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Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
February 16 2015 03:44 GMT
#92301
Wait, Junketsu no Maria is from the same guy who did Moyashimon? Picked up.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
February 16 2015 03:55 GMT
#92302
Akatsuki no Yona 9

Hak + Yona so cute together .. I wish Hak doesn't get friendzoned in the future episode. Or worse i hope Yona doesn't say shit like "But you are like my brother" . Hak can't handle that much torture.
this is a quote
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
February 16 2015 03:56 GMT
#92303
On February 16 2015 12:55 goody153 wrote:
Akatsuki no Yona 9

Hak + Yona so cute together .. I wish Hak doesn't get friendzoned in the future episode. Or worse i hope Yona doesn't say shit like "But you are like my brother" . Hak can't handle that much torture.


You are going to love future episodes. :D especially the last episode that aired. haha
Never Knows Best.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
February 16 2015 03:58 GMT
#92304
On February 16 2015 12:56 Slaughter wrote:
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On February 16 2015 12:55 goody153 wrote:
Akatsuki no Yona 9

Hak + Yona so cute together .. I wish Hak doesn't get friendzoned in the future episode. Or worse i hope Yona doesn't say shit like "But you are like my brother" . Hak can't handle that much torture.


You are going to love future episodes. :D especially the last episode that aired. haha

no sarcasm ?
this is a quote
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-16 04:08:36
February 16 2015 04:07 GMT
#92305
On February 16 2015 12:58 goody153 wrote:
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On February 16 2015 12:56 Slaughter wrote:
On February 16 2015 12:55 goody153 wrote:
Akatsuki no Yona 9

Hak + Yona so cute together .. I wish Hak doesn't get friendzoned in the future episode. Or worse i hope Yona doesn't say shit like "But you are like my brother" . Hak can't handle that much torture.


You are going to love future episodes. :D especially the last episode that aired. haha

no sarcasm ?


Keep watching to find out, but its not going to be a fast developing romance (if it happens) because Hak has only recently allowed himself to even think he has a chance. His whole life was basically setting up to support Yona and Su-Won as a couple and to be there for them as a protector and friend. Because of this he has treated Yona basically in a friend/brother-like manner the entire time he has known her (as you can see from his constant teasing and their bickering) so yea Yona isn't going to do a 180 and suddenly see him that way (especially because they have much bigger things to worry about). Hak is probably the most important person to her atm, but will that turn into romantic feelings? The story is good at slow playing it with subtle shifts and hints here or there that could be meaningful (or not).
Never Knows Best.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
February 16 2015 04:14 GMT
#92306
I'm ok with that kind of development.

I was just worried you are approving what i said about hak gonna get family/friend-zoned lol.
this is a quote
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
February 16 2015 04:29 GMT
#92307
On February 16 2015 09:25 Leyra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 08:59 Miragee wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:52 Sentenal wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:19 Miragee wrote:
With "generic" I meant it's like the others. I thought it would have more approaches like HxH with tactical fights, good plot/character development and interesting villians. The reviews I read all pointed towards that. That's all.

I'm not a particular fan of shounen, that's for sure. I dropped One Piece a long time ago because I got too bored of all the ridiculously drawn-out fights and power-ups. I can handle them if there is an interesting setting, good characters and development/plot. For all the shit Fairy Tail recieves I think it did well in all three departments. But those are the only long Shounen I ever watched. I only decided to watch Yu Yu Hakusho because of the premise of delivering something different. I never would have thought about starting something like Dragon Ball for example (although I have seen some episode back when I was a kid).

The correct way of looking at it, rather than "its like the others", its more like "others are like it".


It doesn't really matter though. It doesn't make it look better it just makes the others look worse.


It kind of does matter His point is, if you had watched YYH when it was released, it would have been pretty fresh, new, unique, etc. But yeah, 20+ years later, it looks kinda stale and boring, as there's been a million shows that took what made that show popular and re-hashed em.

Basically, it's a 20 year old show that was "something different" for it's time. At least that's how the argument looks for me. Personally I think it's as Shounen as Shounen gets, and I don't particularly care for Shounen.



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On February 16 2015 07:31 Faust852 wrote:
Finished Steins;Gate, probably the best anime I have ever seen.



Hell yes. I love Steins;Gate, my favorite show of all time :D


S;G was good

Anyone rewatched it? Is it rewatchable? Or, knowing the plot, the story becomes less interesting?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-16 04:35:58
February 16 2015 04:35 GMT
#92308
On February 16 2015 13:14 goody153 wrote:
I'm ok with that kind of development.

I was just worried you are approving what i said about hak gonna get family/friend-zoned lol.


It hasn't happened either way in the source yet because there is a lot of things going on. My initial post was mostly laughing at the fact that you said "I hope Yona doesn't say more things like....but you are like my brother".



Edit: Rolling Girls continues to be fun. The art style and some of the flashy, over the top animations really remind me of KLK.
Never Knows Best.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
February 16 2015 05:09 GMT
#92309
Waiting for Nanatsu on a weekly basis is pretty suffering.

Thats always literally the first thing I think of every Sunday morning when I wake up..
Skol
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
February 16 2015 06:41 GMT
#92310
On February 15 2015 23:27 Numy wrote:
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On February 15 2015 18:49 BigFan wrote:
On February 15 2015 17:20 HolydaKing wrote:
Enjoyed World Trigger very much. Excited for the next episodes. + Show Spoiler +
Osamu or whatever the MC is called is most likely gonna get wrecked, still I got hope that he improves at one point...
Meanwhile, the other two just stomped their first C challenge which was quite expected. :D

yes! I'm also loving the show as well. One of the best atm.
+ Show Spoiler +
Well they did say he gets stomped in the preview but that he has something up his sleeve one he finds out about Jin so I anticipate a big surprise.
lol ya, I had a chuckle when Chika destroyed their headquarter's wall lol. Was hoping to see Yuma fight someone, maybe next episode then.


I would really enjoy World Trigger more if the animation and pacing was done better. It feels like every small detail gets dragged maybe half a second longer than it should have been. Makes the episodes feel a lot "duller" than they should.

edit: Cross Ange 19 - Pretty decent. Nothing really new but nice confirmation. I do find it funny how people keep saying there are "plot twists" when there haven't been any twists for awhile. Guess people are really bad at picking up foreshadowing even when it's shoved into their face.

hmm it's pacing isn't too bad imo although yes, there have been episodes where I think they could've easily made 2-3 episodes into 1-2 episodes. They could've probably done it in the latest episodes as well but at least it can be tolerated lol.

Cross Ange: + Show Spoiler +
Wasn't really surprised to see Embryo stay alive despite Ange shooting him at point blank. Same with all the other stuff. Poor Riza though. You can tell she was in pain Also, Ange making Embryo get even more interested in her after that dramatic scene lol. I do wonder how they plan to end this though. I mean, if he can't be killed, maybe he can be reasoned with? If not, hope his death isn't some bizzare way (if it even somehow comes to mind).

The whole stuff with the other girls like Ersha and such make sense imo based on what happened in that episode when Arzenal was attacked by Ange's brother.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-16 09:42:36
February 16 2015 09:41 GMT
#92311
My guess is that they are probably all zombies (embryo+ the revived people) and they are all linked to the dragon (dragon leaves the cell then everything is fucked).

this is not some major spoiler but just my guess lol
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8634 Posts
February 16 2015 10:34 GMT
#92312
On February 16 2015 09:37 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 08:59 Miragee wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:52 Sentenal wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:19 Miragee wrote:
With "generic" I meant it's like the others. I thought it would have more approaches like HxH with tactical fights, good plot/character development and interesting villians. The reviews I read all pointed towards that. That's all.

I'm not a particular fan of shounen, that's for sure. I dropped One Piece a long time ago because I got too bored of all the ridiculously drawn-out fights and power-ups. I can handle them if there is an interesting setting, good characters and development/plot. For all the shit Fairy Tail recieves I think it did well in all three departments. But those are the only long Shounen I ever watched. I only decided to watch Yu Yu Hakusho because of the premise of delivering something different. I never would have thought about starting something like Dragon Ball for example (although I have seen some episode back when I was a kid).

The correct way of looking at it, rather than "its like the others", its more like "others are like it".


It doesn't really matter though. It doesn't make it look better it just makes the others look worse.

Except it does matter, unless you live in some imaginary world where Yu Yu Hakusho isn't a 20 year old show that defined the genre.

If the complaint is "I've seen this a million times before" and "this is generic", your complaint is without merit. If you just don't like shounen, then its like, w/e, not sure why you watched it.


Well, my complain isn't really that it _is_ generic but more about the characteristics that are known as generic shounen tropes. I don't think it makes the show better because it invented that stuff back in the day. Only because it was new it wasn't better than the same thing 10 years later. Something new only disguises the bad things because new things make humans excited. Then, as soon as it loses it's "new"-status it shows it's true face.
That being said, I often went through the show thinking "oh ok, this trope originated here, good to know".

To the point why I watched it: As I said, I'm not really sure, either. I think the show was fine overall because of the humor and some characters. But it wasn't what I expected after reading all the reviews which basically all agreed that Yu Yu Hakusho isn't your "generic" shounen but more like a spiritual predecessor to HxH. I read about tactical combat, deep conversations and while all admitted that YYH set food for a lot of shounen tropes they also said that it does a lot of things right that generic, currently popular shounen do "wrong".
In the end, I think I was misslead by the reviews and was disappointed because I expected something different. It's not like that I call the anime itself generic or refuse to ackknowledge the impact it had. But it doesn't do it's reputation justice.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
February 16 2015 10:45 GMT
#92313
On February 16 2015 19:34 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 09:37 Sentenal wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:59 Miragee wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:52 Sentenal wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:19 Miragee wrote:
With "generic" I meant it's like the others. I thought it would have more approaches like HxH with tactical fights, good plot/character development and interesting villians. The reviews I read all pointed towards that. That's all.

I'm not a particular fan of shounen, that's for sure. I dropped One Piece a long time ago because I got too bored of all the ridiculously drawn-out fights and power-ups. I can handle them if there is an interesting setting, good characters and development/plot. For all the shit Fairy Tail recieves I think it did well in all three departments. But those are the only long Shounen I ever watched. I only decided to watch Yu Yu Hakusho because of the premise of delivering something different. I never would have thought about starting something like Dragon Ball for example (although I have seen some episode back when I was a kid).

The correct way of looking at it, rather than "its like the others", its more like "others are like it".


It doesn't really matter though. It doesn't make it look better it just makes the others look worse.

Except it does matter, unless you live in some imaginary world where Yu Yu Hakusho isn't a 20 year old show that defined the genre.

If the complaint is "I've seen this a million times before" and "this is generic", your complaint is without merit. If you just don't like shounen, then its like, w/e, not sure why you watched it.


Well, my complain isn't really that it _is_ generic but more about the characteristics that are known as generic shounen tropes. I don't think it makes the show better because it invented that stuff back in the day. Only because it was new it wasn't better than the same thing 10 years later. Something new only disguises the bad things because new things make humans excited. Then, as soon as it loses it's "new"-status it shows it's true face.
That being said, I often went through the show thinking "oh ok, this trope originated here, good to know".

To the point why I watched it: As I said, I'm not really sure, either. I think the show was fine overall because of the humor and some characters. But it wasn't what I expected after reading all the reviews which basically all agreed that Yu Yu Hakusho isn't your "generic" shounen but more like a spiritual predecessor to HxH. I read about tactical combat, deep conversations and while all admitted that YYH set food for a lot of shounen tropes they also said that it does a lot of things right that generic, currently popular shounen do "wrong".
In the end, I think I was misslead by the reviews and was disappointed because I expected something different. It's not like that I call the anime itself generic or refuse to ackknowledge the impact it had. But it doesn't do it's reputation justice.


Yu Yu Hakusho's charm doesn't fade. I have watched the whole series like 3x now.
Never Knows Best.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 16 2015 11:02 GMT
#92314
On February 16 2015 13:14 goody153 wrote:
I'm ok with that kind of development.

I was just worried you are approving what i said about hak gonna get family/friend-zoned lol.


Oh man you going to love one moment later. At first I almost threw a table through the window when she spoke but with some thought it was pretty sweet moment.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50625 Posts
February 16 2015 12:00 GMT
#92315
On February 16 2015 19:45 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 19:34 Miragee wrote:
On February 16 2015 09:37 Sentenal wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:59 Miragee wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:52 Sentenal wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:19 Miragee wrote:
With "generic" I meant it's like the others. I thought it would have more approaches like HxH with tactical fights, good plot/character development and interesting villians. The reviews I read all pointed towards that. That's all.

I'm not a particular fan of shounen, that's for sure. I dropped One Piece a long time ago because I got too bored of all the ridiculously drawn-out fights and power-ups. I can handle them if there is an interesting setting, good characters and development/plot. For all the shit Fairy Tail recieves I think it did well in all three departments. But those are the only long Shounen I ever watched. I only decided to watch Yu Yu Hakusho because of the premise of delivering something different. I never would have thought about starting something like Dragon Ball for example (although I have seen some episode back when I was a kid).

The correct way of looking at it, rather than "its like the others", its more like "others are like it".


It doesn't really matter though. It doesn't make it look better it just makes the others look worse.

Except it does matter, unless you live in some imaginary world where Yu Yu Hakusho isn't a 20 year old show that defined the genre.

If the complaint is "I've seen this a million times before" and "this is generic", your complaint is without merit. If you just don't like shounen, then its like, w/e, not sure why you watched it.


Well, my complain isn't really that it _is_ generic but more about the characteristics that are known as generic shounen tropes. I don't think it makes the show better because it invented that stuff back in the day. Only because it was new it wasn't better than the same thing 10 years later. Something new only disguises the bad things because new things make humans excited. Then, as soon as it loses it's "new"-status it shows it's true face.
That being said, I often went through the show thinking "oh ok, this trope originated here, good to know".

To the point why I watched it: As I said, I'm not really sure, either. I think the show was fine overall because of the humor and some characters. But it wasn't what I expected after reading all the reviews which basically all agreed that Yu Yu Hakusho isn't your "generic" shounen but more like a spiritual predecessor to HxH. I read about tactical combat, deep conversations and while all admitted that YYH set food for a lot of shounen tropes they also said that it does a lot of things right that generic, currently popular shounen do "wrong".
In the end, I think I was misslead by the reviews and was disappointed because I expected something different. It's not like that I call the anime itself generic or refuse to ackknowledge the impact it had. But it doesn't do it's reputation justice.


Yu Yu Hakusho's charm doesn't fade. I have watched the whole series like 3x now.


to be honest, its all nostalgia for me.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
February 16 2015 12:05 GMT
#92316
On February 16 2015 20:02 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 13:14 goody153 wrote:
I'm ok with that kind of development.

I was just worried you are approving what i said about hak gonna get family/friend-zoned lol.


Oh man you going to love one moment later. At first I almost threw a table through the window when she spoke but with some thought it was pretty sweet moment.

now i just have to finish every damn episode tomorrow .. damn it Numy

On February 16 2015 21:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 19:45 Slaughter wrote:
On February 16 2015 19:34 Miragee wrote:
On February 16 2015 09:37 Sentenal wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:59 Miragee wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:52 Sentenal wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:19 Miragee wrote:
With "generic" I meant it's like the others. I thought it would have more approaches like HxH with tactical fights, good plot/character development and interesting villians. The reviews I read all pointed towards that. That's all.

I'm not a particular fan of shounen, that's for sure. I dropped One Piece a long time ago because I got too bored of all the ridiculously drawn-out fights and power-ups. I can handle them if there is an interesting setting, good characters and development/plot. For all the shit Fairy Tail recieves I think it did well in all three departments. But those are the only long Shounen I ever watched. I only decided to watch Yu Yu Hakusho because of the premise of delivering something different. I never would have thought about starting something like Dragon Ball for example (although I have seen some episode back when I was a kid).

The correct way of looking at it, rather than "its like the others", its more like "others are like it".


It doesn't really matter though. It doesn't make it look better it just makes the others look worse.

Except it does matter, unless you live in some imaginary world where Yu Yu Hakusho isn't a 20 year old show that defined the genre.

If the complaint is "I've seen this a million times before" and "this is generic", your complaint is without merit. If you just don't like shounen, then its like, w/e, not sure why you watched it.


Well, my complain isn't really that it _is_ generic but more about the characteristics that are known as generic shounen tropes. I don't think it makes the show better because it invented that stuff back in the day. Only because it was new it wasn't better than the same thing 10 years later. Something new only disguises the bad things because new things make humans excited. Then, as soon as it loses it's "new"-status it shows it's true face.
That being said, I often went through the show thinking "oh ok, this trope originated here, good to know".

To the point why I watched it: As I said, I'm not really sure, either. I think the show was fine overall because of the humor and some characters. But it wasn't what I expected after reading all the reviews which basically all agreed that Yu Yu Hakusho isn't your "generic" shounen but more like a spiritual predecessor to HxH. I read about tactical combat, deep conversations and while all admitted that YYH set food for a lot of shounen tropes they also said that it does a lot of things right that generic, currently popular shounen do "wrong".
In the end, I think I was misslead by the reviews and was disappointed because I expected something different. It's not like that I call the anime itself generic or refuse to ackknowledge the impact it had. But it doesn't do it's reputation justice.


Yu Yu Hakusho's charm doesn't fade. I have watched the whole series like 3x now.


to be honest, its all nostalgia for me.


me too

it's like DBZ i know it's nothing new but whenever it's on the television i can't get my eyes off

btw did you know that Yu Yu Hakusho was called "Ghost Fighter" here ? for i have no idea why
this is a quote
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
February 16 2015 12:42 GMT
#92317
On February 16 2015 21:05 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 20:02 Numy wrote:
On February 16 2015 13:14 goody153 wrote:
I'm ok with that kind of development.

I was just worried you are approving what i said about hak gonna get family/friend-zoned lol.


Oh man you going to love one moment later. At first I almost threw a table through the window when she spoke but with some thought it was pretty sweet moment.

now i just have to finish every damn episode tomorrow .. damn it Numy

Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 21:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 16 2015 19:45 Slaughter wrote:
On February 16 2015 19:34 Miragee wrote:
On February 16 2015 09:37 Sentenal wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:59 Miragee wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:52 Sentenal wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:19 Miragee wrote:
With "generic" I meant it's like the others. I thought it would have more approaches like HxH with tactical fights, good plot/character development and interesting villians. The reviews I read all pointed towards that. That's all.

I'm not a particular fan of shounen, that's for sure. I dropped One Piece a long time ago because I got too bored of all the ridiculously drawn-out fights and power-ups. I can handle them if there is an interesting setting, good characters and development/plot. For all the shit Fairy Tail recieves I think it did well in all three departments. But those are the only long Shounen I ever watched. I only decided to watch Yu Yu Hakusho because of the premise of delivering something different. I never would have thought about starting something like Dragon Ball for example (although I have seen some episode back when I was a kid).

The correct way of looking at it, rather than "its like the others", its more like "others are like it".


It doesn't really matter though. It doesn't make it look better it just makes the others look worse.

Except it does matter, unless you live in some imaginary world where Yu Yu Hakusho isn't a 20 year old show that defined the genre.

If the complaint is "I've seen this a million times before" and "this is generic", your complaint is without merit. If you just don't like shounen, then its like, w/e, not sure why you watched it.


Well, my complain isn't really that it _is_ generic but more about the characteristics that are known as generic shounen tropes. I don't think it makes the show better because it invented that stuff back in the day. Only because it was new it wasn't better than the same thing 10 years later. Something new only disguises the bad things because new things make humans excited. Then, as soon as it loses it's "new"-status it shows it's true face.
That being said, I often went through the show thinking "oh ok, this trope originated here, good to know".

To the point why I watched it: As I said, I'm not really sure, either. I think the show was fine overall because of the humor and some characters. But it wasn't what I expected after reading all the reviews which basically all agreed that Yu Yu Hakusho isn't your "generic" shounen but more like a spiritual predecessor to HxH. I read about tactical combat, deep conversations and while all admitted that YYH set food for a lot of shounen tropes they also said that it does a lot of things right that generic, currently popular shounen do "wrong".
In the end, I think I was misslead by the reviews and was disappointed because I expected something different. It's not like that I call the anime itself generic or refuse to ackknowledge the impact it had. But it doesn't do it's reputation justice.


Yu Yu Hakusho's charm doesn't fade. I have watched the whole series like 3x now.


to be honest, its all nostalgia for me.


me too

it's like DBZ i know it's nothing new but whenever it's on the television i can't get my eyes off

btw did you know that Yu Yu Hakusho was called "Ghost Fighter" here ? for i have no idea why


Rewatching DBZ is always really weird. It's amazing how much they reuse animation. I do feel like watching old shows is always good to see the inspiration of so many other shows. Even when authors say they're trying something new, a lot of them grew up on DB and it's influenced their style regardless.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8634 Posts
February 16 2015 13:56 GMT
#92318
So I started watching Yuri Kuma Arashi, 3 episodes in. Man that show is creepy but I at least want to watch it until that hilarious fish scene, lol.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
February 16 2015 15:22 GMT
#92319
On February 16 2015 19:34 Miragee wrote:
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On February 16 2015 09:37 Sentenal wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:59 Miragee wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:52 Sentenal wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:19 Miragee wrote:
With "generic" I meant it's like the others. I thought it would have more approaches like HxH with tactical fights, good plot/character development and interesting villians. The reviews I read all pointed towards that. That's all.

I'm not a particular fan of shounen, that's for sure. I dropped One Piece a long time ago because I got too bored of all the ridiculously drawn-out fights and power-ups. I can handle them if there is an interesting setting, good characters and development/plot. For all the shit Fairy Tail recieves I think it did well in all three departments. But those are the only long Shounen I ever watched. I only decided to watch Yu Yu Hakusho because of the premise of delivering something different. I never would have thought about starting something like Dragon Ball for example (although I have seen some episode back when I was a kid).

The correct way of looking at it, rather than "its like the others", its more like "others are like it".


It doesn't really matter though. It doesn't make it look better it just makes the others look worse.

Except it does matter, unless you live in some imaginary world where Yu Yu Hakusho isn't a 20 year old show that defined the genre.

If the complaint is "I've seen this a million times before" and "this is generic", your complaint is without merit. If you just don't like shounen, then its like, w/e, not sure why you watched it.


Well, my complain isn't really that it _is_ generic but more about the characteristics that are known as generic shounen tropes. I don't think it makes the show better because it invented that stuff back in the day. Only because it was new it wasn't better than the same thing 10 years later. Something new only disguises the bad things because new things make humans excited. Then, as soon as it loses it's "new"-status it shows it's true face.
That being said, I often went through the show thinking "oh ok, this trope originated here, good to know".

To the point why I watched it: As I said, I'm not really sure, either. I think the show was fine overall because of the humor and some characters. But it wasn't what I expected after reading all the reviews which basically all agreed that Yu Yu Hakusho isn't your "generic" shounen but more like a spiritual predecessor to HxH. I read about tactical combat, deep conversations and while all admitted that YYH set food for a lot of shounen tropes they also said that it does a lot of things right that generic, currently popular shounen do "wrong".
In the end, I think I was misslead by the reviews and was disappointed because I expected something different. It's not like that I call the anime itself generic or refuse to ackknowledge the impact it had. But it doesn't do it's reputation justice.


That's just stupid... you have to judge stuff by their context. Otherwise you would look at Edison and think he is a dumbarse, and the Wright brothers as some weird hippies.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8634 Posts
February 16 2015 15:59 GMT
#92320
On February 17 2015 00:22 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 19:34 Miragee wrote:
On February 16 2015 09:37 Sentenal wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:59 Miragee wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:52 Sentenal wrote:
On February 16 2015 08:19 Miragee wrote:
With "generic" I meant it's like the others. I thought it would have more approaches like HxH with tactical fights, good plot/character development and interesting villians. The reviews I read all pointed towards that. That's all.

I'm not a particular fan of shounen, that's for sure. I dropped One Piece a long time ago because I got too bored of all the ridiculously drawn-out fights and power-ups. I can handle them if there is an interesting setting, good characters and development/plot. For all the shit Fairy Tail recieves I think it did well in all three departments. But those are the only long Shounen I ever watched. I only decided to watch Yu Yu Hakusho because of the premise of delivering something different. I never would have thought about starting something like Dragon Ball for example (although I have seen some episode back when I was a kid).

The correct way of looking at it, rather than "its like the others", its more like "others are like it".


It doesn't really matter though. It doesn't make it look better it just makes the others look worse.

Except it does matter, unless you live in some imaginary world where Yu Yu Hakusho isn't a 20 year old show that defined the genre.

If the complaint is "I've seen this a million times before" and "this is generic", your complaint is without merit. If you just don't like shounen, then its like, w/e, not sure why you watched it.


Well, my complain isn't really that it _is_ generic but more about the characteristics that are known as generic shounen tropes. I don't think it makes the show better because it invented that stuff back in the day. Only because it was new it wasn't better than the same thing 10 years later. Something new only disguises the bad things because new things make humans excited. Then, as soon as it loses it's "new"-status it shows it's true face.
That being said, I often went through the show thinking "oh ok, this trope originated here, good to know".

To the point why I watched it: As I said, I'm not really sure, either. I think the show was fine overall because of the humor and some characters. But it wasn't what I expected after reading all the reviews which basically all agreed that Yu Yu Hakusho isn't your "generic" shounen but more like a spiritual predecessor to HxH. I read about tactical combat, deep conversations and while all admitted that YYH set food for a lot of shounen tropes they also said that it does a lot of things right that generic, currently popular shounen do "wrong".
In the end, I think I was misslead by the reviews and was disappointed because I expected something different. It's not like that I call the anime itself generic or refuse to ackknowledge the impact it had. But it doesn't do it's reputation justice.


That's just stupid... you have to judge stuff by their context. Otherwise you would look at Edison and think he is a dumbarse, and the Wright brothers as some weird hippies.


Call it stupid all you want. You can judge these things in two different ways: One is by their context and influencial effects and the other is by their enjoyment factor compared to what is currently accomplished. I think both have their place. While the first one is important to show history and development, the second one is important for recommendations for example. As said, I don't refuse to ackknowledge the impact the show had and how it was at the time it was released. However, one shouldn't use that as a parameter to recommend how awesome that series is to watch _now_ if there are a lot of better shows out there that eliminated blunders from the old show.
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