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PerryHooter
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden268 Posts
April 22 2013 22:21 GMT
#14141
It's also worth mentioning that Brienne said something along the lines of Jamie being worse than she had expected, and that "maybe people just love to praise a famous name". Sure he was weakened due to the captivity, and his hands were tied, but it's worth mentioning.

Only thing that's certain is that Barristan Selmy is a beast with the sword, as several characters have expressed (Jorah Mormont, Jamie, Ned Stark etc.)

Also, when Ned Stark got sentenced to death Jamie was at Casterly Rock I think? If so it would have been a little impractical to have a trial by combat and wait for Jamie to get there. Or maybe had he already been captured by the Starks?
"The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt"
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 22:23:59
April 22 2013 22:21 GMT
#14142
On April 23 2013 07:15 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 07:07 RogerChillingworth wrote:
jaime has said in the past that there are several people in westeros who would be challenging (or could beat him) with a sword. he's among the best, not necessarily the best.


When did he say this?
The only time I recall him saying anything about his own skill level was the first episode of season 1 when he goading Ned. He mentioned that the competition at court was getting stale.


He said it in season 2, to Brienne I think. I think he said there were perhaps three men in Westeros who could beat him.

Without going into the unmentionable there is not a great deal to add as to who these men might be. There are few fights in the show and little talk of previous personal combat.

On April 23 2013 07:21 PerryHooter wrote:
It's also worth mentioning that Brienne said something along the lines of Jamie being worse than she had expected, and that "maybe people just love to praise a famous name". Sure he was weakened due to the captivity, and his hands were tied, but it's worth mentioning.

Only thing that's certain is that Barristan Selmy is a beast with the sword, as several characters have expressed (Jorah Mormont, Jamie, Ned Stark etc.)

Also, when Ned Stark got sentenced to death Jamie was at Casterly Rock I think? If so it would have been a little impractical to have a trial by combat and wait for Jamie to get there. Or maybe had he already been captured by the Starks?


Barristan was there. Ned was up for treason so it would be fitting for the commander of the kingsguard to face him.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 22 2013 22:22 GMT
#14143
On April 23 2013 07:15 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 07:07 RogerChillingworth wrote:
jaime has said in the past that there are several people in westeros who would be challenging (or could beat him) with a sword. he's among the best, not necessarily the best.


When did he say this?
The only time I recall him saying anything about his own skill level was the first episode of season 1 when he goading Ned. He mentioned that the competition at court was getting stale.

Season 2, Episode 8, when talking to Brienne.

Brienne of Tarth: You will not provoke me to anger.
Jaime Lannister: I already have. Look at you. You're ready to chop my head off. Do you think you could? Do you think you can beat me in a fair fight?
Brienne of Tarth: I've never seen you fight.
Jaime Lannister: The answer is no. There are three men in the kingdoms who might have a chance against me. You're not one of them.


keep in mind though, this is Jaime being his cocky self, and it doesn't necessarily state facts.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
April 22 2013 22:28 GMT
#14144
On April 23 2013 07:21 hzflank wrote:


Barristan was there. Ned was up for treason so it would be fitting for the commander of the kingsguard to face him.

Pretty sure barristan would have refused to be the champion. He didn't want ned killed at all.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 22:33:40
April 22 2013 22:29 GMT
#14145
Wahaaa that episode was fucking crazy, so much shit went down!

The grinding misery of Jaime and Theon is so vivid, and man...Danaerys!!! I totally knew that was going to happen but that was spectacularly executed. The big reveal that she spoke their language all along haha. What a killer character . She is the coolest. With a fairly just heart but totally ruthless in her pursuit of the throne.

It's really hard not to love Dany, especially because Emilia Clarke is gorgeous as hell.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 22:44:01
April 22 2013 22:42 GMT
#14146
On April 23 2013 07:22 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 07:15 c0ldfusion wrote:
On April 23 2013 07:07 RogerChillingworth wrote:
jaime has said in the past that there are several people in westeros who would be challenging (or could beat him) with a sword. he's among the best, not necessarily the best.


When did he say this?
The only time I recall him saying anything about his own skill level was the first episode of season 1 when he goading Ned. He mentioned that the competition at court was getting stale.

Season 2, Episode 8, when talking to Brienne.

Brienne of Tarth: You will not provoke me to anger.
Jaime Lannister: I already have. Look at you. You're ready to chop my head off. Do you think you could? Do you think you can beat me in a fair fight?
Brienne of Tarth: I've never seen you fight.
Jaime Lannister: The answer is no. There are three men in the kingdoms who might have a chance against me. You're not one of them.


keep in mind though, this is Jaime being his cocky self, and it doesn't necessarily state facts.


Ah fair enough. Thanks for citing.
jxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil307 Posts
April 22 2013 22:46 GMT
#14147
Wow... the whole Dany scene brought tears to my eyes. Not joking. Brilliantly done and executed.
ixi.genocide
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States981 Posts
April 22 2013 22:47 GMT
#14148
On April 23 2013 05:01 Emnjay808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
"You should try stopping him from doing what he likes."

"I will."


Tywin scenes are the best. This guy is on top of the game imo.

Lol Tywin Lannister is the game.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
April 22 2013 23:19 GMT
#14149
On April 23 2013 07:47 ixi.genocide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 05:01 Emnjay808 wrote:
"You should try stopping him from doing what he likes."

"I will."


Tywin scenes are the best. This guy is on top of the game imo.

Lol Tywin Lannister is the game.

Lord Varys and Littlefinger would beg to differ
you no take candle
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
April 22 2013 23:21 GMT
#14150
On April 23 2013 08:19 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 07:47 ixi.genocide wrote:
On April 23 2013 05:01 Emnjay808 wrote:
"You should try stopping him from doing what he likes."

"I will."


Tywin scenes are the best. This guy is on top of the game imo.

Lol Tywin Lannister is the game.

Lord Varys and Littlefinger would beg to differ

Tywin Lannister IS the game. Varys/littlefinger are flash/jaedong.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 23:24:42
April 22 2013 23:24 GMT
#14151
I can't believe I forgot who that eyepatch guy was. When I remembered, I completely shit my bricks. I guess I'm just retarded though, because my roommate was all "yeah, that was kind of the point"

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Not a spoiler at all, just spoilering to be nice to people scrolling through.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 22 2013 23:42 GMT
#14152
I've never seen a show with so much story to follow. There are easily two dozen important characters storylines of their own, which are combined into a huge ultra-complex main plot. There's too little screen time to even show all the most important characters each episode, even though they outrageously omitted the boobies this week.

I don't quite get what Theon's captor did. He fake freed him to get information, this much is clear, but why would he kill his own men and say Theon did it? Was he not allowed to kill them but did it anyway to make his scheme more believable to Theon and get more information?

Daenerys is now finally a legitimate force with power to back up her claims. She owned the overconfident douchebag slaver guy in predictable fashion and now commands a respectable army. This may well convince the Dothraki to join her as well because they follow strong warlords. By the time she ships her men over to Westeros, her dragons will have grown up, making Daenerys the dominant military force by a wide margin.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
April 22 2013 23:48 GMT
#14153
On April 23 2013 08:42 Scorch wrote:
I've never seen a show with so much story to follow. There are easily two dozen important characters storylines of their own, which are combined into a huge ultra-complex main plot. There's too little screen time to even show all the most important characters each episode, even though they outrageously omitted the boobies this week.

I don't quite get what Theon's captor did. He fake freed him to get information, this much is clear, but why would he kill his own men and say Theon did it? Was he not allowed to kill them but did it anyway to make his scheme more believable to Theon and get more information?

Daenerys is now finally a legitimate force with power to back up her claims. She owned the overconfident douchebag slaver guy in predictable fashion and now commands a respectable army. This may well convince the Dothraki to join her as well because they follow strong warlords. By the time she ships her men over to Westeros, her dragons will have grown up, making Daenerys the dominant military force by a wide margin.

I suppose it's possible the men had stuffed their backs with straw and had chain mail on underneath and faked death. though its also possible the kid is a sadist.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
April 22 2013 23:49 GMT
#14154
He shot 1 guy in the head, so I am pretty sure that guy is dead :D
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
April 22 2013 23:50 GMT
#14155
On April 23 2013 08:49 KadaverBB wrote:
He shot 1 guy in the head, so I am pretty sure that guy is dead :D

Fake head and guy is actually a dwarf? ummm no yeah that guy is dead.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 23:54:11
April 22 2013 23:54 GMT
#14156
Didn't you see the look on that guys face when Theon realized what happened?

He's sadistic as fuck. Which I guess is kind of a requisite for being in charge of torturing people.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
April 23 2013 00:02 GMT
#14157
On April 23 2013 07:06 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 07:02 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Marginally defeating a random Knight at Renlys tourny hardly inspires to me the notion that Brienne is amongst the worlds best.

edit: she literally was disarmed and won by checking the guy to the ground. I imagine Jaime could disarm her far easier than that knight did, and I dont think he'd be foolish enough to get checked to the ground by her either.

Didn't she beat Loras tyrell who is one of the best swordsmen in the seven kingdoms (certainly the best in the tyrell's army) and not some random? And Jaime seemed to think Ned could beat him, hence why jaime was so upset that a soldier stabbed ned mid duel he wanted to see if he could beat ned.

Is he one of the best swordsmen? Everything we hear about him is in relation to his jousting/riding abilities.

As for the whole Jaime issue, I fence for my university. A year of absolutely zero exercise/practice/malnutrition will fuck you up, and make you slow and predictable, just as Brienne says. And that's a sport with probably less physical requirements than outright swordfighting. Was he still overrated? Maybe, but I'd say he has a hell of an excuse, especially given Brienne's style seems to be in hitting very hard against physically weaker opponents.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
April 23 2013 00:04 GMT
#14158
On April 23 2013 08:24 Fruscainte wrote:
I can't believe I forgot who that eyepatch guy was. When I remembered, I completely shit my bricks. I guess I'm just retarded though, because my roommate was all "yeah, that was kind of the point"

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Not a spoiler at all, just spoilering to be nice to people scrolling through.


Yes, this is the scene from Season 1 where Beric Dondarrion makes his appearance:



Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
April 23 2013 00:06 GMT
#14159
On April 23 2013 07:01 scudst0rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 06:50 Noro wrote:
I was just sitting here at work, reflecting on how awesome that episode was when it hit me...

Was Ser Barristan ever in the small council meetings when Varys was talking about Jorrah spying on Dany? That would create hella drama. Jorrah obviously has stopped feeding information to the capital, but that would be a potential relationship ruiner if Barristan told that to Danarys.

Thoughts?


I don't remember if Ser Barristan was in any of those scenes. On a related note HBO included a particularly old scene in next weeks recap:



Ugh, I hadn't even seen that recap when I thought of that. I'm sad now :C
Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
April 23 2013 00:08 GMT
#14160
why did that servant release theon just to take him back to the dungeon again?
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