EPTPlus, they supposedly showed fewer action scenes than before (when did the zombie army arrive at that wall now?). Also, don't forget this season only spans about half a book.
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aseq
Netherlands3996 Posts
Plus, they supposedly showed fewer action scenes than before (when did the zombie army arrive at that wall now?). Also, don't forget this season only spans about half a book. | ||
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Fruscainte
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It's not about who the people want to follow, it's who they would have to. | ||
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
Hah, I have to add though that I don't expect "Aegon I" with the sig quote from writings-that-cannot-be-named forgets that this season is only half a b*** or that he ever needed to acclimate to the number of plot threads in the first place. | ||
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Thor.Rush
Sweden702 Posts
On June 01 2013 05:28 Irrelevant Label wrote: Plot thread count aside, Aegon's point remains. Has any character had more than around 30-40 minutes of screen time in the whole season? It is all part of why the show flows best taken multiple episodes at a time. Any given episode only touches on most of the characters once or maybe twice with a character or three left out entirely. That is the general pace anyway, there are frequent enough exceptions for certain important events that are afforded more detail. Hah, I have to add though that I don't expect "Aegon I" with the sig quote from writings-that-cannot-be-named forgets that this season is only half a b*** or that he ever needed to acclimate to the number of plot threads in the first place. If I had known how this season was going to play out, I would have waited to watch all episodes in 1 day. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
i'm curious of season 5, from what i understand books 4 and 5 are parallel to each other so the show guys got some reworking to do. i for one is enjoying all these characters, we're seeing the world in multiple perspectives and of different families in westoros. if the show only followed dany or the north, it wouldnt be this good. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
Arya Stark: Last seen in S2 saying goodbye to Jaqen H'ghar and receiving his coin and the magic words. Atm she's now being held hostage by the Hound going to her uncle's wedding with the Freys. She met the brotherhood, got taken hostage, met the Hound again, witnessed their "death" battle, said goodbye to Potpie and Gendry, escaped and got taken hostage after the Hound waited for her. Jon Snow: Last seen walking into the distance to the wildling camp after killing Qhorin Halfhand. Has since met the leader, discovered worgs & giants, made love to Yiggete, traveled back to the wall, climbed over and is now walking south through the North. Rob Stark: Last seen getting married under the sight of the Seven to Jeyne. He's now "losing" the war against the Lannisters in a vague sense because of bad misfortune and having too much honor. He's won some battles offscreen, talked with his council, executed Lord Karstark and lost all his bannermen (half his army), and is now wraggling an alliance with the Frey's through another wedding. Bran Stark: Last seen hiding under Winterfell from the Greyjoys. He's heading north to the wall with Hodor, Osha, Ricken, Jojen, & (young girl's name couldn't think of it) after learning that he is indeed a Worg and can see the future and control animals. Not much to say, they have been heading "north" to the wall and Castle Black for 8 episodes now, there's been some talking between them but thats it. Jaime Lannister: Brienne just slayed 3 guys at once over them raping and killing 2 innocent woman and to protect Jaime. They are travelling to Kings Landing on the order of Catelyn Tully to exchange the Kingslayer for her 2 girls. Since then they've had several bonding moments. They got caught on a bridge by the Boltons after having a quick duel after Jaime stole a sword from her. Jaime saved her from being raped, got his hand chopped off, unloaded the truth about why he killed the Mad King, saved Brienne from a bear and is now AGAIN heading to Kings Landing with slightly different orders. Daenerys Targaryen: Last seen kicking (burning) warlock ass after getting her dragons stolen. She sacked the city of Qarth, went to the slave city of Astapor and bought all 8k Unsullied and those in training in exchange for her "biggest" dragon. Dragon burned it's new master and she ordered the Unsullied to kill everyone. She now has an army outside the next big slave city of Yunkai attempting to liberate and take their riches too. Yunkai hired an army of sellswords, whom quickly changed sides due to Daario Naharis assasinating the other captains and handing over the army to her. Tyrion Lannister: Last seen recupurating in bed after almost being killed on the battlefield due to Joffrey ordering it. He's since lost his title as Hand of the King due to Tywin coming back to Kings Landing and taking over, he's now in charge of the finances of the crown and figuring out how to pay for things. He recently wed Sansa Stark to secure the north and put a baby in her. He's continued to have troubles with Shae with their relationship and being forced to wed another. Joffrey "Baratheon" Lannister: Last seen cowarding in his castle during the Battle of Blackwater Bay after making Tyrion lead the charge instead. He's since being wed to Margaery Tyrell instead to secure Highgarden and their riches/forces. He's killed Ros just have to fun, threatened to rape Sansa, discovered a love for crossbows, and is being manipulated by Margaery and Tywin. Stannis Baratheon: Last seen argueing with Melisandre over Blackwater and being made to see things in the flames in which he rekindles his belief in her god. He's now following the Lord of Light again, put the Onion Knight in a dungeon and then released him, we met his scarred daughter locked in a tower, his crazed wife locked in her room with several green tubes of dead babies. Melisandre took Gendry hostage, stole his blood and is now plotting to kill the 3 usurpers with the power in his blood to prove the Lord of Light is real. Theon Greyjoy: Last seen giving a speech to his men before being knocked out and dragged away by his own men. He's since been in a torture chamber for all 7 episodes, briefly outside before being trolled and sent back to being tortured. He's had his nails peeled off, his hands and feed screwed and twisted, and presumably his dick now chopped off by a sadistic bastard who we really don't even know. We have no clue how he got there, how long he's been there, where he is, or who is even holding him hostage. Let alone what happened to his men or why they knocked him out. Samwell Tarly: Last seen hiding behind a rock witnessing the first White Walkers appearance before fighting the Nights Watch. He's since grouped back up with the remaining watchmen, traveled back to the incestrious village and his family of daughters. Witnessed Jeor Mormont be murdered to traitors out of hunger and jealousy before running off with Gilly and her baby. Also found out a major weakness to White Walkers by stabbing one in the back with dragonglass he found at the fist of the first men. | ||
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Thor.Rush
Sweden702 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On June 01 2013 07:47 Thor.Rush wrote: @Zooper31 And what are your overall thoughts on this season? : ) Most plots have been awesome for me but some are moving incredibly slow imo and/or are just boring. Namely Bran and Sam. I just don't quite like Sam so his story is just kinda a big meh moment for me whenever he gets screen time, hope he dies sometime to prove that nice people don't last very long. And then theres Bran, I like him but for god's sake theres been little to no storyline with him. Literally the only thing that happened is that we found out he's a worg. Other than that they have been traveling for 8/10 episodes and not doing anything worthwhile at all. I know we barely know anything about the whole Theon situation but imo thats fine, I feel like when we finally do figure it out it will be worthwhile and we should just wait and be patient. All his scenes have been really intense. | ||
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Thor.Rush
Sweden702 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On June 01 2013 08:17 Thor.Rush wrote: ^I pretty much agree with what you said, though I think some other story lines are quite slow too like Rob. Ya Rob is kinda slow sometimes but he's had some big moments that really mattered. Murdering the Karstark guy and some of his council meetings have been pretty good dialogue. Excited for him maybe taking Casterly Rock that'll be big. | ||
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Aegon I
Canada133 Posts
Anyone who profits from it. Still lacks a claim though. Who would follow a mad, inbred want-to-be queen with dragons and a preferral of very hot murder. She has no claim and no merit. | ||
KwarK
United States43868 Posts
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On June 01 2013 09:15 KwarK wrote: Her dynasty's claim is merely that they were stronger than any other house and managed to conquer (or assert their authority over them on the threat of it) them...thats the same claim any single other person would make, including the late Robert.The seven kingdoms as a single entity don't exist without the Targaryen dynasty and Dany is the last survivor of that. She's the only one who would make sense. | ||
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CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
On June 01 2013 06:38 Zooper31 wrote: Joffrey "Baratheon" Lannister: Last seen cowarding in his castle during the Battle of Blackwater Bay after making Tyrion lead the charge instead. He's since being wed to Margaery Tyrell instead to secure Highgarden and their riches/forces. He's killed Ros just have to fun, threatened to rape Sansa, discovered a love for crossbows, and is being manipulated by Margaery and Tywin. I think technically he would be called Joffrey Waters, since he was born out of wedlock he would be a bastard : P. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On June 01 2013 10:06 Dazed_Spy wrote: Her dynasty's claim is merely that they were stronger than any other house and managed to conquer (or assert their authority over them on the threat of it) them...thats the same claim any single other person would make, including the late Robert. But they did it first and united the kingdoms as Kwark has said. Without the Targaryen's conquering everyone and uniting everything then the kingdoms wouldn't be where they are today imo. She deserves to be on the throne the most imo. She's definitely not mad or crazy. She has a heart for people in suffering and kills evil people. I guess you just don't like her lol. On June 01 2013 10:54 CrimsonLotus wrote: I think technically he would be called Joffrey Waters, since he was born out of wedlock he would be a bastard : P. Isn't a bastard just a person born of another person outside of the marriage they are currently in, IE having an affair. Thats what every "bastard" in the show has been, first Jon Snow (Ned cheated on his wife) and then Gendry (Robert cheating with a whore). And why the name Waters? We don't even know what people in the kingdoms feel about having a child out of marriage really even. | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On June 01 2013 10:55 Zooper31 wrote: Being on the throne first has nothing to do with the legitimacy of their authority. They have none. Its just force, thats all the entire feudal society is in Westeros. Danny doesnt deserve authority over millions of people because shes genetically similar to other tyrannical bastards. As far as perceived legitimacy goes, the Targs are fairly well and hated across Westeros as far as I can tell [amongst the nobility, the common people dont really matter], and no one save the starks seem particularly concerned with 'rightful' this or that. Its about money and power and who can get you it.But they did it first and united the kingdoms as Kwark has said. Without the Targaryen's conquering everyone and uniting everything then the kingdoms wouldn't be where they are today imo. She deserves to be on the throne the most imo. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On June 01 2013 10:59 Dazed_Spy wrote: Being on the throne first has nothing to do with the legitimacy of their authority. They have none. Its just force, thats all the entire feudal society is in Westeros. Danny doesnt deserve authority over millions of people because shes genetically similar to other tyrannical bastards. As far as perceived legitimacy goes, the Targs are fairly well and hated across Westeros as far as I can tell [amongst the nobility, the common people dont really matter], and no one save the starks seem particularly concerned with 'rightful' this or that. Its about money and power and who can get you it. I whole heartedly disagree  Sure money and power is gonna decide who sits on the throne but I think she has more merit than anyone else. | ||
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Aegon I
Canada133 Posts
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CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
On June 01 2013 10:55 Zooper31 wrote: But they did it first and united the kingdoms as Kwark has said. Without the Targaryen's conquering everyone and uniting everything then the kingdoms wouldn't be where they are today imo. She deserves to be on the throne the most imo. She's definitely not mad or crazy. She has a heart for people in suffering and kills evil people. I guess you just don't like her lol. Isn't a bastard just a person born of another person outside of the marriage they are currently in, IE having an affair. Thats what every "bastard" in the show has been, first Jon Snow (Ned cheated on his wife) and then Gendry (Robert cheating with a whore). And why the name Waters? We don't even know what people in the kingdoms feel about having a child out of marriage really even. And that fits perfectly for the little evil king. He was born out of an affair therefore he's a bastard. I don't think there's a rule for when the bastard is born of noble incest, but given how much incest is looked down in Westeros I imagine he wouldn't even be given the Lannister name. And it's Waters because that's the surname for the region where King's Landing is located and I presume he was born there. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On June 01 2013 11:08 Aegon I wrote: How exactly does one draw the conclusion that Daenarys is going mad? The way she treated the slave masters may have been dishonest and dishonorable but it was also cunning and rewarding. She raised a mighty army in a stroke. The way she heeds the advice of the experienced commanders in her entourage shows that she has not grown arrogant after that. Who would follow a mad, inbred want-to-be queen with dragons and a preferral of very hot murder. She has no claim and no merit. Idk you tell me, it's what you claimed to be. Are you 2 different posters? On June 01 2013 11:09 CrimsonLotus wrote: And that fits perfectly for the little evil king. He was born out of an affair therefore he's a bastard. I don't think there's a rule for when the bastard is born of noble incest, but given how much incest is looked down in Westeros I imagine he wouldn't even be given the Lannister name. And it's Waters because that's the surname for the region where King's Landing is located and I presume he was born there. They haven't explained surnames for bastards in regions have they? If so I completely missed that lesson. Is a bastard born in highgarden called a flower or rose? | ||
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