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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
June 21 2014 00:24 GMT
#77621
Are they the idiots that made Zoro's name into Zolo in the English manga adaptations as well? God it irks me every time I see it.
Never Knows Best.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 21 2014 00:25 GMT
#77622
Yeah. They are also the idiots who changed Smoker's name to Chaser, and Ace to Trace.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
June 21 2014 00:29 GMT
#77623
On June 21 2014 09:22 Sentenal wrote:
Look at this shit:


Editing guns into squirt guns, taking out all blood, taking away all of Smoker's cigars, or one of my personal favorites, editing a pistol into this hand held hammer-spring... thing.

4kids is exactly the reason why I haven't been able to get a lot of friends to give One Piece a shot.


That's some sick censorship. O__O
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
June 21 2014 00:30 GMT
#77624
Lol that video. What a train wreck of an adaption. Oda is probably pissed at such a handling of his work and a shame that it kills OP potential to have a broader exposure in the US.

Those name changes though.....I really really really don't even know WHY YOU WOULD FUCKING DO THAT. Are you worried about the fucking mexican batman suing?
Never Knows Best.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
June 21 2014 00:31 GMT
#77625
On June 21 2014 09:14 Zergneedsfood wrote:
He could easily be an Eca. Almost everyone I know follows Naruto out of waiting with a cringe in the back of their neck for the end. And again, watching Naruto has no bearing on whether or not he'll like Geass/AoT as much as anything else. You have no idea how many people I've met who for the weirdest of reasons will prefer Naruto but hate on Geass/AoT like it's the end of the world or vice versa.

You have just as equal a chance at hitting a good anime as I do. That, I have absolutely no doubt. I don't think the correlation between these shows and liking them is as strong as you say it is.

Show nested quote +
You can surely, SURELY use your brilliant mind to deduce this guy's preferences, and currently FLCL and Cowboy Bebop have less of a chance of being well-received than Geass and Attack on Titan.


I don't think they're that much less that you have to say we have shit recs for it. Again, I was merely offering a suggestion that I think was reasonable since I only was really asking questions and stipulating. There was no reason to just go out of your way and act like you're the only one who had a reasonable recommendation.

Show nested quote +
What makes you think this guy is part of that wider audience? You are not addressing the all-important question.


I don't think you're allowed to say this when you're telling him to watch Code Geass and Attack on Titan. Just saying.


Everything you say just oozes of your lack of understanding of people and their particular tastes. Just bringing up more anecdotes confirms this. Once again, he likes or at least LIKED Naruto (the chances of him being an eca are even slimmer), didn't like FMA, but likes action. I'm not basing my recommendation just on the fact that he likes/liked Naruto. The very fact that you can say that he has as much of a chance to like FLCL as something like Geass/AoT is incredibly facepalm worthy. It's possible he could like FLCL and hate Geass/AoT, but in my opinion this is a percentages game and the percentages go something like: AoT 80%, Geass 70%, Bebop 60%, FLCL 40%.

And your jab at the end there further proves that you have no idea what you're talking about and that you aren't treating this guy's preferences as an important factor in recommending him anything. What's the point of recommending people things when you aren't even gonna try to understand what they like? If I told you I liked Backstreet Boys but you recommended me Wiz Khalifa just because he is accepted by a "wider audience," I think I'd stab you and never ask for a recommendation from you ever again.

Do we have a need to go any further on this topic 'cause I think not.

On June 21 2014 09:15 Sentenal wrote:
This entire thing is because you were getting on ZNF about him recommending Cowboy Bebop, when there isn't anything wrong with reccing it at all, since it IS a western anime noob friendly anime. You are having your pissing contest by saynig stuff like "SURELY you can see that these other anime are BETTER than YOUR recommendation".

Anyway, I already said my piece about what I'd actually recommend, but I think you are being crazy for having this whole thing with ZNF and his recommendations.

Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 09:15 Slaughter wrote:
I wonder why adult swim never acquired One Piece since they show Bleach (and I think they do Naruto too?).

Also good ole fashioned argument over stupid shit that doesn't matter. We haven't had one in a while, keep it up guys!

There is a good reason for that: 4kids. Ruined One Piece's chances over here.


My biggest beef with znf's recommendations is actually FLCL and not Bebop. I think Bebop is a fine recommendation, it just, in this particular case, not the "safer" recommendation since he likes Naruto but not FMA. It has nothing to do with just being a "western anime noob" but moreso that this guy seems to just like mindless action. In the end though I guess it is a pissing contest.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-21 00:36:30
June 21 2014 00:31 GMT
#77626
Turned Sanji's cigarette into a loli-pop, took out all cleavage, turned all guns into squirt guns or worse, people who have cigars in their mouth just sorta breath out smoke and have their mouth constantly ajar, Luffy vs Crocodile with sweat replacing blood, and so many pointless other changes. 4kids, real terror.


edit:
Souma, what does "liking Naruto and not liking FMA" have to do with Code Geass, SnK, Cowboy Bebop, or FLCL? There is a disconnect here I'm not getting. Is it because Geass and SnK are bad, like how Naruto is bad, or something? Code Geass, for example, isn't mindless action. Sure, its mindless, but its mindless keikakus.

On June 21 2014 09:30 Slaughter wrote:
Lol that video. What a train wreck of an adaption. Oda is probably pissed at such a handling of his work and a shame that it kills OP potential to have a broader exposure in the US.

Those name changes though.....I really really really don't even know WHY YOU WOULD FUCKING DO THAT. Are you worried about the fucking mexican batman suing?

Probably more worried about kids associating Zoro's character with Mexican Batman.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-21 00:41:08
June 21 2014 00:39 GMT
#77627
Yes, it is because Geass and SnK are bad similarly to how Naruto is bad (though I actually liked Geass S1). I rate Geass lower than SnK on the things-he-might-like-list because, as you said, it isn't exactly mindless action, but it is action-packed and shit is always happening. I guess that's what I meant and not "mindless" action. On the otherhand, Bebop is more similar to FMA in that it has many lulls. FLCL is... FLCL.
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-21 00:44:50
June 21 2014 00:41 GMT
#77628
On June 21 2014 09:31 Sentenal wrote:for example, isn't mindless action. Sure, its mindless, but its mindless keikakus.


So much keikaku. :3

I like actually like the keikakus. They were amusing.

And your jab at the end there further proves that you have no idea what you're talking about and that you aren't treating this guy's preferences as an important factor in recommending him anything.


You're assuming this guy's preferences based on two shows that are listed, one you aren't even sure if he even likes to a significant degree, and the other only proves that something shounen might not be the best fit (AoT has quite a lot of powerpoint scenes between fights). Everyone knows that "lots of action" is not something Naruto gets attached to with its constant filler, down time, and excessive dialogue between fights

I'm not the one that assumes that I can spew out arbitrary percentages based on a two show sample size. I really think you're making too big a deal out of how accurate you are or how much you're putting yourself in the mind of someone else who likes Naruto, which, if anything, is more or less you characterizing him as the average Naruto fan, which I think is just generalizing and not anymore legitimate than me saying that he might want to check out FLCL/Baccano/Cowboy Bebop and see if he likes it. FLCL by the way was the third anime I mentioned after the first two.

There was no reason for you to get on my case about recommendations when they were just slight suggestions, and if anything more or less suggestions at Requizen since he knows this guy better than either of us and could figure out if perhaps something with a more Western focused show with lots of action could appeal to him.

Edit: Also Requizen said "lots of action." Not "mindless action."

Edit #2: Fuck you Requizen.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-21 00:43:38
June 21 2014 00:42 GMT
#77629
I guess thats that, then. In an attempt to change the subject to something less cancerous:

[image loading]

How much mecha is too much mecha??? Clearly, type 6 is the best.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
June 21 2014 00:44 GMT
#77630
I like 7. I loved Wall-E. :3
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
June 21 2014 00:46 GMT
#77631
On June 21 2014 09:41 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 09:31 Sentenal wrote:for example, isn't mindless action. Sure, its mindless, but its mindless keikakus.


So much keikaku. :3

I like actually like the keikakus. They were amusing.

Show nested quote +
And your jab at the end there further proves that you have no idea what you're talking about and that you aren't treating this guy's preferences as an important factor in recommending him anything.


You're assuming this guy's preferences based on two shows that are listed, one you aren't even sure if he even likes to a significant degree, and the other only proves that something shounen might not be the best fit (AoT has quite a lot of powerpoint scenes between fights). Everyone knows that "lots of action" is not something Naruto gets attached to with its constant filler, down time, and excessive dialogue between fights

I'm not the one that assumes that I can spew out arbitrary percentages based on a two show sample size. I really think you're making too big a deal out of how accurate you are or how much you're putting yourself in the mind of someone else who likes Naruto, which, if anything, is more or less you characterizing him as the average Naruto fan, which I think is just generalizing and not anymore legitimate than me saying that he might want to check out FLCL/Baccano/Cowboy Bebop and see if he likes it. FLCL by the way was the third anime I mentioned after the first two.

There was no reason for you to get on my case about recommendations when they were just slight suggestions.

Edit: Also Requizen said "lots of action." Not "mindless action."


At least I'm assuming stuff based on what this guy has liked or not liked. What are you doing? Throwing darts out of thin air?

Naruto is lots of action. Even their fillers have lots of action. Whether it's actually good action or not is another story altogether, but saying that it isn't lots of action is a ridiculous statement.

Once again you're just telling him to check out stuff that are accessible. How about you at least TRY to make a guess? That's your problem right there. Once again, Backstreet Boys... Wiz Khalifa.
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Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
June 21 2014 00:48 GMT
#77632
On June 21 2014 09:31 Sentenal wrote:
Turned Sanji's cigarette into a loli-pop, took out all cleavage, turned all guns into squirt guns or worse, people who have cigars in their mouth just sorta breath out smoke and have their mouth constantly ajar, Luffy vs Crocodile with sweat replacing blood, and so many pointless other changes. 4kids, real terror.


edit:
Souma, what does "liking Naruto and not liking FMA" have to do with Code Geass, SnK, Cowboy Bebop, or FLCL? There is a disconnect here I'm not getting. Is it because Geass and SnK are bad, like how Naruto is bad, or something? Code Geass, for example, isn't mindless action. Sure, its mindless, but its mindless keikakus.

Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 09:30 Slaughter wrote:
Lol that video. What a train wreck of an adaption. Oda is probably pissed at such a handling of his work and a shame that it kills OP potential to have a broader exposure in the US.

Those name changes though.....I really really really don't even know WHY YOU WOULD FUCKING DO THAT. Are you worried about the fucking mexican batman suing?

Probably more worried about kids associating Zoro's character with Mexican Batman.

Probably the biggest sin for Sent.

Rofl. I liked EVE from WALL-E too.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
June 21 2014 00:49 GMT
#77633
I dislike 2-3, everything else is fine

Generally, fighting in massive robots just seems kind of ridiculous to me.
:)
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-21 00:50:46
June 21 2014 00:50 GMT
#77634
wtf how can one dislike Aegis
On June 21 2014 09:48 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 09:31 Sentenal wrote:
Turned Sanji's cigarette into a loli-pop, took out all cleavage, turned all guns into squirt guns or worse, people who have cigars in their mouth just sorta breath out smoke and have their mouth constantly ajar, Luffy vs Crocodile with sweat replacing blood, and so many pointless other changes. 4kids, real terror.


edit:
Souma, what does "liking Naruto and not liking FMA" have to do with Code Geass, SnK, Cowboy Bebop, or FLCL? There is a disconnect here I'm not getting. Is it because Geass and SnK are bad, like how Naruto is bad, or something? Code Geass, for example, isn't mindless action. Sure, its mindless, but its mindless keikakus.

On June 21 2014 09:30 Slaughter wrote:
Lol that video. What a train wreck of an adaption. Oda is probably pissed at such a handling of his work and a shame that it kills OP potential to have a broader exposure in the US.

Those name changes though.....I really really really don't even know WHY YOU WOULD FUCKING DO THAT. Are you worried about the fucking mexican batman suing?

Probably more worried about kids associating Zoro's character with Mexican Batman.

Probably the biggest sin for Sent.

Never forget, never forgive
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-21 00:52:31
June 21 2014 00:50 GMT
#77635
On June 21 2014 09:46 Souma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 09:41 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On June 21 2014 09:31 Sentenal wrote:for example, isn't mindless action. Sure, its mindless, but its mindless keikakus.


So much keikaku. :3

I like actually like the keikakus. They were amusing.

And your jab at the end there further proves that you have no idea what you're talking about and that you aren't treating this guy's preferences as an important factor in recommending him anything.


You're assuming this guy's preferences based on two shows that are listed, one you aren't even sure if he even likes to a significant degree, and the other only proves that something shounen might not be the best fit (AoT has quite a lot of powerpoint scenes between fights). Everyone knows that "lots of action" is not something Naruto gets attached to with its constant filler, down time, and excessive dialogue between fights

I'm not the one that assumes that I can spew out arbitrary percentages based on a two show sample size. I really think you're making too big a deal out of how accurate you are or how much you're putting yourself in the mind of someone else who likes Naruto, which, if anything, is more or less you characterizing him as the average Naruto fan, which I think is just generalizing and not anymore legitimate than me saying that he might want to check out FLCL/Baccano/Cowboy Bebop and see if he likes it. FLCL by the way was the third anime I mentioned after the first two.

There was no reason for you to get on my case about recommendations when they were just slight suggestions.

Edit: Also Requizen said "lots of action." Not "mindless action."


At least I'm assuming stuff based on what this guy has liked or not liked. What are you doing? Throwing darts out of thin air?

Naruto is lots of action. Even their fillers have lots of action. Whether it's actually good action or not is another story altogether, but saying that it isn't lots of action is a ridiculous statement.

Once again you're just telling him to check out stuff that are accessible. How about you at least TRY to make a guess? That's your problem right there. Once again, Backstreet Boys... Wiz Khalifa.


I didn't tell HIM. I suggested Requizen based on a few parameters. Did you not read my post?

I mean...why don't you give him like murican anime then? It sounds like that would help. Maybe Baccano, Cowboy Bebop? FLCL is also a good choice, especially the mindless action part.


It's not a "he would like X." It's not "I know what's good for you, thank me later." It's, why don't you try this? Maybe that might spark something.

Lay off the "you don't know wtf you're talking about" and "your recs are all shit" attitude. I've been telling you this entire time that all I was doing was making a suggestion and you're essentially saying that I was trying to act like some kind of authority on what he would like. If you really think that, read my post again.

All I'm saying is that these anime are perfectly fine as recommendations and are nowhere as close to being bad as you say. There was no reason for you to get on my, or anybody's case, as if your recommendations are the only ones that make sense.
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
June 21 2014 00:53 GMT
#77636
You're suggesting to Requizen what he should suggest to that guy. It's the same shit.

I find recommendations to be bad when you're just throwing out titles and not paying attention to the one who may eventually spend time watching said stuff. In the end he may like your stuff but it's like ??? Put some more thought into your recommendations because it can end up being a huge waste of time for the receiving end.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
June 21 2014 00:58 GMT
#77637
Well considering its Requizen who will be doing the actual recommendations (who knows more about the guy and anime in general), throwing out titles isn't as bad a thing because Req will act as the filter to make the final recommendation. So in a sense it doesn't matter as much because its more a process of reminding someone who knows about anime of titles that are in the general sphere of his original parameters so he can make a decision.
Never Knows Best.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
June 21 2014 01:04 GMT
#77638
I agree, it doesn't matter as much.

But in general and going forward, it would be much appreciated if people actually put a lot of thought into their recommendations. Nothing worse than wasting people's time by randomly tossing out titles and expecting them to like it.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
June 21 2014 01:05 GMT
#77639
On June 21 2014 09:42 Sentenal wrote:
I guess thats that, then. In an attempt to change the subject to something less cancerous:

[image loading]

How much mecha is too much mecha??? Clearly, type 6 is the best.


Type 6 isn't big enough.

Aigis is clearly the most superior of them all.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
June 21 2014 01:11 GMT
#77640
On June 21 2014 09:42 Sentenal wrote:
I guess thats that, then. In an attempt to change the subject to something less cancerous:

[image loading]

How much mecha is too much mecha??? Clearly, type 6 is the best.


3/4 best imo.
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