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On April 22 2012 03:16 KazeHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 03:09 Ecael wrote:On April 22 2012 02:53 KazeHydra wrote:hahaha poor Lancer-kun. Berserker forgot about his friend this time D: On April 22 2012 01:16 Ecael wrote:On April 22 2012 01:15 Nagisama wrote:On April 22 2012 01:05 Ecael wrote:Actually, if anything, Ao is the prequel and E7 the sequel. Ao takes place on Earth, E7 takes place on the "Promised Land", or + Show Spoiler +Earth after scrub corals have formed a crust over it . If memory serves, Ao is some at least thousands of years after E7. Now there can still be some connections - apparently E7 movie was just E7 story on Earth rather than Promised Land (dunno how, Eva type rewind powers?), but honestly it is highly unlikely for anything from E7 to be a major factor. And no, MC isn't Renton and Eureka's kid unless they time traveled a few thousand years in the past, at which point I am willing to just dismiss the entire anime rightaway. The Renton and Eureka of the movie are also some 20 years after Ao. This is getting confusing now. It's going from 10-15 year time skip to now few thousand years? 2 universes, the movie universe is around 20 years after Ao. The original TV series universe is some thousands of years after. Probably best to consider movie its own thing and forget forever. Ao is the earliest in the timeline both cases, ignore the typo from the old version of the post you quoted. I didn't watch the movie so I wasn't aware it was like that but this actually answers a lot of the questions I had. Few thousand years prior and not in the "Promised Land" makes the Ao world much more logical when I was previously thinking it was a sequel. Pretty much everyone thought it was a sequel though, do you have a source for this or is it just based off logic from what we know about the E7 universe(s)? Japanese wiki + official site information plus what we know of Project Eureka worldview. Information available in English should pretty much tell you the same thing anyway, look at the post prior and see if it matches what you know. Ah okay, just wondering why no one else seemed to realize it was a prequel. I don't actually care about E7 that much so never bothered to look up information on it. I have like 3 friends who think E7 is the greatest anime ever (idk...) and they all say it's a direct sequel lol.
Why, I'd like to know myself how people seem to be able to watch 2 episodes and ignore all settings.
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On April 22 2012 03:19 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 03:16 KazeHydra wrote:On April 22 2012 03:09 Ecael wrote:On April 22 2012 02:53 KazeHydra wrote:hahaha poor Lancer-kun. Berserker forgot about his friend this time D: On April 22 2012 01:16 Ecael wrote:On April 22 2012 01:15 Nagisama wrote:On April 22 2012 01:05 Ecael wrote:Actually, if anything, Ao is the prequel and E7 the sequel. Ao takes place on Earth, E7 takes place on the "Promised Land", or + Show Spoiler +Earth after scrub corals have formed a crust over it . If memory serves, Ao is some at least thousands of years after E7. Now there can still be some connections - apparently E7 movie was just E7 story on Earth rather than Promised Land (dunno how, Eva type rewind powers?), but honestly it is highly unlikely for anything from E7 to be a major factor. And no, MC isn't Renton and Eureka's kid unless they time traveled a few thousand years in the past, at which point I am willing to just dismiss the entire anime rightaway. The Renton and Eureka of the movie are also some 20 years after Ao. This is getting confusing now. It's going from 10-15 year time skip to now few thousand years? 2 universes, the movie universe is around 20 years after Ao. The original TV series universe is some thousands of years after. Probably best to consider movie its own thing and forget forever. Ao is the earliest in the timeline both cases, ignore the typo from the old version of the post you quoted. I didn't watch the movie so I wasn't aware it was like that but this actually answers a lot of the questions I had. Few thousand years prior and not in the "Promised Land" makes the Ao world much more logical when I was previously thinking it was a sequel. Pretty much everyone thought it was a sequel though, do you have a source for this or is it just based off logic from what we know about the E7 universe(s)? Japanese wiki + official site information plus what we know of Project Eureka worldview. Information available in English should pretty much tell you the same thing anyway, look at the post prior and see if it matches what you know. Ah okay, just wondering why no one else seemed to realize it was a prequel. I don't actually care about E7 that much so never bothered to look up information on it. I have like 3 friends who think E7 is the greatest anime ever (idk...) and they all say it's a direct sequel lol. Why, I'd like to know myself how people seem to be able to watch 2 episodes and ignore all settings.
hahaha I still thought it was a sequel but I was soooooo confused. It all makes sense now 
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+ Show Spoiler +I am eager to see who the second target is, man, this Asashi thing is just not working out lol, So close yet so far.
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+ Show Spoiler [ Fate/Zero 16] +HOLY SHIT
Kiritsugu too fucking baller. Poor Lancer, but if it goes to make Kiritsugu even more awesome then fuck him. His death quote was really sick though. Really good episode, is nice to actually get some real action from Kiritsugu, instead of getting the feeling of him just being some random character on the side. When I started F/Z I was hoping to get some goodness from Kirei but this is more than good enough, despite the lack of the awesome he radiated in the FSN VN.
As usual, can't wait for next ep!
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+ Show Spoiler [Upotte! 3] +Holy yuri rape.
That is all that needs to be said.
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Never have truer words been spoken about a yuri VN.
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Just finished the Steins;Gate VN <3
Time to rewatch the anime yet again
Still very impressed at how faithful of an adaptation it was
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So after finally running out of Sci Fi series to watch, and being a hopeless Sci Fi addict, I finally decided to start watching some anime Sci Fi. Just finished Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. Very good. I'm realizing there's a whole load of really good anime mini-series that I've never known about.
Also gogo netflix for having a bunch on instant.
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+ Show Spoiler [Fate/Zero 16] + Seriously Kiritsugu's dickery is almost childish but at the same time epic, it's like a little kid at the playground "I said I wouldn't punch you, doesn't mean I can't kick you". + Show Spoiler [Fate/Zero 16+] + also im so glad that Rider/Waver are the one master/servant pair who don't have to put up with his dickery, because honestly Waver wouldn't last a second the two are basically the comic relief for the series if anything, and IF Waver got screwed over good luck dealing with Rider afterwards, I'm glad their story ends off just losing to Archer that's a nice way to go
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On April 22 2012 08:35 Monokeros wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Fate/Zero 16] + Seriously Kiritsugu's dickery is almost childish but at the same time epic, it's like a little kid at the playground "I said I wouldn't punch you, doesn't mean I can't kick you". + Show Spoiler [Fate/Zero 16+] + also im so glad that Rider/Waver are the one master/servant pair who don't have to put up with his dickery, because honestly Waver wouldn't last a second the two are basically the comic relief for the series if anything, and IF Waver got screwed over good luck dealing with Rider afterwards, I'm glad their story ends off just losing to Archer that's a nice way to go
... Except Waver is a parallel to Shirou in almost every way, and Rider is a key character as an object of juxtaposition for "kingship."
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+ Show Spoiler +That went almost exactly as I expected. Ever since episode 5 (or 6?) it was pretty clear that Kiritsugu's was going to be there to "screw everything up" for Saber.
On April 22 2012 08:35 Monokeros wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Fate/Zero 16] + Seriously Kiritsugu's dickery is almost childish but at the same time epic, it's like a little kid at the playground "I said I wouldn't punch you, doesn't mean I can't kick you". + Show Spoiler [Fate/Zero 16+] + also im so glad that Rider/Waver are the one master/servant pair who don't have to put up with his dickery, because honestly Waver wouldn't last a second the two are basically the comic relief for the series if anything, and IF Waver got screwed over good luck dealing with Rider afterwards, I'm glad their story ends off just losing to Archer that's a nice way to go
+ Show Spoiler +My understanding is that Kiritsugu wanted to be a hero of justice as a child, then he changed his mind (since Saber said it and anything she says must be correct lolololol). If anything, Kiritsugu is kind of like Archer, or Emiya in FSN, except more realistic and at least does not hate himself.
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On April 22 2012 03:09 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 02:53 KazeHydra wrote:hahaha poor Lancer-kun. Berserker forgot about his friend this time D: On April 22 2012 01:16 Ecael wrote:On April 22 2012 01:15 Nagisama wrote:On April 22 2012 01:05 Ecael wrote:Actually, if anything, Ao is the prequel and E7 the sequel. Ao takes place on Earth, E7 takes place on the "Promised Land", or + Show Spoiler +Earth after scrub corals have formed a crust over it . If memory serves, Ao is some at least thousands of years after E7. Now there can still be some connections - apparently E7 movie was just E7 story on Earth rather than Promised Land (dunno how, Eva type rewind powers?), but honestly it is highly unlikely for anything from E7 to be a major factor. And no, MC isn't Renton and Eureka's kid unless they time traveled a few thousand years in the past, at which point I am willing to just dismiss the entire anime rightaway. The Renton and Eureka of the movie are also some 20 years after Ao. This is getting confusing now. It's going from 10-15 year time skip to now few thousand years? 2 universes, the movie universe is around 20 years after Ao. The original TV series universe is some thousands of years after. Probably best to consider movie its own thing and forget forever. Ao is the earliest in the timeline both cases, ignore the typo from the old version of the post you quoted. I didn't watch the movie so I wasn't aware it was like that but this actually answers a lot of the questions I had. Few thousand years prior and not in the "Promised Land" makes the Ao world much more logical when I was previously thinking it was a sequel. Pretty much everyone thought it was a sequel though, do you have a source for this or is it just based off logic from what we know about the E7 universe(s)? Japanese wiki + official site information plus what we know of Project Eureka worldview. Information available in English should pretty much tell you the same thing anyway, look at the post prior and see if it matches what you know.
Bones President Masahiko Minami has called AO a squeal to eureka 7 first.
http://populationgo.com/post/14980686461/eureka-seven-ao-is-a-direct-sequel-to-eureka-seven
In this particular interview, it has been confrimed that Eureka Seven AO is a direct sequel to the TV series; not a spinoff, not an alternate universe and definitely not a sequel to the AU OVA.
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On April 22 2012 08:51 Southlight wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 08:35 Monokeros wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Fate/Zero 16] + Seriously Kiritsugu's dickery is almost childish but at the same time epic, it's like a little kid at the playground "I said I wouldn't punch you, doesn't mean I can't kick you". + Show Spoiler [Fate/Zero 16+] + also im so glad that Rider/Waver are the one master/servant pair who don't have to put up with his dickery, because honestly Waver wouldn't last a second the two are basically the comic relief for the series if anything, and IF Waver got screwed over good luck dealing with Rider afterwards, I'm glad their story ends off just losing to Archer that's a nice way to go ... Except Waver is a parallel to Shirou in almost every way, and Rider is a key character as an object of juxtaposition for "kingship."
I wasn't saying it like it was meant to be a bad thing I was just noting that out of the whole cast they're the only ones who have lolworthy moments that aren't built around dark humor. Pretty much everyone else in the cast is taken serious face 100% of the time, with caster/ryuunoske being somewhat of an exception but they're mass murders so they don't exactly fall into the whole "comic relief" category, or at least not any comic relief I've heard of before.
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Amusingly, the caster pair was probably the ideal master/servant relationship. Just happened to be that neither really cared for the Grail...
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On April 22 2012 09:03 Quintum_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 03:09 Ecael wrote:On April 22 2012 02:53 KazeHydra wrote:hahaha poor Lancer-kun. Berserker forgot about his friend this time D: On April 22 2012 01:16 Ecael wrote:On April 22 2012 01:15 Nagisama wrote:On April 22 2012 01:05 Ecael wrote:Actually, if anything, Ao is the prequel and E7 the sequel. Ao takes place on Earth, E7 takes place on the "Promised Land", or + Show Spoiler +Earth after scrub corals have formed a crust over it . If memory serves, Ao is some at least thousands of years after E7. Now there can still be some connections - apparently E7 movie was just E7 story on Earth rather than Promised Land (dunno how, Eva type rewind powers?), but honestly it is highly unlikely for anything from E7 to be a major factor. And no, MC isn't Renton and Eureka's kid unless they time traveled a few thousand years in the past, at which point I am willing to just dismiss the entire anime rightaway. The Renton and Eureka of the movie are also some 20 years after Ao. This is getting confusing now. It's going from 10-15 year time skip to now few thousand years? 2 universes, the movie universe is around 20 years after Ao. The original TV series universe is some thousands of years after. Probably best to consider movie its own thing and forget forever. Ao is the earliest in the timeline both cases, ignore the typo from the old version of the post you quoted. I didn't watch the movie so I wasn't aware it was like that but this actually answers a lot of the questions I had. Few thousand years prior and not in the "Promised Land" makes the Ao world much more logical when I was previously thinking it was a sequel. Pretty much everyone thought it was a sequel though, do you have a source for this or is it just based off logic from what we know about the E7 universe(s)? Japanese wiki + official site information plus what we know of Project Eureka worldview. Information available in English should pretty much tell you the same thing anyway, look at the post prior and see if it matches what you know. Bones President Masahiko Minami has called AO a squeal to eureka 7 first. http://populationgo.com/post/14980686461/eureka-seven-ao-is-a-direct-sequel-to-eureka-sevenShow nested quote +In this particular interview, it has been confrimed that Eureka Seven AO is a direct sequel to the TV series; not a spinoff, not an alternate universe and definitely not a sequel to the AU OVA.
He said that he can't disclose particular information about it, so he calls it the 'sequel' in the sense that it is the next work of the Eureka project. Notice how the information was forever ago when Ao is just announced and now you have had 2 episodes full of things telling you THIS HAPPENED BEFORE E7.
More like, how obvious does it need to get when Scrub Corals are a new thing to these folks. It either happened before E7 or happened so long after that they forgot what those are. Incidentally he live on Okinawa, somehow.
Oh, they even specified it isn't a new universe, I am pretty willing to just call the project trash on the principle that I can't like something with this kind of shoddy planning.
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On April 22 2012 10:01 Southlight wrote:
Amusingly, the caster pair was probably the ideal master/servant relationship. Just happened to be that neither really cared for the Grail...
Thinking back yeah they probably are the ones who have the best chemistry, everyone else hates//disrespects their master/servant. Berserker and Kariya might have had a better relationship if it wasn't for the berserk spell MAYBE, but yeah haha that is pretty funny how nobody gets along heh
On April 22 2012 10:19 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 09:03 Quintum_ wrote:On April 22 2012 03:09 Ecael wrote:On April 22 2012 02:53 KazeHydra wrote:hahaha poor Lancer-kun. Berserker forgot about his friend this time D: On April 22 2012 01:16 Ecael wrote:On April 22 2012 01:15 Nagisama wrote:On April 22 2012 01:05 Ecael wrote:Actually, if anything, Ao is the prequel and E7 the sequel. Ao takes place on Earth, E7 takes place on the "Promised Land", or + Show Spoiler +Earth after scrub corals have formed a crust over it . If memory serves, Ao is some at least thousands of years after E7. Now there can still be some connections - apparently E7 movie was just E7 story on Earth rather than Promised Land (dunno how, Eva type rewind powers?), but honestly it is highly unlikely for anything from E7 to be a major factor. And no, MC isn't Renton and Eureka's kid unless they time traveled a few thousand years in the past, at which point I am willing to just dismiss the entire anime rightaway. The Renton and Eureka of the movie are also some 20 years after Ao. This is getting confusing now. It's going from 10-15 year time skip to now few thousand years? 2 universes, the movie universe is around 20 years after Ao. The original TV series universe is some thousands of years after. Probably best to consider movie its own thing and forget forever. Ao is the earliest in the timeline both cases, ignore the typo from the old version of the post you quoted. I didn't watch the movie so I wasn't aware it was like that but this actually answers a lot of the questions I had. Few thousand years prior and not in the "Promised Land" makes the Ao world much more logical when I was previously thinking it was a sequel. Pretty much everyone thought it was a sequel though, do you have a source for this or is it just based off logic from what we know about the E7 universe(s)? Japanese wiki + official site information plus what we know of Project Eureka worldview. Information available in English should pretty much tell you the same thing anyway, look at the post prior and see if it matches what you know. Bones President Masahiko Minami has called AO a squeal to eureka 7 first. http://populationgo.com/post/14980686461/eureka-seven-ao-is-a-direct-sequel-to-eureka-sevenIn this particular interview, it has been confrimed that Eureka Seven AO is a direct sequel to the TV series; not a spinoff, not an alternate universe and definitely not a sequel to the AU OVA. He said that he can't disclose particular information about it, so he calls it the 'sequel' in the sense that it is the next work of the Eureka project. Notice how the information was forever ago when Ao is just announced and now you have had 2 episodes full of things telling you THIS HAPPENED BEFORE E7. More like, how obvious does it need to get when Scrub Corals are a new thing to these folks. It either happened before E7 or happened so long after that they forgot what those are. Incidentally he live on Okinawa, somehow. Oh, they even specified it isn't a new universe, I am pretty willing to just call the project trash on the principle that I can't like something with this kind of shoddy planning.
wait a minute what're you talking about this has to be a sequel in that it directly follows it timewise, the MC is the son of Eureka even the mech says "welcome back Eureka" not to mention the MECH he's piloting is the very similar to (so much other characters the older ones recognize it) the one Renton piloted which according to the previous episode was labelled obsolete because 10 years or so later no one could pilot it or activate its trapar/transformation engine.
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He said that he can't disclose particular information about it, so he calls it the 'sequel' in the sense that it is the next work of the Eureka project. Notice how the information was forever ago when Ao is just announced and now you have had 2 episodes full of things telling you THIS HAPPENED BEFORE E7.
More like, how obvious does it need to get when Scrub Corals are a new thing to these folks. It either happened before E7 or happened so long after that they forgot what those are. Incidentally he live on Okinawa, somehow.
Oh, they even specified it isn't a new universe, I am pretty willing to just call the project trash on the principle that I can't like something with this kind of shoddy planning.
There were like 20 civilians that said "Get away from the scub coral" in the first episode, so I don't see how it's a new thing to them at all. He lives on okinawa because Earth was under the Scub Coral that was covering Earth in E7.
I think you're just in denial or looking for a completely out there reason to trash the show because you just dont like E7.
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+ Show Spoiler [Fate/Zero - 16] +Great episode. The abrupt interruption to the fight between Saber and Lancer wasn't exactly expected (those sorts of things are usually reserved for the ends of episodes as cliffhangers), but that just enhances the effect of absurdity of the whole thing. The major characterization for Kiritsugu was awesome, too, and the argument between he and Saber was enjoyable.
The one thing I hate is how...
NOOOOOOOO!!!!1!!1!1 IRI!1!1!!!!! DON'T DIE D:
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On April 22 2012 13:02 Kaal wrote:Show nested quote +
He said that he can't disclose particular information about it, so he calls it the 'sequel' in the sense that it is the next work of the Eureka project. Notice how the information was forever ago when Ao is just announced and now you have had 2 episodes full of things telling you THIS HAPPENED BEFORE E7.
More like, how obvious does it need to get when Scrub Corals are a new thing to these folks. It either happened before E7 or happened so long after that they forgot what those are. Incidentally he live on Okinawa, somehow.
Oh, they even specified it isn't a new universe, I am pretty willing to just call the project trash on the principle that I can't like something with this kind of shoddy planning.
There were like 20 civilians that said "Get away from the scub coral" in the first episode, so I don't see how it's a new thing to them at all. He lives on okinawa because Earth was under the Scub Coral that was covering Earth in E7. I think you're just in denial or looking for a completely out there reason to trash the show because you just dont like E7.
Actually I liked E7, also scrub coral reappearance in the world was 10 years ago, so there is a level of knowledge. He lives on Okinawa because after however many years people just lived by the information from the book? Even though we know that the human population was essentially united they just randomly divided into nations according to the book?
00:41 ecael well if corals got forced out of whatever the heck
00:41 ecael they were doing
00:41 ecael after only enough time
00:41 ecael for renton and eureka's son
00:41 ecael to be like
00:41 ecael a teenager
00:41 ecael then fuck off
00:41 ecael lol
00:41 Kaal l0l
00:41 ecael seriously the setting to me
00:41 ecael is like
00:41 ecael what's the point of e7
00:41 ecael I'd like to think that E7 had a point
00:41 Monokeros you forget ecael
00:42 Monokeros these are the same people that worked are Darker Than Black
00:42 ecael S2
00:42 ecael !
00:42 Monokeros have you forgetten ryuusei no gemini?
00:42 Monokeros if that wasnt fuck all enough of a "sequel"
00:42 Monokeros you should know better
After random discussions, I am a bit more open to the idea of Ao being a sequel, but definitely not shortly after E7. The settings are all just so fucked up tbh, why the fuck is it the year 2025, how the hell did we get multiple nations after the end of E7, why are they all still using old earth names even if Eureka and co found it in a book. My God, this makes no sense at all.
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