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On April 25 2011 02:09 GGQ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 01:37 Maginor wrote:On April 25 2011 01:22 Blisse wrote:On April 25 2011 00:50 iaguz wrote:On April 23 2011 21:04 zalz wrote:On April 23 2011 20:43 deconduo wrote:On April 23 2011 10:47 tertos wrote:A bit unhappy about ages... Robb should be younger, + Show Spoiler +after all he becomes king of the north at 15 He should look more like Jeofrey Baratheon`s age Jon is the eldest son, Sansa looks too old, like ffs, that looks like a girl that has not bled yet? Rickon looks too old too, he like 5? Other than that <3 every moment I was like...*tears of joy*. Jon is the eldest? I seem to remember reading that: + Show Spoiler [Book1] +Eddard cheated on his wife when she was pregnant, meaning Robb should be a small bit older. Or did I get that wrong? Problem with that is Massive plot speculation/semi spoiler inside, not actually told story Please remove your post. You're going to ruin it for people. Why did you even need to post this? There's acceptable spoilers, and then there's this. Why? He doesn't sit on more information than those who have read all the books. It is just speculation based on a points in the books, and may not even be true. BIG SPOILERS AGAIN + Show Spoiler +It's almost certainly true, tbh. Everything in the books points to it, including the title of the series. The Starks are the Ice, the Targaryens are the Fire; the song of ice and fire is Jon's song. He is the Prince that was Promised. I also suspect he'll end up with Danerys, but that's much more speculative ^_^
+ Show Spoiler [All of the Books info] +"Everything in the books" points to Jon being Eddard's son  While it may be true it's more circumstantial at this point of the story. Even the title of the Series doesn't tell us much about who/what represents Ice/Fire and if that is even relevant.
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On April 25 2011 02:20 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 02:09 GGQ wrote:On April 25 2011 01:37 Maginor wrote:On April 25 2011 01:22 Blisse wrote:On April 25 2011 00:50 iaguz wrote:On April 23 2011 21:04 zalz wrote:On April 23 2011 20:43 deconduo wrote:On April 23 2011 10:47 tertos wrote:A bit unhappy about ages... Robb should be younger, + Show Spoiler +after all he becomes king of the north at 15 He should look more like Jeofrey Baratheon`s age Jon is the eldest son, Sansa looks too old, like ffs, that looks like a girl that has not bled yet? Rickon looks too old too, he like 5? Other than that <3 every moment I was like...*tears of joy*. Jon is the eldest? I seem to remember reading that: + Show Spoiler [Book1] +Eddard cheated on his wife when she was pregnant, meaning Robb should be a small bit older. Or did I get that wrong? Problem with that is Massive plot speculation/semi spoiler inside, not actually told story Please remove your post. You're going to ruin it for people. Why did you even need to post this? There's acceptable spoilers, and then there's this. Why? He doesn't sit on more information than those who have read all the books. It is just speculation based on a points in the books, and may not even be true. BIG SPOILERS AGAIN + Show Spoiler +It's almost certainly true, tbh. Everything in the books points to it, including the title of the series. The Starks are the Ice, the Targaryens are the Fire; the song of ice and fire is Jon's song. He is the Prince that was Promised. I also suspect he'll end up with Danerys, but that's much more speculative ^_^ + Show Spoiler [All of the Books info] +"Everything in the books" points to Jon being Eddard's son While it may be true it's more circumstantial at this point of the story. Even the title of the Series doesn't tell us much about who/what represents Ice/Fire and if that is even relevant.
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The only thing in the book that points toward Jon beeing Neds son is him saying so.
I've read so much theories about jons parents, and the lyanna/rhaegar one is by far the most likely one.
The one thing that really makes me suspicious is lyannas last words "promise me ned"
I just cant imagine that her last words were "promise me ned (that you bury me in winterfell)" like the books try to make it look like.
A "promise me ned (that you take care of my son and raise him as your own)" is by far more likely.
The whole plot of what happened in the "Tower of Joy" is one of the most interesting things in the book, and with Howland Reed being the only one who is alive any longer i strongly suspect that this story will play a big, if not the biggest role, towards the end of the story.
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On April 25 2011 02:39 Mattes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 02:20 Ace wrote:On April 25 2011 02:09 GGQ wrote:On April 25 2011 01:37 Maginor wrote:On April 25 2011 01:22 Blisse wrote:On April 25 2011 00:50 iaguz wrote:On April 23 2011 21:04 zalz wrote:On April 23 2011 20:43 deconduo wrote:On April 23 2011 10:47 tertos wrote:A bit unhappy about ages... Robb should be younger, + Show Spoiler +after all he becomes king of the north at 15 He should look more like Jeofrey Baratheon`s age Jon is the eldest son, Sansa looks too old, like ffs, that looks like a girl that has not bled yet? Rickon looks too old too, he like 5? Other than that <3 every moment I was like...*tears of joy*. Jon is the eldest? I seem to remember reading that: + Show Spoiler [Book1] +Eddard cheated on his wife when she was pregnant, meaning Robb should be a small bit older. Or did I get that wrong? Problem with that is Massive plot speculation/semi spoiler inside, not actually told story Please remove your post. You're going to ruin it for people. Why did you even need to post this? There's acceptable spoilers, and then there's this. Why? He doesn't sit on more information than those who have read all the books. It is just speculation based on a points in the books, and may not even be true. BIG SPOILERS AGAIN + Show Spoiler +It's almost certainly true, tbh. Everything in the books points to it, including the title of the series. The Starks are the Ice, the Targaryens are the Fire; the song of ice and fire is Jon's song. He is the Prince that was Promised. I also suspect he'll end up with Danerys, but that's much more speculative ^_^ + Show Spoiler [All of the Books info] +"Everything in the books" points to Jon being Eddard's son While it may be true it's more circumstantial at this point of the story. Even the title of the Series doesn't tell us much about who/what represents Ice/Fire and if that is even relevant. + Show Spoiler [DONT READ THIS IF YOU HAVENT READ BOOK 4] +
The only thing in the book that points toward Jon being Neds son is him saying so.
I've read so much theories about jons parents, and the lyanna/rhaegar one is by far the most likely one.
The one thing that really makes me suspicious is lyannas last words "promise me ned"
I just cant imagine that her last words were "promise me ned (that you bury me in winterfell)" like the books try to make it look like.
A "promise me ned (that you take care of my son and raise him as your own)" is by far more likely.
The whole plot of what happened in the "Tower of Joy" is one of the most interesting things in the book, and with Howland Reed being the only one who is alive any longer i strongly suspect that this story will play a big, if not the biggest role, towards the end of the story.
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Ditto on Howland Reed. He's holding on to some big secret for sure. In Book 4 they made it a point to mention he was the only one besides Ned to survive the excursion into the Tower.
However while the theory is plausible it's not likely. Ned has called Jon his son, there have been numerous mentions to Jon having Ned's features and looking like a Stark.
The only way I think the theory holds is if you subscribe to the Arya - Lyanna link. Remember the books always made a mention of how Arya reminds them of their Aunt Lyanna. Arya and Jon are also the only 2 that they say inherited Ned's features. So I guess it's plausible to say that since Arya looks like Ned and Lyanna then Jon can look like Ned via Lyanna.
God damn this series is sweet.
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On April 25 2011 03:12 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 02:39 Mattes wrote:On April 25 2011 02:20 Ace wrote:On April 25 2011 02:09 GGQ wrote:On April 25 2011 01:37 Maginor wrote:On April 25 2011 01:22 Blisse wrote:On April 25 2011 00:50 iaguz wrote:On April 23 2011 21:04 zalz wrote:On April 23 2011 20:43 deconduo wrote:On April 23 2011 10:47 tertos wrote:A bit unhappy about ages... Robb should be younger, + Show Spoiler +after all he becomes king of the north at 15 He should look more like Jeofrey Baratheon`s age Jon is the eldest son, Sansa looks too old, like ffs, that looks like a girl that has not bled yet? Rickon looks too old too, he like 5? Other than that <3 every moment I was like...*tears of joy*. Jon is the eldest? I seem to remember reading that: + Show Spoiler [Book1] +Eddard cheated on his wife when she was pregnant, meaning Robb should be a small bit older. Or did I get that wrong? Problem with that is Massive plot speculation/semi spoiler inside, not actually told story Please remove your post. You're going to ruin it for people. Why did you even need to post this? There's acceptable spoilers, and then there's this. Why? He doesn't sit on more information than those who have read all the books. It is just speculation based on a points in the books, and may not even be true. BIG SPOILERS AGAIN + Show Spoiler +It's almost certainly true, tbh. Everything in the books points to it, including the title of the series. The Starks are the Ice, the Targaryens are the Fire; the song of ice and fire is Jon's song. He is the Prince that was Promised. I also suspect he'll end up with Danerys, but that's much more speculative ^_^ + Show Spoiler [All of the Books info] +"Everything in the books" points to Jon being Eddard's son While it may be true it's more circumstantial at this point of the story. Even the title of the Series doesn't tell us much about who/what represents Ice/Fire and if that is even relevant. + Show Spoiler [DONT READ THIS IF YOU HAVENT READ BOOK 4] +
The only thing in the book that points toward Jon being Neds son is him saying so.
I've read so much theories about jons parents, and the lyanna/rhaegar one is by far the most likely one.
The one thing that really makes me suspicious is lyannas last words "promise me ned"
I just cant imagine that her last words were "promise me ned (that you bury me in winterfell)" like the books try to make it look like.
A "promise me ned (that you take care of my son and raise him as your own)" is by far more likely.
The whole plot of what happened in the "Tower of Joy" is one of the most interesting things in the book, and with Howland Reed being the only one who is alive any longer i strongly suspect that this story will play a big, if not the biggest role, towards the end of the story.
+ Show Spoiler [All of the Books info] +
Ditto on Howland Reed. He's holding on to some big secret for sure. In Book 4 they made it a point to mention he was the only one besides Ned to survive the excursion into the Tower.
However while the theory is plausible it's not likely. Ned has called Jon his son, there have been numerous mentions to Jon having Ned's features and looking like a Stark.
The only way I think the theory holds is if you subscribe to the Arya - Lyanna link. Remember the books always made a mention of how Arya reminds them of their Aunt Lyanna. Arya and Jon are also the only 2 that they say inherited Ned's features. So I guess it's plausible to say that since Arya looks like Ned and Lyanna then Jon can look like Ned via Lyanna.
God damn this series is sweet.
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Ned calls Jon his son, because he's afraid that if King Robert knew the truth, he'd have Jon killed. Robert's hatred for the Targaryens is... Well-known.
Whether or not Robert would kill Lyanna's son can be up for debate - but Ned is not a person who would take that risk.
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Someone should make a new thread dedicated to the books. This is the hbo tv show thread but its just full of spoilers that will ruin the show for people who have not read the books
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when will the show start in TL time?
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Well, the pilot was pretty good. I like Sean Bean from Lotr and im glad he is in this too.
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Second episode airing soon!
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theres a justin.tv live link for those wondering.
edit: it was taken down
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tt I want to watch it! =(
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My grandad worked on this show location scouting and props etc :D
I am yet to watch it though.
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I'm so pissed off
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That queen and little faggot prince, hope they are killed.
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So, anyone have thoughts on this episode? Better or worse than the first one?
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On April 25 2011 10:57 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:I'm so pissed off + Show Spoiler +
That queen and little faggot prince, hope they are killed.
But Joffrey is such a sweet, charming prince!
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On April 25 2011 10:57 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:I'm so pissed off + Show Spoiler +
That queen and little faggot prince, hope they are killed.
haha you will hope that 90% of the characters in the future will die... most are evil douchebags
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