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Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 15:20:12
April 23 2011 15:15 GMT
#1441
On April 23 2011 23:33 LTT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 21:42 Doppelganger wrote:
On April 23 2011 16:33 zalz wrote:
Regarding the age bump of the characters

Massive spoilers if you have not read the first 3 books.

+ Show Spoiler +
I understand why they did it and i don't mind it too much but the only exception i have is Robb. I felt his struggle was more moving because he was so very young when he was forced to fight a war and become a man.

In the end he died so young with so much potential left. The fact that he was so very young made his story so many times more sad and i feel like that will be lost in the TV-series to a certain degree.

15-16 is way too young to lead an army but 20ish seems a lot more "normal" for most people. In reality 20 is ofcourse insanely young for such a thing but from a TV/Movie perspective where a lot of fantasy characters are teens, it's considered normal.


More Massive Spoilers for books 1-3 and speculation about the differences to the show and a massive spoiler in that regard!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
I read that they will kill a character in the first season that lives on till book 3(yeah Martin advised against it but let them roll with it nonetheless). I speculate Catelyn Stark which would isolate Robb way stronger than he is in the books and thus make it less "normal". Why her? Because she actually plays only a role in Robbs Plot and of course in wittnissing Renly Baratheons Death. Clegane would be another possibility but that would rather be irrelevant in almost every regard and frankly makes no sense.


+ Show Spoiler +
Martin also said that the character who dies early is male. Your theory would require an even more massive break from the novels than you seem to suspect... :p


Warning major spoilers/speculation for both the show and the books.

+ Show Spoiler +

Can I ask where you read this?

Anyway assuming its true lets try figure this out. Male characters who die in a storm of swords but also appear in AGOT: (some might die late in clash or early in feast, I'm not sure going from memory here and its not that clear, feel free to correct me)

-Beric dondarrion
-Lord mormont
-Robb stark
-Joffrey
-Tywin lannister
-Hoster Tully

Personally I can't see them killing off anyone but hoster tully without fucking the story up. Maybe Beric Dondarrion could work too, they could have the red priest lead his gang, but I don't think its him since hes really a background character in book 1, I'm not even sure if hes been cast.

[SuNdae]
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Finland323 Posts
April 23 2011 15:27 GMT
#1442
On April 24 2011 00:15 Disquiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 23:33 LTT wrote:
On April 23 2011 21:42 Doppelganger wrote:
On April 23 2011 16:33 zalz wrote:
Regarding the age bump of the characters

Massive spoilers if you have not read the first 3 books.

+ Show Spoiler +
I understand why they did it and i don't mind it too much but the only exception i have is Robb. I felt his struggle was more moving because he was so very young when he was forced to fight a war and become a man.

In the end he died so young with so much potential left. The fact that he was so very young made his story so many times more sad and i feel like that will be lost in the TV-series to a certain degree.

15-16 is way too young to lead an army but 20ish seems a lot more "normal" for most people. In reality 20 is ofcourse insanely young for such a thing but from a TV/Movie perspective where a lot of fantasy characters are teens, it's considered normal.


More Massive Spoilers for books 1-3 and speculation about the differences to the show and a massive spoiler in that regard!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
I read that they will kill a character in the first season that lives on till book 3(yeah Martin advised against it but let them roll with it nonetheless). I speculate Catelyn Stark which would isolate Robb way stronger than he is in the books and thus make it less "normal". Why her? Because she actually plays only a role in Robbs Plot and of course in wittnissing Renly Baratheons Death. Clegane would be another possibility but that would rather be irrelevant in almost every regard and frankly makes no sense.


+ Show Spoiler +
Martin also said that the character who dies early is male. Your theory would require an even more massive break from the novels than you seem to suspect... :p


Warning major spoilers/speculation for both the show and the books.

+ Show Spoiler +

Can I ask where you read this?

Anyway assuming its true lets try figure this out. Male characters who die in a storm of swords but also appear in AGOT: (some might die late in clash or early in feast, I'm not sure going from memory here and its not that clear, feel free to correct me)

-Beric dondarrion
-Lord mormont
-Robb stark
-Joffrey
-Tywin lannister
-Hoster Tully

Personally I can't see them killing off anyone but hoster tully without fucking the story up. Maybe Beric Dondarrion could work too, they could have the red priest lead his gang, but I don't think its him since hes really a background character in book 1, I'm not even sure if hes been cast.



+ Show Spoiler +
The way I see this going is killing off Lord Mormont and making Ser Jaremy Commander. This is the only way that makes any sense to me.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 23 2011 16:18 GMT
#1443
On April 24 2011 00:15 Disquiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 23:33 LTT wrote:
On April 23 2011 21:42 Doppelganger wrote:
On April 23 2011 16:33 zalz wrote:
Regarding the age bump of the characters

Massive spoilers if you have not read the first 3 books.

+ Show Spoiler +
I understand why they did it and i don't mind it too much but the only exception i have is Robb. I felt his struggle was more moving because he was so very young when he was forced to fight a war and become a man.

In the end he died so young with so much potential left. The fact that he was so very young made his story so many times more sad and i feel like that will be lost in the TV-series to a certain degree.

15-16 is way too young to lead an army but 20ish seems a lot more "normal" for most people. In reality 20 is ofcourse insanely young for such a thing but from a TV/Movie perspective where a lot of fantasy characters are teens, it's considered normal.


More Massive Spoilers for books 1-3 and speculation about the differences to the show and a massive spoiler in that regard!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
I read that they will kill a character in the first season that lives on till book 3(yeah Martin advised against it but let them roll with it nonetheless). I speculate Catelyn Stark which would isolate Robb way stronger than he is in the books and thus make it less "normal". Why her? Because she actually plays only a role in Robbs Plot and of course in wittnissing Renly Baratheons Death. Clegane would be another possibility but that would rather be irrelevant in almost every regard and frankly makes no sense.


+ Show Spoiler +
Martin also said that the character who dies early is male. Your theory would require an even more massive break from the novels than you seem to suspect... :p


Warning major spoilers/speculation for both the show and the books.

+ Show Spoiler +

Can I ask where you read this?

Anyway assuming its true lets try figure this out. Male characters who die in a storm of swords but also appear in AGOT: (some might die late in clash or early in feast, I'm not sure going from memory here and its not that clear, feel free to correct me)

-Beric dondarrion
-Lord mormont
-Robb stark
-Joffrey
-Tywin lannister
-Hoster Tully

Personally I can't see them killing off anyone but hoster tully without fucking the story up. Maybe Beric Dondarrion could work too, they could have the red priest lead his gang, but I don't think its him since hes really a background character in book 1, I'm not even sure if hes been cast.


Spoiler from book 3

+ Show Spoiler +
The most likely candidate is Rast actually. He dies in the Wildling attack on Castle Black and is a minor character who has little role in between book one and then.

thrako
Profile Joined March 2011
6 Posts
April 24 2011 02:21 GMT
#1444
Lol, so many spoilers. Ive only watched the first episode and i just bought the books so I cant read anything in this thread. I need to have a reading marathon and finish these books.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
April 24 2011 02:35 GMT
#1445
On April 24 2011 01:18 karazax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 00:15 Disquiet wrote:
On April 23 2011 23:33 LTT wrote:
On April 23 2011 21:42 Doppelganger wrote:
On April 23 2011 16:33 zalz wrote:
Regarding the age bump of the characters

Massive spoilers if you have not read the first 3 books.

+ Show Spoiler +
I understand why they did it and i don't mind it too much but the only exception i have is Robb. I felt his struggle was more moving because he was so very young when he was forced to fight a war and become a man.

In the end he died so young with so much potential left. The fact that he was so very young made his story so many times more sad and i feel like that will be lost in the TV-series to a certain degree.

15-16 is way too young to lead an army but 20ish seems a lot more "normal" for most people. In reality 20 is ofcourse insanely young for such a thing but from a TV/Movie perspective where a lot of fantasy characters are teens, it's considered normal.


More Massive Spoilers for books 1-3 and speculation about the differences to the show and a massive spoiler in that regard!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
I read that they will kill a character in the first season that lives on till book 3(yeah Martin advised against it but let them roll with it nonetheless). I speculate Catelyn Stark which would isolate Robb way stronger than he is in the books and thus make it less "normal". Why her? Because she actually plays only a role in Robbs Plot and of course in wittnissing Renly Baratheons Death. Clegane would be another possibility but that would rather be irrelevant in almost every regard and frankly makes no sense.


+ Show Spoiler +
Martin also said that the character who dies early is male. Your theory would require an even more massive break from the novels than you seem to suspect... :p


Warning major spoilers/speculation for both the show and the books.

+ Show Spoiler +

Can I ask where you read this?

Anyway assuming its true lets try figure this out. Male characters who die in a storm of swords but also appear in AGOT: (some might die late in clash or early in feast, I'm not sure going from memory here and its not that clear, feel free to correct me)

-Beric dondarrion
-Lord mormont
-Robb stark
-Joffrey
-Tywin lannister
-Hoster Tully

Personally I can't see them killing off anyone but hoster tully without fucking the story up. Maybe Beric Dondarrion could work too, they could have the red priest lead his gang, but I don't think its him since hes really a background character in book 1, I'm not even sure if hes been cast.


Spoiler from book 3

+ Show Spoiler +
The most likely candidate is Rast actually. He dies in the Wildling attack on Castle Black and is a minor character who has little role in between book one and then.


+ Show Spoiler +
I think it might be Ser Rodrick, his only involvement in the plot beyond GoT is fighting the ironmen and getting killed by Bolton's bastard.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 24 2011 03:47 GMT
#1446
On April 24 2011 11:35 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:18 karazax wrote:
On April 24 2011 00:15 Disquiet wrote:
On April 23 2011 23:33 LTT wrote:
On April 23 2011 21:42 Doppelganger wrote:
On April 23 2011 16:33 zalz wrote:
Regarding the age bump of the characters

Massive spoilers if you have not read the first 3 books.

+ Show Spoiler +
I understand why they did it and i don't mind it too much but the only exception i have is Robb. I felt his struggle was more moving because he was so very young when he was forced to fight a war and become a man.

In the end he died so young with so much potential left. The fact that he was so very young made his story so many times more sad and i feel like that will be lost in the TV-series to a certain degree.

15-16 is way too young to lead an army but 20ish seems a lot more "normal" for most people. In reality 20 is ofcourse insanely young for such a thing but from a TV/Movie perspective where a lot of fantasy characters are teens, it's considered normal.


More Massive Spoilers for books 1-3 and speculation about the differences to the show and a massive spoiler in that regard!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
I read that they will kill a character in the first season that lives on till book 3(yeah Martin advised against it but let them roll with it nonetheless). I speculate Catelyn Stark which would isolate Robb way stronger than he is in the books and thus make it less "normal". Why her? Because she actually plays only a role in Robbs Plot and of course in wittnissing Renly Baratheons Death. Clegane would be another possibility but that would rather be irrelevant in almost every regard and frankly makes no sense.


+ Show Spoiler +
Martin also said that the character who dies early is male. Your theory would require an even more massive break from the novels than you seem to suspect... :p


Warning major spoilers/speculation for both the show and the books.

+ Show Spoiler +

Can I ask where you read this?

Anyway assuming its true lets try figure this out. Male characters who die in a storm of swords but also appear in AGOT: (some might die late in clash or early in feast, I'm not sure going from memory here and its not that clear, feel free to correct me)

-Beric dondarrion
-Lord mormont
-Robb stark
-Joffrey
-Tywin lannister
-Hoster Tully

Personally I can't see them killing off anyone but hoster tully without fucking the story up. Maybe Beric Dondarrion could work too, they could have the red priest lead his gang, but I don't think its him since hes really a background character in book 1, I'm not even sure if hes been cast.


Spoiler from book 3

+ Show Spoiler +
The most likely candidate is Rast actually. He dies in the Wildling attack on Castle Black and is a minor character who has little role in between book one and then.


+ Show Spoiler +
I think it might be Ser Rodrick, his only involvement in the plot beyond GoT is fighting the ironmen and getting killed by Bolton's bastard.

Spoiler book 2
+ Show Spoiler +
No Ser Rodrick dies in book 2

Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 13:24:18
April 24 2011 13:20 GMT
#1447
Book 2-3 spoiler

+ Show Spoiler +

For some reason, I thought the hound was the one they are going to kill off, but I have no idea why. It is just something that clicked in my mind. I see how that is very unlikely, though, as it would require some major changes later on.


About the ages of the characters, it was as stated very intentional. Some of the scenes with Daenerys would be illegal to film if she were 13, and they would still be in the grey zone if they covered her up or used clever camera angles. The reason they made Robb and Jon older is probably just because they made the other Stark children older and they wanted to make the age disparities slightly similar. It seems like all of them have been aged between one to three years. (Rickon from 3 to 6, Bran from 8 to 10, Sansa from 12? to 13). I think it was a good idea, as Arya and Bran especially always felt a little too old in the way they thought and acted in relation to the age they were supposed to be. Also it will make it easier to hide that the actors will age faster than the characters. Especially for Rickon.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 13:44:21
April 24 2011 13:40 GMT
#1448
On April 24 2011 22:20 Maginor wrote:
Book 2-3 spoiler

+ Show Spoiler +

For some reason, I thought the hound was the one they are going to kill off, but I have no idea why. It is just something that clicked in my mind. I see how that is very unlikely, though, as it would require some major changes later on.


About the ages of the characters, it was as stated very intentional. Some of the scenes with Daenerys would be illegal to film if she were 13, and they would still be in the grey zone if they covered her up or used clever camera angles. The reason they made Robb and Jon older is probably just because they made the other Stark children older and they wanted to make the age disparities slightly similar. It seems like all of them have been aged between one to three years. (Rickon from 3 to 6, Bran from 8 to 10, Sansa from 12? to 13). I think it was a good idea, as Arya and Bran especially always felt a little too old in the way they thought and acted in relation to the age they were supposed to be. Also it will make it easier to hide that the actors will age faster than the characters. Especially for Rickon.


A sex scene with an actor that is of legal age is not illegal if by story she is under age. There isn't any reason that it should be illegal either.

By the way, Danny is 16 or something in the series so that's hardly the problem.


Age bumps on Arya and Brann are totally fine because whilst reading the books i allready did that in my mind. It just never struck me as realistic how they acted given their age, even if they went through what they went through.

Arya in particular is a character that i generally considered about 14 or 15 in my mind.
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
April 24 2011 13:47 GMT
#1449
On April 24 2011 22:40 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 22:20 Maginor wrote:
Book 2-3 spoiler

+ Show Spoiler +

For some reason, I thought the hound was the one they are going to kill off, but I have no idea why. It is just something that clicked in my mind. I see how that is very unlikely, though, as it would require some major changes later on.


About the ages of the characters, it was as stated very intentional. Some of the scenes with Daenerys would be illegal to film if she were 13, and they would still be in the grey zone if they covered her up or used clever camera angles. The reason they made Robb and Jon older is probably just because they made the other Stark children older and they wanted to make the age disparities slightly similar. It seems like all of them have been aged between one to three years. (Rickon from 3 to 6, Bran from 8 to 10, Sansa from 12? to 13). I think it was a good idea, as Arya and Bran especially always felt a little too old in the way they thought and acted in relation to the age they were supposed to be. Also it will make it easier to hide that the actors will age faster than the characters. Especially for Rickon.


A sex scene with an actor that is of legal age is not illegal if by story she is under age. There isn't any reason that it should be illegal either.

By the way, Danny is 16 or something in the series so that's hardly the problem.


Age bumps on Arya and Brann are totally fine because whilst reading the books i allready did that in my mind. It just never struck me as realistic how they acted given their age, even if they went through what they went through.

Arya in particular is a character that i generally considered about 14 or 15 in my mind.


She's 13 at the beginning of the books

+ Show Spoiler +
And 14 when she gets impregnated
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 13:50:23
April 24 2011 13:49 GMT
#1450
On April 24 2011 22:47 Eishi_Ki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 22:40 zalz wrote:
On April 24 2011 22:20 Maginor wrote:
Book 2-3 spoiler

+ Show Spoiler +

For some reason, I thought the hound was the one they are going to kill off, but I have no idea why. It is just something that clicked in my mind. I see how that is very unlikely, though, as it would require some major changes later on.


About the ages of the characters, it was as stated very intentional. Some of the scenes with Daenerys would be illegal to film if she were 13, and they would still be in the grey zone if they covered her up or used clever camera angles. The reason they made Robb and Jon older is probably just because they made the other Stark children older and they wanted to make the age disparities slightly similar. It seems like all of them have been aged between one to three years. (Rickon from 3 to 6, Bran from 8 to 10, Sansa from 12? to 13). I think it was a good idea, as Arya and Bran especially always felt a little too old in the way they thought and acted in relation to the age they were supposed to be. Also it will make it easier to hide that the actors will age faster than the characters. Especially for Rickon.


A sex scene with an actor that is of legal age is not illegal if by story she is under age. There isn't any reason that it should be illegal either.

By the way, Danny is 16 or something in the series so that's hardly the problem.


Age bumps on Arya and Brann are totally fine because whilst reading the books i allready did that in my mind. It just never struck me as realistic how they acted given their age, even if they went through what they went through.

Arya in particular is a character that i generally considered about 14 or 15 in my mind.


She's 13 at the beginning of the books

+ Show Spoiler +
And 14 when she gets impregnated


Yeah i know that but the whole point was that it's not illegal to film actors pretending to engage in illegal activities.

A sex scene with an underage character is not illegal if the actor is of legal age by the same reason that nobody on the set of Game of Thrones is going to be charged with murder of a fictional character.

And i think Danny is 16 in the TV-series wich is why i said series.
Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 14:01:53
April 24 2011 13:58 GMT
#1451
On April 24 2011 22:49 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 22:47 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On April 24 2011 22:40 zalz wrote:
On April 24 2011 22:20 Maginor wrote:
Book 2-3 spoiler

+ Show Spoiler +

For some reason, I thought the hound was the one they are going to kill off, but I have no idea why. It is just something that clicked in my mind. I see how that is very unlikely, though, as it would require some major changes later on.


About the ages of the characters, it was as stated very intentional. Some of the scenes with Daenerys would be illegal to film if she were 13, and they would still be in the grey zone if they covered her up or used clever camera angles. The reason they made Robb and Jon older is probably just because they made the other Stark children older and they wanted to make the age disparities slightly similar. It seems like all of them have been aged between one to three years. (Rickon from 3 to 6, Bran from 8 to 10, Sansa from 12? to 13). I think it was a good idea, as Arya and Bran especially always felt a little too old in the way they thought and acted in relation to the age they were supposed to be. Also it will make it easier to hide that the actors will age faster than the characters. Especially for Rickon.


A sex scene with an actor that is of legal age is not illegal if by story she is under age. There isn't any reason that it should be illegal either.

By the way, Danny is 16 or something in the series so that's hardly the problem.


Age bumps on Arya and Brann are totally fine because whilst reading the books i allready did that in my mind. It just never struck me as realistic how they acted given their age, even if they went through what they went through.

Arya in particular is a character that i generally considered about 14 or 15 in my mind.


She's 13 at the beginning of the books

+ Show Spoiler +
And 14 when she gets impregnated


Yeah i know that but the whole point was that it's not illegal to film actors pretending to engage in illegal activities.

A sex scene with an underage character is not illegal if the actor is of legal age by the same reason that nobody on the set of Game of Thrones is going to be charged with murder of a fictional character.

And i think Danny is 16 in the TV-series wich is why i said series.


In Norway at least, there are laws to prevent filming something that would look like child porn even if the actors are of age. This isn't exactly porn, but it would still not be very tasteful. I am not aware of the exact wording of that law. The laws are not the same for depicting murder and depicting sex, so that allegory is not useful.

Whether it is legal or not, it would still probably get them a lot of bad reactions.
Arkless
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1547 Posts
April 24 2011 14:09 GMT
#1452
Hands down, the sickest show on television atm
http://www.mixcloud.com/Arkless/ http://www.soundcloud.com/Arkless
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 24 2011 14:29 GMT
#1453
Here is an interesting article by the actor who plays the 7ft 320 lb Ser Gregor "The Mountain" Clegane about how he got the part:

http://www.conanstevens.com/acting-movies-tv-film/tall-actor-blog/ser-gregor-clegane-i-am.html
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
April 24 2011 15:50 GMT
#1454
On April 23 2011 21:04 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 20:43 deconduo wrote:
On April 23 2011 10:47 tertos wrote:
A bit unhappy about ages...

Robb should be younger, + Show Spoiler +
after all he becomes king of the north at 15

He should look more like Jeofrey Baratheon`s age
Jon is the eldest son,
Sansa looks too old, like ffs, that looks like a girl that has not bled yet?
Rickon looks too old too, he like 5?

Other than that <3 every moment
I was like...*tears of joy*.


Jon is the eldest? I seem to remember reading that:
+ Show Spoiler [Book1] +
Eddard cheated on his wife when she was pregnant, meaning Robb should be a small bit older.


Or did I get that wrong?


Problem with that is



+ Show Spoiler +
You don't know for sure if it's Eddards bastard and if it's not that means Jon could be anything from older to younger then Robb, but ofcourse by a small margin.

The books had them at essentially the same age.



Massive plot speculation/semi spoiler inside, not actually told story

+ Show Spoiler +
Well, he's not actually Eddards kid supposedly. He's the bastard child of Rheagar targaryen and Eddard's sister. Which makes a loooooooooooooooooooot more sense then Eddard sleeping around.

It's not told at all but it's sort of hinted at if you consider the nature of Eddard's character and his incredibly strained relationship with the son of his enemy, plus there's a few other bits in the books which suggest it.
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Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
April 24 2011 16:00 GMT
#1455
On April 24 2011 23:29 karazax wrote:
Here is an interesting article by the actor who plays the 7ft 320 lb Ser Gregor "The Mountain" Clegane about how he got the part:

http://www.conanstevens.com/acting-movies-tv-film/tall-actor-blog/ser-gregor-clegane-i-am.html

Interesting article. If they get far enough to cast the part of Brienne, they should just make the audition a bench press and cast whichever actress lifts the most.

By the way, for those who haven't read all the books, iaguz's post above contains REALLY MAJOR spoiler/speculation material, so be careful where you click.
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
April 24 2011 16:10 GMT
#1456
On April 24 2011 00:15 Disquiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 23:33 LTT wrote:
On April 23 2011 21:42 Doppelganger wrote:
On April 23 2011 16:33 zalz wrote:
Regarding the age bump of the characters

Massive spoilers if you have not read the first 3 books.

+ Show Spoiler +
I understand why they did it and i don't mind it too much but the only exception i have is Robb. I felt his struggle was more moving because he was so very young when he was forced to fight a war and become a man.

In the end he died so young with so much potential left. The fact that he was so very young made his story so many times more sad and i feel like that will be lost in the TV-series to a certain degree.

15-16 is way too young to lead an army but 20ish seems a lot more "normal" for most people. In reality 20 is ofcourse insanely young for such a thing but from a TV/Movie perspective where a lot of fantasy characters are teens, it's considered normal.


More Massive Spoilers for books 1-3 and speculation about the differences to the show and a massive spoiler in that regard!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
I read that they will kill a character in the first season that lives on till book 3(yeah Martin advised against it but let them roll with it nonetheless). I speculate Catelyn Stark which would isolate Robb way stronger than he is in the books and thus make it less "normal". Why her? Because she actually plays only a role in Robbs Plot and of course in wittnissing Renly Baratheons Death. Clegane would be another possibility but that would rather be irrelevant in almost every regard and frankly makes no sense.


+ Show Spoiler +
Martin also said that the character who dies early is male. Your theory would require an even more massive break from the novels than you seem to suspect... :p


Warning major spoilers/speculation for both the show and the books.

+ Show Spoiler +

Can I ask where you read this?

Anyway assuming its true lets try figure this out. Male characters who die in a storm of swords but also appear in AGOT: (some might die late in clash or early in feast, I'm not sure going from memory here and its not that clear, feel free to correct me)

-Beric dondarrion
-Lord mormont
-Robb stark
-Joffrey
-Tywin lannister
-Hoster Tully

Personally I can't see them killing off anyone but hoster tully without fucking the story up. Maybe Beric Dondarrion could work too, they could have the red priest lead his gang, but I don't think its him since hes really a background character in book 1, I'm not even sure if hes been cast.



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Source: http://winter-is-coming.net/2011/04/dd-more-ruthless-than-grrm/

Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
April 24 2011 16:22 GMT
#1457
On April 25 2011 00:50 iaguz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 21:04 zalz wrote:
On April 23 2011 20:43 deconduo wrote:
On April 23 2011 10:47 tertos wrote:
A bit unhappy about ages...

Robb should be younger, + Show Spoiler +
after all he becomes king of the north at 15

He should look more like Jeofrey Baratheon`s age
Jon is the eldest son,
Sansa looks too old, like ffs, that looks like a girl that has not bled yet?
Rickon looks too old too, he like 5?

Other than that <3 every moment
I was like...*tears of joy*.


Jon is the eldest? I seem to remember reading that:
+ Show Spoiler [Book1] +
Eddard cheated on his wife when she was pregnant, meaning Robb should be a small bit older.


Or did I get that wrong?


Problem with that is



Massive plot speculation/semi spoiler inside, not actually told story



Please remove your post. You're going to ruin it for people. Why did you even need to post this? There's acceptable spoilers, and then there's this.
There is no one like you in the universe.
Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
April 24 2011 16:37 GMT
#1458
On April 25 2011 01:22 Blisse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 00:50 iaguz wrote:
On April 23 2011 21:04 zalz wrote:
On April 23 2011 20:43 deconduo wrote:
On April 23 2011 10:47 tertos wrote:
A bit unhappy about ages...

Robb should be younger, + Show Spoiler +
after all he becomes king of the north at 15

He should look more like Jeofrey Baratheon`s age
Jon is the eldest son,
Sansa looks too old, like ffs, that looks like a girl that has not bled yet?
Rickon looks too old too, he like 5?

Other than that <3 every moment
I was like...*tears of joy*.


Jon is the eldest? I seem to remember reading that:
+ Show Spoiler [Book1] +
Eddard cheated on his wife when she was pregnant, meaning Robb should be a small bit older.


Or did I get that wrong?


Problem with that is



Massive plot speculation/semi spoiler inside, not actually told story



Please remove your post. You're going to ruin it for people. Why did you even need to post this? There's acceptable spoilers, and then there's this.


Why? He doesn't sit on more information than those who have read all the books. It is just speculation based on a points in the books, and may not even be true.
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
April 24 2011 16:57 GMT
#1459
On April 25 2011 01:22 Blisse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 00:50 iaguz wrote:
On April 23 2011 21:04 zalz wrote:
On April 23 2011 20:43 deconduo wrote:
On April 23 2011 10:47 tertos wrote:
A bit unhappy about ages...

Robb should be younger, + Show Spoiler +
after all he becomes king of the north at 15

He should look more like Jeofrey Baratheon`s age
Jon is the eldest son,
Sansa looks too old, like ffs, that looks like a girl that has not bled yet?
Rickon looks too old too, he like 5?

Other than that <3 every moment
I was like...*tears of joy*.


Jon is the eldest? I seem to remember reading that:
+ Show Spoiler [Book1] +
Eddard cheated on his wife when she was pregnant, meaning Robb should be a small bit older.


Or did I get that wrong?


Problem with that is



Massive plot speculation/semi spoiler inside, not actually told story



Please remove your post. You're going to ruin it for people. Why did you even need to post this? There's acceptable spoilers, and then there's this.


I've heard of this rumour several times, if you're at the end of book 4, I hardly suspect this spoiler to be world-ending...
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
April 24 2011 17:09 GMT
#1460
On April 25 2011 01:37 Maginor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 01:22 Blisse wrote:
On April 25 2011 00:50 iaguz wrote:
On April 23 2011 21:04 zalz wrote:
On April 23 2011 20:43 deconduo wrote:
On April 23 2011 10:47 tertos wrote:
A bit unhappy about ages...

Robb should be younger, + Show Spoiler +
after all he becomes king of the north at 15

He should look more like Jeofrey Baratheon`s age
Jon is the eldest son,
Sansa looks too old, like ffs, that looks like a girl that has not bled yet?
Rickon looks too old too, he like 5?

Other than that <3 every moment
I was like...*tears of joy*.


Jon is the eldest? I seem to remember reading that:
+ Show Spoiler [Book1] +
Eddard cheated on his wife when she was pregnant, meaning Robb should be a small bit older.


Or did I get that wrong?


Problem with that is



Massive plot speculation/semi spoiler inside, not actually told story



Please remove your post. You're going to ruin it for people. Why did you even need to post this? There's acceptable spoilers, and then there's this.


Why? He doesn't sit on more information than those who have read all the books. It is just speculation based on a points in the books, and may not even be true.


BIG SPOILERS AGAIN

+ Show Spoiler +
It's almost certainly true, tbh. Everything in the books points to it, including the title of the series. The Starks are the Ice, the Targaryens are the Fire; the song of ice and fire is Jon's song. He is the Prince that was Promised. I also suspect he'll end up with Danerys, but that's much more speculative ^_^
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