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On November 26 2012 04:38 Spazer wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 00:33 Maxie wrote:Finished Kara no Shoujo. I'll say that this is one of the best VN:s I've read (not that I have read very many). I'd probably still place MLA the highest, but I feel like they're a bit hard to compare (MLA is the most epic shit ever, that's for sure). + Show Spoiler + I had been slacking with it for quite a long time, but yesterday I got my shit together and started reading, for real. And, well, I've barely left my computer since, as I really wanted to solve everything, find the bastard(s) behind it all, and of course wanting to make sure the characters I liked survived. I believe (or maybe I dreamt it) Toko said at one point, "you can't save everyone". And I couldn't. That hurt quite a bit, at least when it comes to Toko (and no not the psycho Toko, aaah, that bad end with that psycho bitch...) and Tsuzuriko/Tojiko. Sure, in the first ending I ran into, Toko survived, but... with all limbs removed. At that point, I hoped there would be a better ending. Hah. That didn't happen.
True end was sad, but beautiful. As said, I was a bit foolish, hoping that there could possibly be a "happy" ending, but as soon as the accident happened again, I knew that wasn't going to happen. I'll admit, though, that I got very happy over the fact that Takashiro's wife (and her child) survived. It made for a nice ending scene, too.
Oh, and the moments when you discovered the different Kara no Shoujos.... the first time you run into the painting and how it looks exactly like Toko, the first four that Shinji made out of real people, the fresco, and of course... the original. Man... those moments. They were disturbing, and yet, I couldn't help but thinking that they (the KnS:es) were beautiful. Especially when you discovered the four together. Maybe I'm as mad as Shinji.
And Toko's painting... the moment you uncovered it, was so sad to me.
I liked the soundtrack quite a bit. In general the songs weren't that amazing, but the song from the menu and the two ending/credit songs were great.
Cartagra isn't translated is it? Oh, and hah, KnS 2 is in the works... let's just wait a few (or a lot) of years, shall we? Cartagra is translated (in theory), but nothing has come of it yet. An official translation also won't happen until KnS2 is released since Innocent Grey is busy.
Okay. Oh well, people say patience is a virtue >.>. I've waited for stuff before, haha.
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knim + Show Spoiler +Why do I still read this? Someone please shoot me, the last 50+ chapters have been nothing ;_;
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On November 25 2012 21:39 ragz_gt wrote: Because they are both trying to catch the Yubisaki Milktea train
I dropped KnJ but keeping up on KxS
Rika (new work by Miyano Tomochika) is probably better than them both
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The poll make me sad... so few people appreciate BakaBaka
Thx for the reccomendation i love you guys <3
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On November 26 2012 00:39 Recognizable wrote: Just watched the first Episode of JoJo, thought it was pretty cool. I think the last episode (epi 08) was the best so far.
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I just fixed Planetarian but appearantly it's really short, so I'll ask this already:
I was thinking of reading the Steins; Gate and Phantom of Inferno VNs, though I've already watched the anime for both. I assume that reading them is still totally worth it despite that?
Also, I'd like some other VN recommendations as well. These are the ones I have read so far:
F/SN Saya no Uta Little Busters! Kara no Shoujo all the Muv Luv ones Planetarian (in progress)
In addition I started G-senjou no maou but I haven't really touched it because of the bad stuff I've heard about it and because of one very annoying character.
Oh, I guess I should read Chaos; Head, Umineko and Tsukihime? I've watched the (appearantly terrible) anime adaptions for those.
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Tsukihime yes, storywise it's better than F/SN
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G-Sen is good, Sent and Uta are just qqers imo. Eichii really needs to be hit by a truck though.
C;H is great, especially compared to the disappointing anime.
Umineko is great aswell though I prefered Higurashi. The end is a bit iffy but this is a case with a suprising amount of things.
Tsukihime is good, but I think certain TM-fans have a tendency of overrating it. Still worth reading of course!
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gsen sucks. fsn sucks. muvluv sucks.
Chaos Head is amazing, probably my 3rd favorite VN. KnS is top 10. Umineko is good and Tsukihime is a mustread classic.
There is no Tsukihime anime.
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Hmm, you should read Phantom because the (better) routes were not in the anime. Also the anime ending was fucking stupid.
S;G you've really seen it all, it's just that the VN does it better. Milkis and I had some lengthy discussions about it earlier in this thread, but basically the anime kinda skimps Okarin's mental breakdown via guilt, while the VN really shows him crumbling and relying more and more on Kurisu + Show Spoiler +which leads to that split at the end, which we all see coming and it makes more sense that he doesn't realize it, in the VN, because he's so overwhelmed with all the other "suffering" he's causing . If you want to read that for yourself go for it, but otherwise it's largely redundant.
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On November 25 2012 19:00 killa_robot wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 18:40 Sentenal wrote:On November 25 2012 18:28 killa_robot wrote:Latest one piece episode + Show Spoiler +They fucked up the epic entrance to the new world, and now there are randomly marines on the other side.
What a weird ass time to try and do a filler arc, assuming that's what they're doing. + Show Spoiler +What? The entrance to the new world was pretty much exactly like that in the manga. Not sure how they "fucked up" that part when they followed it practically panel by panel. The only thing different is the marine fleet on the other side, which obviously is due to an upcoming filler arc, like you said. I dunno why you think its a weird time to do a filler arc, though. In between two arcs (Fishman Island and Punk Hazard) seems like the logical place to put them. + Show Spoiler [OP] +Naw there were minor differences. I could go into it, but the overall point is it just didn't feel the same. In the manga you got the epic feeling something big was starting (gates of hell, sea of flames, etc), and in the anime its just kinda "oh look, the marines".
I would have preferred if they had just done some fillers on fishman island, or before they reached the surface. This should be a pretty monumental moment for them, but it feels kind of ruined. + Show Spoiler +Literally the only difference between them is they get out and aren't at Punk Hazard, so Marine Fleet. They still went up with Brooke singing Bink's Sake, they still burst through the surface with a pack of whales, its still hellish, they all still have their reactions. They practically followed it panel by panel. It felt exactly the same to me, other than filler arc start at the end.
On November 26 2012 04:28 Maxie wrote:MLA: TE 21 + Show Spoiler +After 2 basically pointless episodes, we finally get some action. And not very little, either. Typically for MLA, humans fight each other instead of the BETA. Yay...
Stupid question maybe, but any idea of where in time/the course of events we are compared to MLA? If we're past the coup d'etat I would've expected to at least hear about it... same for Sadogashima, etc. Though I guess Sadogashima was quite late after all. It is at least a week or two before September 29th, 2001. Additionally, the Kamchatka arc took place sometime after August 19th, 2001. Unlimited/Alternative starts in October. + Show Spoiler +The Coup was early December, and Sadogashima was Christmas.
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On November 26 2012 06:48 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 19:00 killa_robot wrote:On November 25 2012 18:40 Sentenal wrote:On November 25 2012 18:28 killa_robot wrote:Latest one piece episode + Show Spoiler +They fucked up the epic entrance to the new world, and now there are randomly marines on the other side.
What a weird ass time to try and do a filler arc, assuming that's what they're doing. + Show Spoiler +What? The entrance to the new world was pretty much exactly like that in the manga. Not sure how they "fucked up" that part when they followed it practically panel by panel. The only thing different is the marine fleet on the other side, which obviously is due to an upcoming filler arc, like you said. I dunno why you think its a weird time to do a filler arc, though. In between two arcs (Fishman Island and Punk Hazard) seems like the logical place to put them. + Show Spoiler [OP] +Naw there were minor differences. I could go into it, but the overall point is it just didn't feel the same. In the manga you got the epic feeling something big was starting (gates of hell, sea of flames, etc), and in the anime its just kinda "oh look, the marines".
I would have preferred if they had just done some fillers on fishman island, or before they reached the surface. This should be a pretty monumental moment for them, but it feels kind of ruined. + Show Spoiler +Literally the only difference between them is they get out and aren't at Punk Hazard, so Marine Fleet. They still went up with Brooke singing Bink's Sake, they still burst through the surface with a pack of whales, its still hellish, they all still have their reactions. They practically followed it panel by panel. It felt exactly the same to me, other than filler arc start at the end. Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 04:28 Maxie wrote:MLA: TE 21 + Show Spoiler +After 2 basically pointless episodes, we finally get some action. And not very little, either. Typically for MLA, humans fight each other instead of the BETA. Yay...
Stupid question maybe, but any idea of where in time/the course of events we are compared to MLA? If we're past the coup d'etat I would've expected to at least hear about it... same for Sadogashima, etc. Though I guess Sadogashima was quite late after all. It is at least a week or two before September 29th, 2001. Additionally, the Kamchatka arc took place sometime after August 19th, 2001. Unlimited/Alternative starts in October. + Show Spoiler +The Coup was early December, and Sadogashima was Christmas.
Oh, so it's that early? Heh, I thought they were basically parallel. Wonder why I thought that.
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On November 26 2012 06:53 Maxie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 06:48 Sentenal wrote:On November 25 2012 19:00 killa_robot wrote:On November 25 2012 18:40 Sentenal wrote:On November 25 2012 18:28 killa_robot wrote:Latest one piece episode + Show Spoiler +They fucked up the epic entrance to the new world, and now there are randomly marines on the other side.
What a weird ass time to try and do a filler arc, assuming that's what they're doing. + Show Spoiler +What? The entrance to the new world was pretty much exactly like that in the manga. Not sure how they "fucked up" that part when they followed it practically panel by panel. The only thing different is the marine fleet on the other side, which obviously is due to an upcoming filler arc, like you said. I dunno why you think its a weird time to do a filler arc, though. In between two arcs (Fishman Island and Punk Hazard) seems like the logical place to put them. + Show Spoiler [OP] +Naw there were minor differences. I could go into it, but the overall point is it just didn't feel the same. In the manga you got the epic feeling something big was starting (gates of hell, sea of flames, etc), and in the anime its just kinda "oh look, the marines".
I would have preferred if they had just done some fillers on fishman island, or before they reached the surface. This should be a pretty monumental moment for them, but it feels kind of ruined. + Show Spoiler +Literally the only difference between them is they get out and aren't at Punk Hazard, so Marine Fleet. They still went up with Brooke singing Bink's Sake, they still burst through the surface with a pack of whales, its still hellish, they all still have their reactions. They practically followed it panel by panel. It felt exactly the same to me, other than filler arc start at the end. On November 26 2012 04:28 Maxie wrote:MLA: TE 21 + Show Spoiler +After 2 basically pointless episodes, we finally get some action. And not very little, either. Typically for MLA, humans fight each other instead of the BETA. Yay...
Stupid question maybe, but any idea of where in time/the course of events we are compared to MLA? If we're past the coup d'etat I would've expected to at least hear about it... same for Sadogashima, etc. Though I guess Sadogashima was quite late after all. It is at least a week or two before September 29th, 2001. Additionally, the Kamchatka arc took place sometime after August 19th, 2001. Unlimited/Alternative starts in October. + Show Spoiler +The Coup was early December, and Sadogashima was Christmas. Oh, so it's that early? Heh, I thought they were basically parallel. Wonder why I thought that. The TSFIA short stories that have been translated have alot of relevant stories for TE. + Show Spoiler +Upon looking at the dates in a few more, the Yukon Attack happens on September 21th.
Lots of content in the TSFIAs have been translated so far, alot of it I c/p'd here a while back, but not all of it: http://www.mediafire.com/?didzncg95ojh3in
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Gundam Age worth watching?its up on baka and I didn't bother following it and the initial premise from what I read didn't really appeal to me.
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On November 26 2012 07:02 Kipsate wrote: Gundam Age worth watching?its up on baka and I didn't bother following it and the initial premise from what I read didn't really appeal to me.
This was my thoughts on the series when I finished it:
On September 24 2012 10:37 Sentenal wrote:At long last, Gundam AGE is over. My TL;DR thoughts on it is that it isn't nearly as bad as it seemed like it was going to be when it was first announced, but its also not nearly as good as it could have been. I'll try to keep spoilers to a minimum here, and put big spoilers in tags. The thing that makes Gundam AGE what it is, is its Generational mechanic. The show starts off with Flit Asuno, and takes about the start of a war with a mysterious enemy. Then like 20 episodes later, there is a time skip, and Flit's son, Asemu takes over as the MC. And then after that, Asemu's son Kio finishes off the series. I can't really think of any anime in existence that does this. This style has both its good and bad parts. The good part is that its really interesting to see Flit go from an idealistic kid, to a + Show Spoiler + old man by the end. Seeing Asemu go through this, to a lesser extent, was good as well. The bad part is that this means that these 3 different stories all have to be fitted into 50~ episodes with each other, so each individually are shorter than what a normal-length Gundam story would be. But overall, I think the Generational part of AGE was a plus. Now lets talk a bit about the anime in more detail. Lets start with Generation 1, where Flit was the main character. It starts off rather generic, but it isn't really bad. There is one really boring/bad part of Generation 1, but the conclusion of it was good enough. Additionally, Generation 1 designs seems like they were intentionally made bland, in terms of mecha. Only the AGE-1 Titus I really liked. Generation 1 was also fairly annoying in that the Federation of the time were extremely weak, and lacked the means to fight the new mysterious enemy, other than the Gundam. But at the end, they are finally able to counter attack, and its revealed who the enemy actually is. Generation 2 is widely considered the best part of AGE. This part had some of the best fights, and the best plot to go along with it. Generation 2 really concentrated on Asemu, and his inferiority complex towards his father, Flit. Unlike the majority of other Gundam protagonists, Asemu wasn't an equivalent to a "Newtype" (or X-Rounder in Age). He was an "Oldtype", meaning totally normal, no special abilities. So much of Generation 2 is Asemu trying to overcome this, to try and live up to his father's expectation. There are alot of cool fights in this part, AGE really loved beam sabers during this. Mecha wise, designs had taken a step up from Generation 1, but nothing really great. AGE-2 was pretty good though. Finally, we get to Generation 3. In my personal opinion, it went off on a good start, but then about halfway through, just started piling on stupid stuff. This arc is about Kio, Asemu's son. Asemu has disappeared, so he is raised by his grandfather, Flit. Eventually, the war comes to earth, and Kio is gets in the AGE-3 to fight them off. Mecha wise, there are lots of designs I liked. Fight wise, there are some pretty cool fights. But plot wise... Well, I'll spoiler tag all this stuff, since I'll essentially be spoilering the end of the show. If you don't want to read it, the unspoiler version is just that after a certain point in Generation 3, things start getting stupid. + Show Spoiler +The beginning of the end is when Kio goes to Second Moon, the Vagan's home colony. Here, we learn that Ezelcant is fucking retarded, and instigated the entire war in order to try and pull off some survival-of-the-fittest plan, to create a new, superior mankind. Kio eventually goes into hardcore "understanding" mode. This is really common in anime and stuff, so I'm pretty immune to really caring about this. However, if you were annoyed by Kira's refusal to kill enemy pilots in SEED towards the end, Kio does that too, except magnified to the extreme. A little bit later, Zeheart, the "Char" of the series, has his character say "fuck all the character development I've had", and becomes Ezelcant's successor for his insane plan. Then, in the final battle, Zeheart orders his best pilot and waifu to lure the 3 Gundams and the Diva into firing range of their big ass colony-laser thing. Zeheart has the colony laser fire, kills a sizable portion of his own fleet, kills 2 of his best pilots/his waifu, and the 3 Gundams escape, and the Diva had already abandoned ship and other Federation ships got out of the firing line. Zeheart gets pissed, flies out, and immediately gets killed by Asemu. This is all in one episode, and he personally destroyed his own fleet, waifu, comrades, and himself, all for destroying an empty ship. Then in the final episode, the random main badguy comes out, and then this AI thing called SID comes and takes him over, and all of this was completely unnecessary and stupid. AGE had its ups and downs. The combination of which makes me give the show 6/10. If things had gone different towards the end, this score could have been very different, but oh well.
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On November 26 2012 06:58 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 06:53 Maxie wrote:On November 26 2012 06:48 Sentenal wrote:On November 25 2012 19:00 killa_robot wrote:On November 25 2012 18:40 Sentenal wrote:On November 25 2012 18:28 killa_robot wrote:Latest one piece episode + Show Spoiler +They fucked up the epic entrance to the new world, and now there are randomly marines on the other side.
What a weird ass time to try and do a filler arc, assuming that's what they're doing. + Show Spoiler +What? The entrance to the new world was pretty much exactly like that in the manga. Not sure how they "fucked up" that part when they followed it practically panel by panel. The only thing different is the marine fleet on the other side, which obviously is due to an upcoming filler arc, like you said. I dunno why you think its a weird time to do a filler arc, though. In between two arcs (Fishman Island and Punk Hazard) seems like the logical place to put them. + Show Spoiler [OP] +Naw there were minor differences. I could go into it, but the overall point is it just didn't feel the same. In the manga you got the epic feeling something big was starting (gates of hell, sea of flames, etc), and in the anime its just kinda "oh look, the marines".
I would have preferred if they had just done some fillers on fishman island, or before they reached the surface. This should be a pretty monumental moment for them, but it feels kind of ruined. + Show Spoiler +Literally the only difference between them is they get out and aren't at Punk Hazard, so Marine Fleet. They still went up with Brooke singing Bink's Sake, they still burst through the surface with a pack of whales, its still hellish, they all still have their reactions. They practically followed it panel by panel. It felt exactly the same to me, other than filler arc start at the end. On November 26 2012 04:28 Maxie wrote:MLA: TE 21 + Show Spoiler +After 2 basically pointless episodes, we finally get some action. And not very little, either. Typically for MLA, humans fight each other instead of the BETA. Yay...
Stupid question maybe, but any idea of where in time/the course of events we are compared to MLA? If we're past the coup d'etat I would've expected to at least hear about it... same for Sadogashima, etc. Though I guess Sadogashima was quite late after all. It is at least a week or two before September 29th, 2001. Additionally, the Kamchatka arc took place sometime after August 19th, 2001. Unlimited/Alternative starts in October. + Show Spoiler +The Coup was early December, and Sadogashima was Christmas. Oh, so it's that early? Heh, I thought they were basically parallel. Wonder why I thought that. The TSFIA short stories that have been translated have alot of relevant stories for TE. + Show Spoiler +Upon looking at the dates in a few more, the Yukon Attack happens on September 21th. Lots of content in the TSFIAs have been translated so far, alot of it I c/p'd here a while back, but not all of it: http://www.mediafire.com/?didzncg95ojh3in
I think I have read all of them that you have posted in this thread at least.
Finished Planetarian. Very short but it was fairly good. Probably going for Phantom and then Tsukihime.
edit: seems like Phantom is a bit weird when it comes to how to play it though.
edit2: fixed Tsukihime, appearantly making the music work seems pretty bothersome. Worth it or not? And, anything I should know before starting Tsukihime? :D
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Don't think you need anything to know about Tsukihime before starting, but you might want check out Kagetsu Tohya (fan disk, as far as I know not translated) and Melty Blood (fighting game, though you prob can find out the story somewhere, or you can just read the manga, which is decent) after it.
Don't know what you need to do with music though
Reading a (relatively) new manga: Miharo Replace, so far it's decent
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You don't need to know anything going into Tsukihime. It was one of the earliest Type Moon VNs made. Kagetsu Tohya is a fan disk for Tsukihime, so you could read that afterwards. Melty Blood is a sequel of sorts to Tsukihime, so you could read/play that afterwards. I dunno if the more recent incarnations of MB (like MBAC, MBAA, or MBAACC) have the same VN-type story to it, but the original did, although the first incarnation of MB had a really unpolished cluncky fighting system.
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On November 26 2012 10:03 Sentenal wrote: You don't need to know anything going into Tsukihime. It was one of the earliest Type Moon VNs made. Kagetsu Tohya is a fan disk for Tsukihime, so you could read that afterwards. Melty Blood is a sequel of sorts to Tsukihime, so you could read/play that afterwards. I dunno if the more recent incarnations of MB (like MBAC, MBAA, or MBAACC) have the same VN-type story to it, but the original did, although the first incarnation of MB had a really unpolished cluncky fighting system.
There is some MB manga, isn't there? And isn't some of the MB stuff (or some VN:s in general), like, for playstation/psp or something like that? Maybe you can use a PC for it anyway, but, eh... time for me to go sleep. I'll just dive into Tsukihime for now.
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On November 26 2012 10:08 Maxie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 10:03 Sentenal wrote: You don't need to know anything going into Tsukihime. It was one of the earliest Type Moon VNs made. Kagetsu Tohya is a fan disk for Tsukihime, so you could read that afterwards. Melty Blood is a sequel of sorts to Tsukihime, so you could read/play that afterwards. I dunno if the more recent incarnations of MB (like MBAC, MBAA, or MBAACC) have the same VN-type story to it, but the original did, although the first incarnation of MB had a really unpolished cluncky fighting system. There is some MB manga, isn't there? And isn't some of the MB stuff (or some VN:s in general), like, for playstation/psp or something like that? Maybe you can use a PC for it anyway, but, eh... time for me to go sleep. I'll just dive into Tsukihime for now. theres a tsukihime manga, which is actually well done but only covers one of the routes, and a melty blood manga which is ok, though the comedy 2nd part is pretty funny
melty blood was annoying to play through for the story.
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On November 26 2012 06:30 Elem wrote: G-Sen is good, Sent and Uta are just qqers imo. If you like G-Sen, have you ever watched Code Geass R2? I think if you liked G-Sen, that would be right up your alley! It has such a smart main character, with so many smart twists and turns, its almost specifically catered to people with such refined taste that you seem to have! Not to mention that "Maou", who was so smart, has the same voice actor as the main character of Code Geass, who is also so smart!
On November 26 2012 10:08 Maxie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 10:03 Sentenal wrote: You don't need to know anything going into Tsukihime. It was one of the earliest Type Moon VNs made. Kagetsu Tohya is a fan disk for Tsukihime, so you could read that afterwards. Melty Blood is a sequel of sorts to Tsukihime, so you could read/play that afterwards. I dunno if the more recent incarnations of MB (like MBAC, MBAA, or MBAACC) have the same VN-type story to it, but the original did, although the first incarnation of MB had a really unpolished cluncky fighting system. There is some MB manga, isn't there? And isn't some of the MB stuff (or some VN:s in general), like, for playstation/psp or something like that? Maybe you can use a PC for it anyway, but, eh... time for me to go sleep. I'll just dive into Tsukihime for now. PSP? Melty Blood is a fighting game, so I don't think they would ever port it to a PSP. The actual story of Melty Blood was in the original, and is on PC, and translated. The story is a VN just like normal, but since its also a fighting game, occasionally you have to fight. And the original was a clunky fighter. As I said, not sure if the later releases that are more polished have the same story or not.
Oh yeah, the music for Tsukihime was abysmal, so if you can use that different music patch thing or whatever, its worth it.
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