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Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
February 22 2012 02:02 GMT
#49141
On February 22 2012 10:56 sharky246 wrote:
But she can't sing to save her life. How is she going to go on on her own?

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TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 02:10:39
February 22 2012 02:04 GMT
#49142
On February 22 2012 10:59 Ym1r wrote:
Didn't they have a previous dispute with DSP too?

Yes about the CEO/lead of the company that was sick or old or something and was replaced by his wife. They didn't get along too well together and she was overworking them or something like that I think that was the official public version of it. However it most likely was about money since they were quite possibly still getting slave money at that time and they were starting to blow up in Japan so might have realized they're true worth and wanted a new and better contract.

Hara has like 6 months to accept the contract...

If Hara leaves = more camera time and lines for Nicole.
If group breaks-up = Nicole solo + HSY goes to acting or something.
Both case are a win for me in my opinion.


On February 22 2012 11:06 sgxmitchy wrote:
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On February 22 2012 11:04 TuElite wrote:
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On February 22 2012 10:59 Ym1r wrote:
Didn't they have a previous dispute with DSP too?

Yes about the CEO/lead of the company that was sick or old or something and was replaced by his wife. They didn't get along too well together and she was overworking them or something like that I think that was the official public version of it. However it most likely was about money since they were quite possibly still getting slave money at that time and they were starting to blow up in Japan so might have realized they're true worth.

If Hara leaves = more camera time and lines for Nicole.
If group breaks-up = Nicole solo + HSY goes to acting or something.
Both case Is a win for me in my opinion.

Nicole solo? I don't think her singing is good enough to be a solo artist (which isn't something to be ashamed of as 95% of girls in kpop groups wouldn't make it solo)

You sleeping bro. Nicole next Madonna.
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sgxmitchy
Profile Joined January 2012
154 Posts
February 22 2012 02:04 GMT
#49143
On February 22 2012 10:29 hai2u wrote:
yeah have no idea why the list by one dude is posted as an article but the list is reasonable, at least in top5. But WG is probably above T-ara.
.

Actually I think T-ara's popularity is higher than WG's on a GLOBAL scale (Korea + foreign countries like Japan) which is what the chart was referring to. T-ARA did promote for a while in Japan and they're pretty well known there while WG hasn't even stepped into Japan, only the US (where they got very little popularity). However, I think KARA is way ahead in terms of popularity than T-ARA because of their huge presence in both Japan and Korea.
sgxmitchy
Profile Joined January 2012
154 Posts
February 22 2012 02:06 GMT
#49144
On February 22 2012 11:04 TuElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 10:59 Ym1r wrote:
Didn't they have a previous dispute with DSP too?

Yes about the CEO/lead of the company that was sick or old or something and was replaced by his wife. They didn't get along too well together and she was overworking them or something like that I think that was the official public version of it. However it most likely was about money since they were quite possibly still getting slave money at that time and they were starting to blow up in Japan so might have realized they're true worth.

If Hara leaves = more camera time and lines for Nicole.
If group breaks-up = Nicole solo + HSY goes to acting or something.
Both case Is a win for me in my opinion.

Nicole solo? I don't think her singing is good enough to be a solo artist (which isn't something to be ashamed of as 95% of girls in kpop groups wouldn't make it solo)
sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 02:08:40
February 22 2012 02:06 GMT
#49145
Wasn't the previous dispute between DSP and kara just a publicity stunt? It's just way too suspicious.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 02:16:04
February 22 2012 02:10 GMT
#49146
WG is much larger in China however, then T-ara is, even though T-ara is also dipping a toe in the chinaman pool with WGM now, T-ara is larger on a global scale still though I guess. Also Nicole isn't popular enough to make it solo, Hara could if she'd go like Hyunah style, but Hara doesn't really have that in her I think.

Anyway thats a pretty poor slave contract you got there DSP, thats what, only a 5 year contract?
WriterXiao8~~
lifeisgood99
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada915 Posts
February 22 2012 02:11 GMT
#49147


Have some random Sica interview.
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LasTLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States428 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 02:12:23
February 22 2012 02:12 GMT
#49148
Been listening to the new miss A album on loop for about two hours now. At first I wasn't a huge fan of it(thought it was alright, but not great) but now it's gotten into my head and is telling me how good it is. I really hope someone does a remix of No Mercy. The intro for it is so siqq good.

And a little Sunshine to brighten the day.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
February 22 2012 02:18 GMT
#49149
@TuElite- actually, the 3 that disputed claimed they hadn't been paid all that they should.

@Sharky- doubt it, girls got a lot of flak for appearing greedy. Also, there are far better ways to get publicity than halting group promotions for several days (and possibly longer, since the girls agreed to continue working even though their contracts were in dispute).

@Kipsate- more specifically all Asian countries- since WG has been in 'Murica it makes sense that their popularity is lower there. Also, 5 year contracts are standard. It's only SM and maybe JYP with the longer 10-12 year ones- and even with JYP that's unsure. There were rumors that 2pm/oneday's contracts were 12 years even though publicly they claimed they were 5, but no one is sure.
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
February 22 2012 02:23 GMT
#49150
On February 22 2012 11:10 Kipsate wrote:
WG is much larger in China however, then T-ara is, even though T-ara is also dipping a toe in the chinaman pool with WGM now, T-ara is larger on a global scale still though I guess. Also Nicole isn't popular enough to make it solo, Hara could if she'd go like Hyunah style, but Hara doesn't really have that in her I think.

Anyway thats a pretty poor slave contract you got there DSP, thats what, only a 5 year contract?


Hyuna is a very good dancer and she has good stage presence, even though her singing sucks she still x10 better than Hara. Hara will go no where as solo.
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 02:39:01
February 22 2012 02:24 GMT
#49151
Update on Hara

Aug 31 is their UMJ contract end date - Korean contract is until 2014. So yeah somewhat of an unfounded rumor it seems like.
http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=shm&sid1=106&oid=018&aid=0002563351
http://star.mk.co.kr/new/view.php?mc=ST&no=118650&year=2012


On February 22 2012 11:10 Kipsate wrote:
Nicole isn't popular enough to make it solo

Meh, I like to believe she could. Maybe if they build her up just a little more, a little more time and I'm sure she could. Especially in Japan where she's one of the most popular member along with Hara. (This year she was rated at the very top of a chart for upcoming new adult entertainers*). She definitely have the skills. But yeah I would agree that in Korea she might not be popular enough for it to be a possibility right now. Not sure tho.

Oh and I would buy 9000 copies of the album or whatever anyways so I got this.

*lol "adult entertainer" I don't know how to word it but it's a ranking for entertainers that are soon to turn 21 of age or just turned 20 not sure.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 22 2012 02:25 GMT
#49152
On February 22 2012 11:23 zyzq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 11:10 Kipsate wrote:
WG is much larger in China however, then T-ara is, even though T-ara is also dipping a toe in the chinaman pool with WGM now, T-ara is larger on a global scale still though I guess. Also Nicole isn't popular enough to make it solo, Hara could if she'd go like Hyunah style, but Hara doesn't really have that in her I think.

Anyway thats a pretty poor slave contract you got there DSP, thats what, only a 5 year contract?


Hyuna is a very good dancer and she has good stage presence, even though her singing sucks she still x10 better than Hara. Hara will go no where as solo.

Yea that is what I mean, Hara doesnt have the stage presence or good dance skills to go solo.
WriterXiao8~~
Atarxia
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
29 Posts
February 22 2012 02:28 GMT
#49153
Thanks god that Hara is still with Kara... otherwise, what will happen to my Gyuri? =(
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
February 22 2012 02:31 GMT
#49154
On February 22 2012 11:24 TuElite wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Update on Hara

Aug 31 is their UMJ contract end date - Korean contract is until 2014. So yeah somewhat of an unfounded rumor it seems like.
http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=shm&sid1=106&oid=018&aid=0002563351


On February 22 2012 11:10 Kipsate wrote:
Nicole isn't popular enough to make it solo

Meh, i like to believe she could. Maybe if they build up just a little more, a little more time and I'm sure she could. Especially in Japan where she's one of the most popular member along with Hara. (This year she was rated #1 as upcoming new adult entertainer).
*lol "adult entertainer" I don't know how to word it but that's suppose to mean soon to turn 21 or just turned 20 not sure.


Glad you added your own sentence at the end there covering "adult entertainer". Could have been bad if you didn't.
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Lokk
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 02:42:00
February 22 2012 02:32 GMT
#49155
Oh no if Kara breakk up what happens to Ji young, be very sad day, Jiyoung join Rainbow, than they can be 8 colours wow, so op. Jiyoung = edit=pink.

Here is the epic birthday party Rainbow threw for Woori,
Dam look at the cake! so big and tasty! Good job~ Rainbow Happy birthday Woori again...
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
February 22 2012 02:41 GMT
#49156
Imagine Hara doing a solo- Bubble Pop 2, take all my money NOW
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
February 22 2012 02:43 GMT
#49157
She doesn't have the talent or stage presence for it. Also she's skinny as fuck, don't know how she'd pull off that dance.
sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
February 22 2012 02:46 GMT
#49158
On February 22 2012 11:18 DystopiaX wrote:

@Sharky- doubt it, girls got a lot of flak for appearing greedy. Also, there are far better ways to get publicity than halting group promotions for several days (and possibly longer, since the girls agreed to continue working even though their contracts were in dispute).

.


I don't know what flak your talking about

IIRC, this is what happened:

hsy, nicole and jiyoung : we only get $3000 a year

DSP: they each earn $300,000 yearly. And we have it in our records.

Reporter : can we see it?

DSP:...no

There seems to be alot of controversy lately so yeah, i started thinking that pub stunts are an effective method.
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote: being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal. Avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. If you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.
betamale
Profile Joined September 2010
633 Posts
February 22 2012 02:52 GMT
#49159
Hara's one can just be the instrumental version as her bones just slap against each other while she dances
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
February 22 2012 02:55 GMT
#49160
On February 22 2012 11:46 sharky246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 11:18 DystopiaX wrote:

@Sharky- doubt it, girls got a lot of flak for appearing greedy. Also, there are far better ways to get publicity than halting group promotions for several days (and possibly longer, since the girls agreed to continue working even though their contracts were in dispute).

.


I don't know what flak your talking about

IIRC, this is what happened:

hsy, nicole and jiyoung : we only get $3000 a year

DSP: they each earn $300,000 yearly. And we have it in our records.

Reporter : can we see it?

DSP:...no

There seems to be alot of controversy lately so yeah, i started thinking that pub stunts are an effective method.

People were posting angry things about how the girls were stupid and/or greedy and/or lying about the whole thing. Not good publicity.
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