012 13:40 Synapze wrote: Best actor on the show goes to Sora's dad.. holy shit. I wont spoil ep 7 but damn, I was nearly in tears.
100% agree. At first I thought he was just gonna be a comical character, but god damn that acting was movie acting, not drama acting. Also I feel like DH2 is actually starting to become a more respectable drama (still cheesy as hell). DH2 started very weak and is picking up while DH1 started strong but kinda slowed down until the very end (but the end was shitty as hell). I'm actually mildly excited to see next week's episodes, and not only for Jiyeon.
Agree, the dad is good. Out of the idol actors the only one I think is decent is the 2AM kid, Jin Woo Jin in the show. I feel like part of the problem with DH2 is that they spent so much time starting so many different storylines, I wish they'd spent a little more time fleshing out one of two key conflicts before like skipping to another.