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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 10 2013 20:11 GMT
#19881
Oh, also: did Podrick go through puberty when doing this season? I could've sworn he grew fast from the beginning to last night's episode.
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Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 20:24:04
June 10 2013 20:14 GMT
#19882

What? Is this a spoiler?

DO NOT OPEN IF YOU HAVENT READ BOOKS. I don't have report button on my acc so I can't report to check.
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
CaM27
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium392 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 20:17:25
June 10 2013 20:15 GMT
#19883
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TSORG
Profile Joined September 2012
293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 20:23:54
June 10 2013 20:15 GMT
#19884
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 20:23:45
June 10 2013 20:16 GMT
#19885
On June 11 2013 05:15 TSORG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 05:11 nitram wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:48 TSORG wrote:
On June 11 2013 00:52 Sandster wrote:
On June 11 2013 00:34 TSORG wrote:
On June 11 2013 00:30 Sent. wrote:
I still don't know how Tywin is going to force Tyrion to have sex with Sansa :D


he will have shae raped by all the guardsmen and have her killed to teach him a lesson. and varys will be so very sad.


"If he wants me to leave then he can tell me himself." Shae is such a bitch...he loves you, he obviously doesn't want you to leave and won't ever tell you that. I fully expect her to be leveraged against Tyrion, but the question is who will use her against Tyrion.

I don't expect it to be Tywin though...he doesn't have much to be vindictive about, and killing Shae wouldn't necessarily get him a grandson.


well he has a history of dealing harsly with tyrions whores




dont quote possible spoilers without a spoiler tag
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
June 10 2013 20:17 GMT
#19886
Ya we all just got fucked with spoilers... Remove you're quotes of him...
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 20:19:32
June 10 2013 20:18 GMT
#19887
Aww fuck me...

DISTRACTION TIME

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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
June 10 2013 20:18 GMT
#19888
On June 11 2013 04:57 CaM27 wrote:
For everyone bashing Daenerys storyline boring & dull. It's the fault of the directors/writers of the show. There were a lot of stuff with the slave cities, the second sons that weren't told elaborated on. It feels rushed and tbh plain bad. READ THE BOOKS! Also characters not even mentionned like strong belwas :'(

The problem is this is a tv show with 99% of characters are all in one area and one character is in a totally different area. Even from the beginning of the books -- no spoilers, just an example -- there were really two storylines. One story line is the Game of Thrones in Westeros + the zombie stuff. The other story is the Targarians on a whole different continent. One book is basically about grand politics and war and cunning and the other one is an adventure story of a brave girl.
Martin screwed up by choosing to try and jam in two divergent books that happen to be set on one continent into one book. But at least in book form you can just jam in more pages and sub stories to try to cover it up. On the tv screen when you can budget only 50 minutes you cannot do that effectively. And every time they try to shove Daenrys down your throat, it becomes more jarring because you know better actors and better characters are getting less and less screen time. And for what do we miss out on more scenes from Mace -- Ceaser leading another army from the north! -- or Littlefinger or Oleanna Redwyne? So she can waltz around like at some weird rock concert? or do another pouty BUT IAM STORMBORN GIVE ME OBEDIENCE! or watch another Jorah friend zone bitter face shot? its just plain stupid and HBO should have been brave enough to just say no to Danarys completely.
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 20:22:49
June 10 2013 20:22 GMT
#19889
On June 11 2013 05:17 Zooper31 wrote:
Ya we all just got fucked with spoilers... Remove you're quotes of him...

Hopefully he gets a perm ban, wasn't even a fucking speculation spoiler... It was a flat out "X happened" t.t
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 20:24:39
June 10 2013 20:24 GMT
#19890
On June 11 2013 05:22 Hitch-22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 05:17 Zooper31 wrote:
Ya we all just got fucked with spoilers... Remove you're quotes of him...

Hopefully he gets a perm ban, wasn't even a fucking speculation spoiler... It was a flat out "X happened" t.t


Ya seriously...
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
TSORG
Profile Joined September 2012
293 Posts
June 10 2013 20:26 GMT
#19891
its hardly a spoiler if its not true. i dont even understood what he meant exactly but k.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
June 10 2013 20:35 GMT
#19892
My major problem with the Danarys is that Yunkai is going to open a huge can of worms and destabilise all of society. Removing the ruling faction like that and destroying economic system requires a replacement. I don't know how it was handled in Astapor but Yunkai is going to be even worse.
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Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 20:36:25
June 10 2013 20:36 GMT
#19893
On June 11 2013 05:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
-Nightshade is a poison, isn't it? Is Tywin seriously intending to off Joffrey because he can't put up with the little fucker anymore? If so, bravo Tywin. Probably my third favorite living character after Tyrion and the Hound.

Isn't nightshade what Cersei meant to use to kill her child when Tywin barely fended off Stannis sacking King's Landing? If i recall correctly, the grandmaster guy said a small amount of drops would only put you to sleep, while ten or more would be lethal. I highly doubt he would spout a plan to kill of the king in front of the entire small council, and I also highly doubt he would want to kill off Joffrey, however insufferable he might be.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 20:37:15
June 10 2013 20:36 GMT
#19894
On June 11 2013 05:35 TanGeng wrote:
My major problem with the Danarys is that Yunkai is going to open a huge can of worms and destabilise all of society. Removing the ruling faction like that and destroying economic system requires a replacement. I don't know how it was handled in Astapor but Yunkai is going to be even worse.

Pfft. Astapor is probably worse off.

EDIT: I believe Tywin just wants him to be put to sleep, not put to sleep.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
June 10 2013 20:37 GMT
#19895
On June 11 2013 05:18 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 04:57 CaM27 wrote:
For everyone bashing Daenerys storyline boring & dull. It's the fault of the directors/writers of the show. There were a lot of stuff with the slave cities, the second sons that weren't told elaborated on. It feels rushed and tbh plain bad. READ THE BOOKS! Also characters not even mentionned like strong belwas :'(

The problem is this is a tv show with 99% of characters are all in one area and one character is in a totally different area. Even from the beginning of the books -- no spoilers, just an example -- there were really two storylines. One story line is the Game of Thrones in Westeros + the zombie stuff. The other story is the Targarians on a whole different continent. One book is basically about grand politics and war and cunning and the other one is an adventure story of a brave girl.
Martin screwed up by choosing to try and jam in two divergent books that happen to be set on one continent into one book. But at least in book form you can just jam in more pages and sub stories to try to cover it up. On the tv screen when you can budget only 50 minutes you cannot do that effectively. And every time they try to shove Daenrys down your throat, it becomes more jarring because you know better actors and better characters are getting less and less screen time. And for what do we miss out on more scenes from Mace -- Ceaser leading another army from the north! -- or Littlefinger or Oleanna Redwyne? So she can waltz around like at some weird rock concert? or do another pouty BUT IAM STORMBORN GIVE ME OBEDIENCE! or watch another Jorah friend zone bitter face shot? its just plain stupid and HBO should have been brave enough to just say no to Danarys completely.

I'd rather HBO kept the material relatively pure, rather than kowtow to your personal preferences.
TSORG
Profile Joined September 2012
293 Posts
June 10 2013 20:38 GMT
#19896
On June 11 2013 05:36 Warfie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 05:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
-Nightshade is a poison, isn't it? Is Tywin seriously intending to off Joffrey because he can't put up with the little fucker anymore? If so, bravo Tywin. Probably my third favorite living character after Tyrion and the Hound.

Isn't nightshade what Cersei meant to use to kill her child when Tywin barely fended off Stannis sacking King's Landing? If i recall correctly, the grandmaster guy said a small amount of drops would only put you to sleep, while ten or more would be lethal. I highly doubt he would spout a plan to kill of the king in front of the entire small council, and I also highly doubt he would want to kill off Joffrey, however insufferable he might be.


i think its just a sleeping drug, like poppymilk is a painkiller.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 10 2013 20:42 GMT
#19897
On June 11 2013 05:18 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 04:57 CaM27 wrote:
For everyone bashing Daenerys storyline boring & dull. It's the fault of the directors/writers of the show. There were a lot of stuff with the slave cities, the second sons that weren't told elaborated on. It feels rushed and tbh plain bad. READ THE BOOKS! Also characters not even mentionned like strong belwas :'(

The problem is this is a tv show with 99% of characters are all in one area and one character is in a totally different area. Even from the beginning of the books -- no spoilers, just an example -- there were really two storylines. One story line is the Game of Thrones in Westeros + the zombie stuff. The other story is the Targarians on a whole different continent. One book is basically about grand politics and war and cunning and the other one is an adventure story of a brave girl.
Martin screwed up by choosing to try and jam in two divergent books that happen to be set on one continent into one book. But at least in book form you can just jam in more pages and sub stories to try to cover it up. On the tv screen when you can budget only 50 minutes you cannot do that effectively. And every time they try to shove Daenrys down your throat, it becomes more jarring because you know better actors and better characters are getting less and less screen time. And for what do we miss out on more scenes from Mace -- Ceaser leading another army from the north! -- or Littlefinger or Oleanna Redwyne? So she can waltz around like at some weird rock concert? or do another pouty BUT IAM STORMBORN GIVE ME OBEDIENCE! or watch another Jorah friend zone bitter face shot? its just plain stupid and HBO should have been brave enough to just say no to Danarys completely.


I would imagine Daenerys would be very relevant to Westeros later on, considering she is amassing an army and planning to invade Westeros.
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
June 10 2013 20:44 GMT
#19898
On June 11 2013 05:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 05:18 Sub40APM wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:57 CaM27 wrote:
For everyone bashing Daenerys storyline boring & dull. It's the fault of the directors/writers of the show. There were a lot of stuff with the slave cities, the second sons that weren't told elaborated on. It feels rushed and tbh plain bad. READ THE BOOKS! Also characters not even mentionned like strong belwas :'(

The problem is this is a tv show with 99% of characters are all in one area and one character is in a totally different area. Even from the beginning of the books -- no spoilers, just an example -- there were really two storylines. One story line is the Game of Thrones in Westeros + the zombie stuff. The other story is the Targarians on a whole different continent. One book is basically about grand politics and war and cunning and the other one is an adventure story of a brave girl.
Martin screwed up by choosing to try and jam in two divergent books that happen to be set on one continent into one book. But at least in book form you can just jam in more pages and sub stories to try to cover it up. On the tv screen when you can budget only 50 minutes you cannot do that effectively. And every time they try to shove Daenrys down your throat, it becomes more jarring because you know better actors and better characters are getting less and less screen time. And for what do we miss out on more scenes from Mace -- Ceaser leading another army from the north! -- or Littlefinger or Oleanna Redwyne? So she can waltz around like at some weird rock concert? or do another pouty BUT IAM STORMBORN GIVE ME OBEDIENCE! or watch another Jorah friend zone bitter face shot? its just plain stupid and HBO should have been brave enough to just say no to Danarys completely.


I would imagine Daenerys would be very relevant to Westeros later on, considering she is amassing an army and planning to invade Westeros.

Maybe. But the payoff for this invasion is going to happen when, another 2 seasons further away? So we now have 5 seasons of at least 10 minutes per episode on average, of one person that is completely unrelated to anything else. Think of how many more relevant to Westeros characters they could have inserted in that time they devoted to a thing that might pan out in 5 years.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 10 2013 20:46 GMT
#19899
On June 11 2013 05:44 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 05:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On June 11 2013 05:18 Sub40APM wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:57 CaM27 wrote:
For everyone bashing Daenerys storyline boring & dull. It's the fault of the directors/writers of the show. There were a lot of stuff with the slave cities, the second sons that weren't told elaborated on. It feels rushed and tbh plain bad. READ THE BOOKS! Also characters not even mentionned like strong belwas :'(

The problem is this is a tv show with 99% of characters are all in one area and one character is in a totally different area. Even from the beginning of the books -- no spoilers, just an example -- there were really two storylines. One story line is the Game of Thrones in Westeros + the zombie stuff. The other story is the Targarians on a whole different continent. One book is basically about grand politics and war and cunning and the other one is an adventure story of a brave girl.
Martin screwed up by choosing to try and jam in two divergent books that happen to be set on one continent into one book. But at least in book form you can just jam in more pages and sub stories to try to cover it up. On the tv screen when you can budget only 50 minutes you cannot do that effectively. And every time they try to shove Daenrys down your throat, it becomes more jarring because you know better actors and better characters are getting less and less screen time. And for what do we miss out on more scenes from Mace -- Ceaser leading another army from the north! -- or Littlefinger or Oleanna Redwyne? So she can waltz around like at some weird rock concert? or do another pouty BUT IAM STORMBORN GIVE ME OBEDIENCE! or watch another Jorah friend zone bitter face shot? its just plain stupid and HBO should have been brave enough to just say no to Danarys completely.


I would imagine Daenerys would be very relevant to Westeros later on, considering she is amassing an army and planning to invade Westeros.

Maybe. But the payoff for this invasion is going to happen when, another 2 seasons further away? So we now have 5 seasons of at least 10 minutes per episode on average, of one person that is completely unrelated to anything else. Think of how many more relevant to Westeros characters they could have inserted in that time they devoted to a thing that might pan out in 5 years.


Put it this way. Martin oversees the show and directs one episode per season. If anything, he would step in and say "You need X, it's important for the story" when the HBO folks forget to add it in. Everything that needs to be there, is there. And more. We even got Talisa and big-dick Podrick.
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Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
June 10 2013 20:53 GMT
#19900
I might be thinking very badly, but for some reason, I thought Tyrion was trying to gt Podrick drunk and make him fuck Sansa to make her pregnant... crazy, but after Twyins speech looked possible xD
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