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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
April 22 2013 21:37 GMT
#14121
Amazingly well done episode.

I sincerely believe this show is the best book adaptation I've ever seen so far.
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sc_a.M
Profile Joined April 2013
420 Posts
April 22 2013 21:40 GMT
#14122
On April 23 2013 05:30 eviltomahawk wrote:
Ran into this in the DotA2 subreddit...

+ Show Spoiler +
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And this complements it well...

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I couldn't keep these images out of my head when I finally watched the episode today.

And Natalie Dormer is pretty damn cute.



lol epic
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
April 22 2013 21:46 GMT
#14123
On April 23 2013 06:30 duoform wrote:
The dragons are getting big already. I really hope she gets to King's Landing by the end of this season. Wanna see more fire from now on.
Also, am I the only one around here who thinks Jaime is not gonna make it? I think he dies in the near future due his state.

He'll live. He wanted to die but brienne convinced him to live and take revenge
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Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
April 22 2013 21:48 GMT
#14124
On April 23 2013 06:30 duoform wrote:
The dragons are getting big already. I really hope she gets to King's Landing by the end of this season. Wanna see more fire from now on.
Also, am I the only one around here who thinks Jaime is not gonna make it? I think he dies in the near future due his state.


Nah, Jaime's character is finally being extremely developed. We can see that he's not the scoundrel he was displayed as, he has empathy and carrying inside him (saving her from being raped). I feel like, at worst, he'll last another 2-3 seasons if not all the way through.
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
TymerA
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands759 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 21:53:32
April 22 2013 21:49 GMT
#14125
MOD EDIT: Removed spoiler
nice.
zmsFlood
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland169 Posts
April 22 2013 21:50 GMT
#14126
On April 23 2013 06:30 duoform wrote:
The dragons are getting big already. I really hope she gets to King's Landing by the end of this season. Wanna see more fire from now on.
Also, am I the only one around here who thinks Jaime is not gonna make it? I think he dies in the near future due his state.


No way Jaime's gonna die imo. I have the feeling that he's gonna have a big part to play later in the story, and that he's in the end going to defy his father in some way. I think this whole journey with Brienne is going to profoundly change him and that afterwards he's not going to be the douche he was in the previous seasons. By the way I never thought I could be capable of feeling sorry for the Kingslayer but I have to admit I did when he was once again beaten by those thugs, with his hand hanging off of a rope right next to his nose.
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Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
April 22 2013 21:50 GMT
#14127
I was just sitting here at work, reflecting on how awesome that episode was when it hit me...

Was Ser Barristan ever in the small council meetings when Varys was talking about Jorrah spying on Dany? That would create hella drama. Jorrah obviously has stopped feeding information to the capital, but that would be a potential relationship ruiner if Barristan told that to Danarys.

Thoughts?
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Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
April 22 2013 21:58 GMT
#14128
On April 23 2013 06:30 duoform wrote:
The dragons are getting big already. I really hope she gets to King's Landing by the end of this season. Wanna see more fire from now on.
Also, am I the only one around here who thinks Jaime is not gonna make it? I think he dies in the near future due his state.


I dont think Jamie will die. I think the hand chop was the beginning of his redemption arc. He can no longer rely on his daddy, he has lost his fighting skills and I wouldnt be surprised if they tortured him some more so he can no longer rely on his good looks. Basically turning him into a completely different character.
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
April 22 2013 22:01 GMT
#14129
On April 23 2013 06:50 Noro wrote:
I was just sitting here at work, reflecting on how awesome that episode was when it hit me...

Was Ser Barristan ever in the small council meetings when Varys was talking about Jorrah spying on Dany? That would create hella drama. Jorrah obviously has stopped feeding information to the capital, but that would be a potential relationship ruiner if Barristan told that to Danarys.

Thoughts?


I don't remember if Ser Barristan was in any of those scenes. On a related note HBO included a particularly old scene in next weeks recap:

You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 22:03:12
April 22 2013 22:02 GMT
#14130
On April 23 2013 06:26 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 06:08 karazax wrote:
On April 23 2013 06:00 Wolfstan wrote:
I don't understand the whole trial by combat thing, does being good with a sword mean you will never be found guilty of a crime? Why didn't Ned do trial by combat? is it their beliefs that the old gods or new will decide who wins or a non-religous reason that trial by combat is an acceptable form of justice.


Basicly yes trial by combat is a get out of jail free card for nobles if you are skilled enough with a sword, but Ned plee bargained to save his daughters if you remember and wasn't supposed to die for his confession, he was supposed to go to the wall. After he confessed, he couldn't then claim he was innocent and ask for trial by combat. Plus his leg was still hurt from when it had the spear run thru it and he was weak from being imprisoned for so long.

also its questionable whether or not he could beat jaime in single combat even if he was fully healthy. he definitely could not with an injury though. Trial by combat pretty much ensures the Lannisters are guilt free. Jaime is such a skilled swordsman (was i guess) that there are quite few people who could beat him, the mountain, Bronn, Briann, Ned (on a good day), are probably the only people seen so far that could beat him though possibly Selmy could i'm not sure how well his sword arm aged. And as you know most of those people serve/served the lannisters.
I doubt Brianne or Ned could beat him. Ned seemed a little obsequious about Selmys' skill with a blade, but maybe that was just being kind or whatever. Regardless, Brianne only marginally defeated some random knight at Renly's Touranment. Clearly shes a good knight [on top of the physical strength], but they make Jaime off to be one of the best swordsmen on the planet. Marginally defeating a random Knight at Renlys tourny hardly inspires to me the notion that Brienne is amongst the worlds best.

edit: she literally was disarmed and won by checking the guy to the ground. I imagine Jaime could disarm her far easier than that knight did, and I dont think he'd be foolish enough to get checked to the ground by her either.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
April 22 2013 22:06 GMT
#14131
On April 23 2013 07:02 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Marginally defeating a random Knight at Renlys tourny hardly inspires to me the notion that Brienne is amongst the worlds best.

edit: she literally was disarmed and won by checking the guy to the ground. I imagine Jaime could disarm her far easier than that knight did, and I dont think he'd be foolish enough to get checked to the ground by her either.

Didn't she beat Loras tyrell who is one of the best swordsmen in the seven kingdoms (certainly the best in the tyrell's army) and not some random? And Jaime seemed to think Ned could beat him, hence why jaime was so upset that a soldier stabbed ned mid duel he wanted to see if he could beat ned.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 22 2013 22:06 GMT
#14132
On April 23 2013 07:02 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 06:26 PrinceXizor wrote:
On April 23 2013 06:08 karazax wrote:
On April 23 2013 06:00 Wolfstan wrote:
I don't understand the whole trial by combat thing, does being good with a sword mean you will never be found guilty of a crime? Why didn't Ned do trial by combat? is it their beliefs that the old gods or new will decide who wins or a non-religous reason that trial by combat is an acceptable form of justice.


Basicly yes trial by combat is a get out of jail free card for nobles if you are skilled enough with a sword, but Ned plee bargained to save his daughters if you remember and wasn't supposed to die for his confession, he was supposed to go to the wall. After he confessed, he couldn't then claim he was innocent and ask for trial by combat. Plus his leg was still hurt from when it had the spear run thru it and he was weak from being imprisoned for so long.

also its questionable whether or not he could beat jaime in single combat even if he was fully healthy. he definitely could not with an injury though. Trial by combat pretty much ensures the Lannisters are guilt free. Jaime is such a skilled swordsman (was i guess) that there are quite few people who could beat him, the mountain, Bronn, Briann, Ned (on a good day), are probably the only people seen so far that could beat him though possibly Selmy could i'm not sure how well his sword arm aged. And as you know most of those people serve/served the lannisters.
I doubt Brianne or Ned could beat him. Ned seemed a little obsequious about Selmys' skill with a blade, but maybe that was just being kind or whatever. Regardless, Brianne only marginally defeated some random knight at Renly's Touranment. Clearly shes a good knight [on top of the physical strength], but they make Jaime off to be one of the best swordsmen on the planet. Marginally defeating a random Knight at Renlys tourny hardly inspires to me the notion that Brienne is amongst the worlds best.

edit: she literally was disarmed and won by checking the guy to the ground. I imagine Jaime could disarm her far easier than that knight did, and I dont think he'd be foolish enough to get checked to the ground by her either.


She beat Loras in that tournament.
Doppelganger
Profile Joined May 2010
488 Posts
April 22 2013 22:07 GMT
#14133
On April 23 2013 07:02 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 06:26 PrinceXizor wrote:
On April 23 2013 06:08 karazax wrote:
On April 23 2013 06:00 Wolfstan wrote:
I don't understand the whole trial by combat thing, does being good with a sword mean you will never be found guilty of a crime? Why didn't Ned do trial by combat? is it their beliefs that the old gods or new will decide who wins or a non-religous reason that trial by combat is an acceptable form of justice.


Basicly yes trial by combat is a get out of jail free card for nobles if you are skilled enough with a sword, but Ned plee bargained to save his daughters if you remember and wasn't supposed to die for his confession, he was supposed to go to the wall. After he confessed, he couldn't then claim he was innocent and ask for trial by combat. Plus his leg was still hurt from when it had the spear run thru it and he was weak from being imprisoned for so long.

also its questionable whether or not he could beat jaime in single combat even if he was fully healthy. he definitely could not with an injury though. Trial by combat pretty much ensures the Lannisters are guilt free. Jaime is such a skilled swordsman (was i guess) that there are quite few people who could beat him, the mountain, Bronn, Briann, Ned (on a good day), are probably the only people seen so far that could beat him though possibly Selmy could i'm not sure how well his sword arm aged. And as you know most of those people serve/served the lannisters.
I doubt Brianne or Ned could beat him. Ned seemed a little obsequious about Selmys' skill with a blade, but maybe that was just being kind or whatever. Regardless, Brianne only marginally defeated some random knight at Renly's Touranment. Clearly shes a good knight [on top of the physical strength], but they make Jaime off to be one of the best swordsmen on the planet. Marginally defeating a random Knight at Renlys tourny hardly inspires to me the notion that Brienne is amongst the worlds best.

edit: she literally was disarmed and won by checking the guy to the ground. I imagine Jaime could disarm her far easier than that knight did, and I dont think he'd be foolish enough to get checked to the ground by her either.


She defeated Loras Tyrell not someone random.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3075 Posts
April 22 2013 22:07 GMT
#14134
jaime has said in the past that there are several people in westeros who would be challenging (or could beat him) with a sword. he's among the best, not necessarily the best.
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
April 22 2013 22:08 GMT
#14135
On April 23 2013 06:50 Noro wrote:
I was just sitting here at work, reflecting on how awesome that episode was when it hit me...

Was Ser Barristan ever in the small council meetings when Varys was talking about Jorrah spying on Dany? That would create hella drama. Jorrah obviously has stopped feeding information to the capital, but that would be a potential relationship ruiner if Barristan told that to Danarys.

Thoughts?


Even if she does find out about his past it would be so fucked up if she did anything about it. He has been there for her since day 1 and saved her life twice.

Recaps always give away big spoilers. :/
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 22:08:53
April 22 2013 22:08 GMT
#14136
guys barristan the bold aka selmy is the best!

other greats included Jamie, Ned, and the Clegane brothers.

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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 22:13:40
April 22 2013 22:11 GMT
#14137
On April 23 2013 07:06 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 07:02 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Marginally defeating a random Knight at Renlys tourny hardly inspires to me the notion that Brienne is amongst the worlds best.

edit: she literally was disarmed and won by checking the guy to the ground. I imagine Jaime could disarm her far easier than that knight did, and I dont think he'd be foolish enough to get checked to the ground by her either.

Didn't she beat Loras tyrell who is one of the best swordsmen in the seven kingdoms (certainly the best in the tyrell's army) and not some random? And Jaime seemed to think Ned could beat him, hence why jaime was so upset that a soldier stabbed ned mid duel he wanted to see if he could beat ned.
Ah right, I forgot it was Loras. And I dont see how its implying that Jaime thought ned could beat him because there was interference...it seems pretty clear he didnt want his reputation hurt by getting aid...
On April 23 2013 07:07 RogerChillingworth wrote:
jaime has said in the past that there are several people in westeros who would be challenging (or could beat him) with a sword. he's among the best, not necessarily the best.
He said there was three who could "maybe" beat him. I still dont see Brienne getting out sworded (??) by Loras and checking him to the ground as anything resembling enough to think she could take Jaime. Loras hasnt even been to war, hes like twenty. The experience factor is entirely different.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
April 22 2013 22:13 GMT
#14138
On April 23 2013 07:11 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 07:06 PrinceXizor wrote:
On April 23 2013 07:02 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Marginally defeating a random Knight at Renlys tourny hardly inspires to me the notion that Brienne is amongst the worlds best.

edit: she literally was disarmed and won by checking the guy to the ground. I imagine Jaime could disarm her far easier than that knight did, and I dont think he'd be foolish enough to get checked to the ground by her either.

Didn't she beat Loras tyrell who is one of the best swordsmen in the seven kingdoms (certainly the best in the tyrell's army) and not some random? And Jaime seemed to think Ned could beat him, hence why jaime was so upset that a soldier stabbed ned mid duel he wanted to see if he could beat ned.
Ah right, I forgot it was Loras. And I dont see how its implying that Jaime thought ned could beat him because there was interference...it seems pretty clear he didnt want his reputation hurt by getting aid...

Jaime said that Ned was one of the best, and that jaime wanted to prove himself the better swordsman, if you know you can beat someone you don't have anything to prove. its not that someone interfered, its his reaction to the soldier that interfered that supports this.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 22 2013 22:15 GMT
#14139
On April 23 2013 07:07 RogerChillingworth wrote:
jaime has said in the past that there are several people in westeros who would be challenging (or could beat him) with a sword. he's among the best, not necessarily the best.


When did he say this?
The only time I recall him saying anything about his own skill level was the first episode of season 1 when he goading Ned. He mentioned that the competition at court was getting stale.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
April 22 2013 22:20 GMT
#14140
On April 23 2013 07:15 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 07:07 RogerChillingworth wrote:
jaime has said in the past that there are several people in westeros who would be challenging (or could beat him) with a sword. he's among the best, not necessarily the best.


When did he say this?
The only time I recall him saying anything about his own skill level was the first episode of season 1 when he goading Ned. He mentioned that the competition at court was getting stale.


according to the narratives, there are many that can beat him by strength such as sandor clegane or robert baratheon but he figured he'll still win because he is faster and smarter.
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