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Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 23:22:43
April 22 2011 23:21 GMT
#1421
Lancaster is the lannisters, dude. Norway were not the only ones to use the lion as a symbol in their royal flag. The similarity there is coincidetial I think.
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
April 23 2011 00:53 GMT
#1422
Red and gold with a lion? I hear the Lannisters were sorted in Gryffindor
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 01:06:14
April 23 2011 01:02 GMT
#1423
On April 23 2011 09:53 Eishi_Ki wrote:
Red and gold with a lion? I hear the Lannisters were sorted in Gryffindor


Sorry. If anything, Rowling copied Martin. Martin wrote the first book in 1991-1994.
There is no one like you in the universe.
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
April 23 2011 01:21 GMT
#1424
On April 23 2011 10:02 Blisse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 09:53 Eishi_Ki wrote:
Red and gold with a lion? I hear the Lannisters were sorted in Gryffindor


Sorry. If anything, Rowling copied Martin. Martin wrote the first book in 1991-1994.


Cheers for that champ, was just pointing out a coincidence in a humourous manner. Keep that sharp eye of yours.

Regarding Fairley's performance as Cat, I actually really enjoyed it...

+ Show Spoiler [Book 4] +
I reckon she will make an excellent Stoneheart if it indeed comes to that...
tertos
Profile Joined April 2011
Romania394 Posts
April 23 2011 01:47 GMT
#1425
A bit unhappy about ages...

Robb should be younger, + Show Spoiler +
after all he becomes king of the north at 15

He should look more like Jeofrey Baratheon`s age
Jon is the eldest son,
Sansa looks too old, like ffs, that looks like a girl that has not bled yet?
Rickon looks too old too, he like 5?

Other than that <3 every moment
I was like...*tears of joy*.
I was born this way
Coolbeans
Profile Joined April 2010
Ireland162 Posts
April 23 2011 01:55 GMT
#1426
On April 23 2011 10:47 tertos wrote:
A bit unhappy about ages...

Robb should be younger, + Show Spoiler +
after all he becomes king of the north at 15

He should look more like Jeofrey Baratheon`s age
Jon is the eldest son,
Sansa looks too old, like ffs, that looks like a girl that has not bled yet?
Rickon looks too old too, he like 5?

Other than that <3 every moment
I was like...*tears of joy*.



Gotta agree, I feel like Robb and Jon especially should be looking around 2-3 years younger, but apart from that I thought it was great
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 01:59:42
April 23 2011 01:59 GMT
#1427
On April 23 2011 10:47 tertos wrote:
A bit unhappy about ages...

Robb should be younger, + Show Spoiler +
after all he becomes king of the north at 15

He should look more like Jeofrey Baratheon`s age
Jon is the eldest son,
Sansa looks too old, like ffs, that looks like a girl that has not bled yet?
Rickon looks too old too, he like 5?

Other than that <3 every moment
I was like...*tears of joy*.


Martin asked the producers to age up the characters for the TV series. He has stated that, had he known the course the story would take, he'd have made the characters older in the first novel (he originally planned for a time skip, but it never happened).
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 03:04:46
April 23 2011 02:59 GMT
#1428
On April 23 2011 10:21 Eishi_Ki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 10:02 Blisse wrote:
On April 23 2011 09:53 Eishi_Ki wrote:
Red and gold with a lion? I hear the Lannisters were sorted in Gryffindor


Sorry. If anything, Rowling copied Martin. Martin wrote the first book in 1991-1994.


Cheers for that champ, was just pointing out a coincidence in a humourous manner. Keep that sharp eye of yours.

Regarding Fairley's performance as Cat, I actually really enjoyed it...

+ Show Spoiler [Book 4] +
I reckon she will make an excellent Stoneheart if it indeed comes to that...


Harry Potter films have disappointed me. The Deathly Hallows disappointed me.(must...kill...Rowling...)
Really hope Game of Thrones doesn't end up the same.

I wish Catelyn would look prettier. + Show Spoiler [Catelyn Plot Spoiler] +
She looks too grim


To be fair, I don't think they could have gotten younger acts to play the parts with all the killing and nudity going on. Legal issues probably.
There is no one like you in the universe.
Kuhva
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 03:53:16
April 23 2011 03:52 GMT
#1429
On April 23 2011 10:59 acker wrote:
he'd have made the characters older in the first novel (he originally planned for a time skip, but it never happened).


Can I have a source for that buddy, I had an agruement with a friend about this but he said the time skip was gonna be in FoC and had some links and I couldn't find where I read that.
Brotoss Fighting!!!!
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
April 23 2011 07:33 GMT
#1430
Regarding the age bump of the characters

Massive spoilers if you have not read the first 3 books.

+ Show Spoiler +
I understand why they did it and i don't mind it too much but the only exception i have is Robb. I felt his struggle was more moving because he was so very young when he was forced to fight a war and become a man.

In the end he died so young with so much potential left. The fact that he was so very young made his story so many times more sad and i feel like that will be lost in the TV-series to a certain degree.

15-16 is way too young to lead an army but 20ish seems a lot more "normal" for most people. In reality 20 is ofcourse insanely young for such a thing but from a TV/Movie perspective where a lot of fantasy characters are teens, it's considered normal.
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
April 23 2011 11:20 GMT
#1431
On April 23 2011 08:21 Maginor wrote:
The similarity there is coincidetial I think.



Of course it is...

I just found it funny that what their graphical designer ended up doing looked a lot like the flag that's waving above the royal castle in Oslo (more so than the lancaster lion)
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 23 2011 11:43 GMT
#1432
On April 23 2011 10:47 tertos wrote:
A bit unhappy about ages...

Robb should be younger, + Show Spoiler +
after all he becomes king of the north at 15

He should look more like Jeofrey Baratheon`s age
Jon is the eldest son,
Sansa looks too old, like ffs, that looks like a girl that has not bled yet?
Rickon looks too old too, he like 5?

Other than that <3 every moment
I was like...*tears of joy*.


Jon is the eldest? I seem to remember reading that:
+ Show Spoiler [Book1] +
Eddard cheated on his wife when she was pregnant, meaning Robb should be a small bit older.


Or did I get that wrong?
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
April 23 2011 12:04 GMT
#1433
On April 23 2011 20:43 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 10:47 tertos wrote:
A bit unhappy about ages...

Robb should be younger, + Show Spoiler +
after all he becomes king of the north at 15

He should look more like Jeofrey Baratheon`s age
Jon is the eldest son,
Sansa looks too old, like ffs, that looks like a girl that has not bled yet?
Rickon looks too old too, he like 5?

Other than that <3 every moment
I was like...*tears of joy*.


Jon is the eldest? I seem to remember reading that:
+ Show Spoiler [Book1] +
Eddard cheated on his wife when she was pregnant, meaning Robb should be a small bit older.


Or did I get that wrong?


Problem with that is



+ Show Spoiler +
You don't know for sure if it's Eddards bastard and if it's not that means Jon could be anything from older to younger then Robb, but ofcourse by a small margin.

The books had them at essentially the same age.
tertos
Profile Joined April 2011
Romania394 Posts
April 23 2011 12:17 GMT
#1434
I think you are right, not sure tho,
I kinda pictured a lot of things, what I imagined did not fit with what I saw in the movie (not trying to downplay casters and screenplayers work) they did a great work.
What I wanted was to see if my way of seeing things was shared by someone else.

Like the wolfs, anyone has the feeling that the wolf cubs should be almost grown to full size by the time Brad is pushed off the window?

For instance I always pictured Winterfell sort-of like Malta, without the sun, a gloomy, castle with dark narrow aleeysways climbing a steep hill overlooking Kingsroad, darken and black-ish but warm.
The godsworth and the crypts,it was EXACLTY like I pictured. Even the light angles.
The winterfell flags and crests were even more awsome than I imagined.
And the intro with bird-eye view over whole Westeros. Was simply brilliant.
I was born this way
ReignExia
Profile Joined February 2003
Dominican Republic54 Posts
April 23 2011 12:22 GMT
#1435
i want to se that so bad man
ReignExia :D Reign coach :D Pain is temporary glory is forever
Doppelganger
Profile Joined May 2010
488 Posts
April 23 2011 12:42 GMT
#1436
On April 23 2011 16:33 zalz wrote:
Regarding the age bump of the characters

Massive spoilers if you have not read the first 3 books.

+ Show Spoiler +
I understand why they did it and i don't mind it too much but the only exception i have is Robb. I felt his struggle was more moving because he was so very young when he was forced to fight a war and become a man.

In the end he died so young with so much potential left. The fact that he was so very young made his story so many times more sad and i feel like that will be lost in the TV-series to a certain degree.

15-16 is way too young to lead an army but 20ish seems a lot more "normal" for most people. In reality 20 is ofcourse insanely young for such a thing but from a TV/Movie perspective where a lot of fantasy characters are teens, it's considered normal.


More Massive Spoilers for books 1-3 and speculation about the differences to the show and a massive spoiler in that regard!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
I read that they will kill a character in the first season that lives on till book 3(yeah Martin advised against it but let them roll with it nonetheless). I speculate Catelyn Stark which would isolate Robb way stronger than he is in the books and thus make it less "normal". Why her? Because she actually plays only a role in Robbs Plot and of course in wittnissing Renly Baratheons Death. Clegane would be another possibility but that would rather be irrelevant in almost every regard and frankly makes no sense.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 23 2011 12:47 GMT
#1437
You also have to remember that child actors aren't often as good as older actors.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
April 23 2011 14:29 GMT
#1438
More Massive Spoilers for books 1-3 and speculation about the differences to the show and a massive spoiler in that regard!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
I read that they will kill a character in the first season that lives on till book 3(yeah Martin advised against it but let them roll with it nonetheless). I speculate Catelyn Stark which would isolate Robb way stronger than he is in the books and thus make it less "normal". Why her? Because she actually plays only a role in Robbs Plot and of course in wittnissing Renly Baratheons Death. Clegane would be another possibility but that would rather be irrelevant in almost every regard and frankly makes no sense.


Continueing the book spoilers

+ Show Spoiler +
Truth be told i wouldn't mind if they killed Catelyn off in the first season. I don't dig zombie-cate all that much anyway.

From a story perspective things might get more strange at that point. An upside would be that Brienne of Tarth would be nearly completly written out of the show, something that i would not mind one bit. She is an intresting side-char, a women in a mans world and an ugly one at that, not the warrior princess that is the cliche. She just doesn't work for extended periods like in her PoV chapters imo.

Downside would be that the children are orphaned much sooner then before. Cate is dead at the end of the 3rd book i believe and at that point the children stop trying to go home. Jon remains at the wall, Robb has died, Brann is traveling away from winterfell, Sansa goes with Littlefinger and Arya goes across the sea.

To me it feels like when both their parents were dead they had little reason to go back because there wasn't really a home left for them. If Cate dies in the first season their desire to go home might be less understandable. In the books it's children that want to go back to their mother but if their mother dies early on then it ain't as compelling imo.

Kind of intresting that a character is gonna die that lived that long, keeps even the book audience on edge. Catelyn does seem like the most likely to die if they had to kill a char that lives from 1-3. Her story is not as needed without a PoV system. It would also trim down the magic aspect of the show, something i think HBO doesn't mind too much.

Then again things get complicated. Zombie-cate sends Brienne to kill Jaime (that's how i believe her chapter ends, others might feel that she gets hanged) so depending on the succes of that event it could leave the shows diverging a lot in later seasons. But like i said if Catelyn goes out then Brienne will probably be left out aswell.
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
April 23 2011 14:33 GMT
#1439
On April 23 2011 21:42 Doppelganger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 16:33 zalz wrote:
Regarding the age bump of the characters

Massive spoilers if you have not read the first 3 books.

+ Show Spoiler +
I understand why they did it and i don't mind it too much but the only exception i have is Robb. I felt his struggle was more moving because he was so very young when he was forced to fight a war and become a man.

In the end he died so young with so much potential left. The fact that he was so very young made his story so many times more sad and i feel like that will be lost in the TV-series to a certain degree.

15-16 is way too young to lead an army but 20ish seems a lot more "normal" for most people. In reality 20 is ofcourse insanely young for such a thing but from a TV/Movie perspective where a lot of fantasy characters are teens, it's considered normal.


More Massive Spoilers for books 1-3 and speculation about the differences to the show and a massive spoiler in that regard!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
I read that they will kill a character in the first season that lives on till book 3(yeah Martin advised against it but let them roll with it nonetheless). I speculate Catelyn Stark which would isolate Robb way stronger than he is in the books and thus make it less "normal". Why her? Because she actually plays only a role in Robbs Plot and of course in wittnissing Renly Baratheons Death. Clegane would be another possibility but that would rather be irrelevant in almost every regard and frankly makes no sense.


+ Show Spoiler +
Martin also said that the character who dies early is male. Your theory would require an even more massive break from the novels than you seem to suspect... :p
SF-Fork
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Russian Federation1401 Posts
April 23 2011 15:07 GMT
#1440
Up to book 3-4 spoiler+ Show Spoiler +
I think the character that dies soon is Beric Dondarrion- They probably didn't want to spend much on a good actor for him, so he dies when the war erupts instead of leading the rogue Baratheon Loyalists, which is left for Thoros of Myr
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