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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 17 2013 01:56 GMT
#13601
On April 17 2013 10:52 loiop wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't enjoy watching this show at all since I've read the books and know everything that happens? Such a shame aswell. Good tv entertainment is rare these days.


You're in the wrong thread.

You can voice your complaints in the book/TV thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225659
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 17 2013 01:56 GMT
#13602
On April 17 2013 07:53 IamVirGin wrote:




Dany is still far away. Dragons are small still. Only 8000 men. She will be a force, that is obvious, but I doubt it will be this season. Wonder how they're gonna make her a threat but not overpowered, with dragons.





This is not an mmo, they don't have to balance anything and on top of that grrm loves to kill people.
I believe that in the end daenerys is destined to own everyone, easily.

And maybe she won't need to, the ice zombie apocalypse may make her seem as a savior if she arrives at westeros in just the right time.
The last targaryen with 3 bamf dragons vs the ice thingies. I think everyone will love her.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
April 17 2013 01:59 GMT
#13603
On April 17 2013 10:44 Beorn1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 10:29 Whitewing wrote:
On April 17 2013 10:04 Beorn1 wrote:
OK i think I figured out what the khaleesi is thinking. Right before the trade scene Selmy says something along the lines of "When men fought for your father they did it out of love." and Jorah is like "Yea but he died." After reading some comments in this thread about sacking the city, I think she will buy the slaves and tell them they are free. So then she can have an army like her father or brother (forgot which one) where they will follow her out of choice.


For the record, Rhaegar is her brother, not father. Her father was the mad king, people didn't really follow him out of love, at least not near the end.



Ah ok. Thanks for the clarification. But people did like her brother right? Or was Selmy bsing her lol.


Well, it seems like it, but I don't think anyone in the show has really talked about Rhaegar at all other than people talking to Dany.

Wait, didn't King Robert talk to Ned about how horrible Rhaegar was at some point? Or am I mis-remembering?
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 17 2013 02:09 GMT
#13604
I'm pretty sad about Tyrion getting appointed as finance minister, because it's furthering the fact that out of my favorite two characters, him and Robb (Bronn is a close third), someone's about to get fucked.

Either Tyrion does his job, and does it well, which means the Lannisters get money and now they can just extend the conflict until Robb's men run out of resources and retreat. And then Tyrion is either shafted by his dad or he's running for his life, because every time he does something right it seems to happen to him.

And then Robb dies, and Winterfell is Lannister turf until Dany, Stannis, or someone else decides they want to be King and make the Lannisters pull back to defend. But this is all less certain than that first half of the prediction.

Or Tyrion doesn't do his job, is further humiliated, and the Iron Bank funds Robb who goes into meth-mode from all the money and gets to King's Landing. Although given the Blackwater episode, I think Robb would be one to die in the invasion.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 17 2013 02:13 GMT
#13605
Oh and also to add to my theorycraft list, Catelyn's remark about Talisa's marriage being the death of Robb's army's unity is probably foreshadowing.
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Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 02:17:50
April 17 2013 02:13 GMT
#13606
On April 17 2013 11:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm pretty sad about Tyrion getting appointed as finance minister, because it's furthering the fact that out of my favorite two characters, him and Robb (Bronn is a close third), someone's about to get fucked.

Either Tyrion does his job, and does it well, which means the Lannisters get money and now they can just extend the conflict until Robb's men run out of resources and retreat. And then Tyrion is either shafted by his dad or he's running for his life, because every time he does something right it seems to happen to him.

And then Robb dies, and Winterfell is Lannister turf until Dany, Stannis, or someone else decides they want to be King and make the Lannisters pull back to defend. But this is all less certain than that first half of the prediction.

Or Tyrion doesn't do his job, is further humiliated, and the Iron Bank funds Robb who goes into meth-mode from all the money and gets to King's Landing. Although given the Blackwater episode, I think Robb would be one to die in the invasion.


There are 7 books ( think? and not all finished yet?) ... You're kinda rushing the plot on who will win the war prettttty quickly with like 5 campaigns running around lol. (btw this is no hint, I barely started the first book lol)
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 16:03:10
April 17 2013 02:26 GMT
#13607
Mod Edit: Removed spoilers.

User was warned for this post
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LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 02:33:02
April 17 2013 02:27 GMT
#13608
On April 17 2013 10:59 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 10:44 Beorn1 wrote:
On April 17 2013 10:29 Whitewing wrote:
On April 17 2013 10:04 Beorn1 wrote:
OK i think I figured out what the khaleesi is thinking. Right before the trade scene Selmy says something along the lines of "When men fought for your father they did it out of love." and Jorah is like "Yea but he died." After reading some comments in this thread about sacking the city, I think she will buy the slaves and tell them they are free. So then she can have an army like her father or brother (forgot which one) where they will follow her out of choice.


For the record, Rhaegar is her brother, not father. Her father was the mad king, people didn't really follow him out of love, at least not near the end.



Ah ok. Thanks for the clarification. But people did like her brother right? Or was Selmy bsing her lol.


Well, it seems like it, but I don't think anyone in the show has really talked about Rhaegar at all other than people talking to Dany.

Wait, didn't King Robert talk to Ned about how horrible Rhaegar was at some point? Or am I mis-remembering?

Yeah, Robert Baratheon talks about how Rhaegar took Lyanna Stark away from her and "raped her to death". Aside from Dany scenes and Robert's speech, we don't have much exposition about him nor Lyanna Stark.

I'd take Barristan Selmy's word over Robert Baratheon's though. Ned shook his head when Robert said "she (Lyanna) belonged with me", which makes me think that Lyanna didn't love him back or something. Or maybe Ned just didn't appreciate his sister being married to a macho whoremonger who glorifies killing.
furerkip
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States439 Posts
April 17 2013 02:36 GMT
#13609
On April 17 2013 06:39 rezoacken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
HOLY SHIT HIS FUCKING HAND and the music right after lol. Made me think I downloaded a bad version of the episode. I don't think Jaime will be as handsome after this episode...

Anyways, is it supposed to be implied that Pod didn't actually have sex, and just took the money and ran? I thought Tyrion figured it out, but then he sat Pod down and made me not so sure anymore.


Its implied Pod did have sex. The two possibilities are then:
-the whores didn't take the money because he was too cute
-the whores where paid in advance by Tyrion but to make Pod feel better he made Pod believe the whores genuinely didn't take the money.


The second possibility makes no sense though; why would he want to make Pod feel like he was a god in bed, after already giving him 3 whores?

Also, why would any of the 3 whores deny themselves MORE money, seeing as Pod had no idea he was supposed to take the money back to Tyrion? It's not like Tyrion can just be like "what the fuck, they didn't give me my money back? Let's get those assholes!" It's just more likely he gave him the 3 whores as an actual gift with the money rather than make Pod feel like a monster in bed because the whores gave him his money back even though he isn't.

Also, he has experienced the same feeling from his dad Tywin with that old whore of his; why would he want to put Podrick in the exact same situation he faced and was left with nothing but the medicine of ale and the therapy of whores?
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
April 17 2013 02:55 GMT
#13610
On April 17 2013 11:27 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 10:59 Whitewing wrote:
On April 17 2013 10:44 Beorn1 wrote:
On April 17 2013 10:29 Whitewing wrote:
On April 17 2013 10:04 Beorn1 wrote:
OK i think I figured out what the khaleesi is thinking. Right before the trade scene Selmy says something along the lines of "When men fought for your father they did it out of love." and Jorah is like "Yea but he died." After reading some comments in this thread about sacking the city, I think she will buy the slaves and tell them they are free. So then she can have an army like her father or brother (forgot which one) where they will follow her out of choice.


For the record, Rhaegar is her brother, not father. Her father was the mad king, people didn't really follow him out of love, at least not near the end.



Ah ok. Thanks for the clarification. But people did like her brother right? Or was Selmy bsing her lol.


Well, it seems like it, but I don't think anyone in the show has really talked about Rhaegar at all other than people talking to Dany.

Wait, didn't King Robert talk to Ned about how horrible Rhaegar was at some point? Or am I mis-remembering?

Yeah, Robert Baratheon talks about how Rhaegar took Lyanna Stark away from her and "raped her to death". Aside from Dany scenes and Robert's speech, we don't have much exposition about him nor Lyanna Stark.

I'd take Barristan Selmy's word over Robert Baratheon's though. Ned shook his head when Robert said "she (Lyanna) belonged with me", which makes me think that Lyanna didn't love him back or something. Or maybe Ned just didn't appreciate his sister being married to a macho whoremonger who glorifies killing.


I think you misunderstood that scene. He was referring to Lyanna being buried under Winterfell, Robert wanted her buried in King's Landing where he was. There was no anger or hatred between those two. Rhaegar seems like he was a great and valiant man, but with a dark side.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
April 17 2013 03:03 GMT
#13611
On April 17 2013 11:55 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 11:27 LoLAdriankat wrote:
On April 17 2013 10:59 Whitewing wrote:
On April 17 2013 10:44 Beorn1 wrote:
On April 17 2013 10:29 Whitewing wrote:
On April 17 2013 10:04 Beorn1 wrote:
OK i think I figured out what the khaleesi is thinking. Right before the trade scene Selmy says something along the lines of "When men fought for your father they did it out of love." and Jorah is like "Yea but he died." After reading some comments in this thread about sacking the city, I think she will buy the slaves and tell them they are free. So then she can have an army like her father or brother (forgot which one) where they will follow her out of choice.


For the record, Rhaegar is her brother, not father. Her father was the mad king, people didn't really follow him out of love, at least not near the end.



Ah ok. Thanks for the clarification. But people did like her brother right? Or was Selmy bsing her lol.


Well, it seems like it, but I don't think anyone in the show has really talked about Rhaegar at all other than people talking to Dany.

Wait, didn't King Robert talk to Ned about how horrible Rhaegar was at some point? Or am I mis-remembering?

Yeah, Robert Baratheon talks about how Rhaegar took Lyanna Stark away from her and "raped her to death". Aside from Dany scenes and Robert's speech, we don't have much exposition about him nor Lyanna Stark.

I'd take Barristan Selmy's word over Robert Baratheon's though. Ned shook his head when Robert said "she (Lyanna) belonged with me", which makes me think that Lyanna didn't love him back or something. Or maybe Ned just didn't appreciate his sister being married to a macho whoremonger who glorifies killing.


I think you misunderstood that scene. He was referring to Lyanna being buried under Winterfell, Robert wanted her buried in King's Landing where he was. There was no anger or hatred between those two. Rhaegar seems like he was a great and valiant man, but with a dark side.

Yeah, you're probably right or it's a double meaning thing.

Rumor has it that the show was renewed for two season and a movie (source: http://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/1chqzn/a_family_member_works_with_the_game_of_thrones_tv/).
I hope the movie is about the Rebellion. I just want to see what the hell happened with Rhaegar and everyone. He seems like such an important character (his kidnapping of Lyanna basically started the whole story) and yet we don't hear much about him.
gracy123
Profile Joined April 2013
England7 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 12:58:04
April 17 2013 03:14 GMT
#13612
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
April 17 2013 05:22 GMT
#13613
On April 17 2013 12:03 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 11:55 Whitewing wrote:
On April 17 2013 11:27 LoLAdriankat wrote:
On April 17 2013 10:59 Whitewing wrote:
On April 17 2013 10:44 Beorn1 wrote:
On April 17 2013 10:29 Whitewing wrote:
On April 17 2013 10:04 Beorn1 wrote:
OK i think I figured out what the khaleesi is thinking. Right before the trade scene Selmy says something along the lines of "When men fought for your father they did it out of love." and Jorah is like "Yea but he died." After reading some comments in this thread about sacking the city, I think she will buy the slaves and tell them they are free. So then she can have an army like her father or brother (forgot which one) where they will follow her out of choice.


For the record, Rhaegar is her brother, not father. Her father was the mad king, people didn't really follow him out of love, at least not near the end.



Ah ok. Thanks for the clarification. But people did like her brother right? Or was Selmy bsing her lol.


Well, it seems like it, but I don't think anyone in the show has really talked about Rhaegar at all other than people talking to Dany.

Wait, didn't King Robert talk to Ned about how horrible Rhaegar was at some point? Or am I mis-remembering?

Yeah, Robert Baratheon talks about how Rhaegar took Lyanna Stark away from her and "raped her to death". Aside from Dany scenes and Robert's speech, we don't have much exposition about him nor Lyanna Stark.

I'd take Barristan Selmy's word over Robert Baratheon's though. Ned shook his head when Robert said "she (Lyanna) belonged with me", which makes me think that Lyanna didn't love him back or something. Or maybe Ned just didn't appreciate his sister being married to a macho whoremonger who glorifies killing.


I think you misunderstood that scene. He was referring to Lyanna being buried under Winterfell, Robert wanted her buried in King's Landing where he was. There was no anger or hatred between those two. Rhaegar seems like he was a great and valiant man, but with a dark side.

Yeah, you're probably right or it's a double meaning thing.

Rumor has it that the show was renewed for two season and a movie (source: http://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/1chqzn/a_family_member_works_with_the_game_of_thrones_tv/).
I hope the movie is about the Rebellion. I just want to see what the hell happened with Rhaegar and everyone. He seems like such an important character (his kidnapping of Lyanna basically started the whole story) and yet we don't hear much about him.
Most def. would make a good movie, downside is that you'd have to recast most everyone, like Ned Stark and Robert. There just too old. But I definitely want to see Raeghar given how everyone seems to adore the guy. I doubt he actually raped Lyanna given how they talk about him, he probably just [stupidly] decided to run off with her, and Robert interpreted it as a kidnapping.
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
April 17 2013 06:00 GMT
#13614
On April 17 2013 12:14 gracy123 wrote:
I'm pretty sad about Tyrion getting appointed as finance minister, because it's furthering the fact that out of my favorite two characters, him and Robb (Bronn is a close third), someone's about to get fucked.

Either Tyrion does his job, and does it well, which means the Lannisters get money and now they can just extend the conflict until Robb's men run out of resources and retreat. And then Tyrion is either shafted by his dad or he's running for his life, because every time he does something right it seems to happen to him.

And then Robb dies, and Winterfell is Lannister turf until Dany, Stannis, or someone else decides they want to be King and make the Lannisters pull back to defend. But this is all less certain than that first half of the prediction.

Or Tyrion doesn't do his job, is further humiliated, and the Iron Bank funds Robb who goes into meth-mode from all the money and gets to King's Landing. Although given the Blackwater episode, I think Robb would be one to die in the invasion.

On April 17 2013 11:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm pretty sad about Tyrion getting appointed as finance minister, because it's furthering the fact that out of my favorite two characters, him and Robb (Bronn is a close third), someone's about to get fucked.

Either Tyrion does his job, and does it well, which means the Lannisters get money and now they can just extend the conflict until Robb's men run out of resources and retreat. And then Tyrion is either shafted by his dad or he's running for his life, because every time he does something right it seems to happen to him.

And then Robb dies, and Winterfell is Lannister turf until Dany, Stannis, or someone else decides they want to be King and make the Lannisters pull back to defend. But this is all less certain than that first half of the prediction.

Or Tyrion doesn't do his job, is further humiliated, and the Iron Bank funds Robb who goes into meth-mode from all the money and gets to King's Landing. Although given the Blackwater episode, I think Robb would be one to die in the invasion.

So how do you guys know each other?
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
April 17 2013 06:04 GMT
#13615
Dat hand chop, I was NOT expecting that at all. Such an excellent ending to the episode.
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
April 17 2013 06:11 GMT
#13616
On April 17 2013 15:00 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 12:14 gracy123 wrote:
I'm pretty sad about Tyrion getting appointed as finance minister, because it's furthering the fact that out of my favorite two characters, him and Robb (Bronn is a close third), someone's about to get fucked.

Either Tyrion does his job, and does it well, which means the Lannisters get money and now they can just extend the conflict until Robb's men run out of resources and retreat. And then Tyrion is either shafted by his dad or he's running for his life, because every time he does something right it seems to happen to him.

And then Robb dies, and Winterfell is Lannister turf until Dany, Stannis, or someone else decides they want to be King and make the Lannisters pull back to defend. But this is all less certain than that first half of the prediction.

Or Tyrion doesn't do his job, is further humiliated, and the Iron Bank funds Robb who goes into meth-mode from all the money and gets to King's Landing. Although given the Blackwater episode, I think Robb would be one to die in the invasion.

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 11:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm pretty sad about Tyrion getting appointed as finance minister, because it's furthering the fact that out of my favorite two characters, him and Robb (Bronn is a close third), someone's about to get fucked.

Either Tyrion does his job, and does it well, which means the Lannisters get money and now they can just extend the conflict until Robb's men run out of resources and retreat. And then Tyrion is either shafted by his dad or he's running for his life, because every time he does something right it seems to happen to him.

And then Robb dies, and Winterfell is Lannister turf until Dany, Stannis, or someone else decides they want to be King and make the Lannisters pull back to defend. But this is all less certain than that first half of the prediction.

Or Tyrion doesn't do his job, is further humiliated, and the Iron Bank funds Robb who goes into meth-mode from all the money and gets to King's Landing. Although given the Blackwater episode, I think Robb would be one to die in the invasion.

So how do you guys know each other?


What a dramatic event in a thread about a dramatic television show.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
April 17 2013 06:13 GMT
#13617
On April 17 2013 15:00 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 12:14 gracy123 wrote:
I'm pretty sad about Tyrion getting appointed as finance minister, because it's furthering the fact that out of my favorite two characters, him and Robb (Bronn is a close third), someone's about to get fucked.

Either Tyrion does his job, and does it well, which means the Lannisters get money and now they can just extend the conflict until Robb's men run out of resources and retreat. And then Tyrion is either shafted by his dad or he's running for his life, because every time he does something right it seems to happen to him.

And then Robb dies, and Winterfell is Lannister turf until Dany, Stannis, or someone else decides they want to be King and make the Lannisters pull back to defend. But this is all less certain than that first half of the prediction.

Or Tyrion doesn't do his job, is further humiliated, and the Iron Bank funds Robb who goes into meth-mode from all the money and gets to King's Landing. Although given the Blackwater episode, I think Robb would be one to die in the invasion.

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 11:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm pretty sad about Tyrion getting appointed as finance minister, because it's furthering the fact that out of my favorite two characters, him and Robb (Bronn is a close third), someone's about to get fucked.

Either Tyrion does his job, and does it well, which means the Lannisters get money and now they can just extend the conflict until Robb's men run out of resources and retreat. And then Tyrion is either shafted by his dad or he's running for his life, because every time he does something right it seems to happen to him.

And then Robb dies, and Winterfell is Lannister turf until Dany, Stannis, or someone else decides they want to be King and make the Lannisters pull back to defend. But this is all less certain than that first half of the prediction.

Or Tyrion doesn't do his job, is further humiliated, and the Iron Bank funds Robb who goes into meth-mode from all the money and gets to King's Landing. Although given the Blackwater episode, I think Robb would be one to die in the invasion.

So how do you guys know each other?


What do you mean? As Valar Morghulis is spoken from Westeros to Astapor,


I'm pretty sad about Tyrion getting appointed as finance minister, because it's furthering the fact that out of my favorite two characters, him and Robb (Bronn is a close third), someone's about to get fucked.

Either Tyrion does his job, and does it well, which means the Lannisters get money and now they can just extend the conflict until Robb's men run out of resources and retreat. And then Tyrion is either shafted by his dad or he's running for his life, because every time he does something right it seems to happen to him.

And then Robb dies, and Winterfell is Lannister turf until Dany, Stannis, or someone else decides they want to be King and make the Lannisters pull back to defend. But this is all less certain than that first half of the prediction.

Or Tyrion doesn't do his job, is further humiliated, and the Iron Bank funds Robb who goes into meth-mode from all the money and gets to King's Landing. Although given the Blackwater episode, I think Robb would be one to die in the invasion.


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plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
April 17 2013 06:14 GMT
#13618
On April 17 2013 15:13 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 15:00 zatic wrote:
On April 17 2013 12:14 gracy123 wrote:
I'm pretty sad about Tyrion getting appointed as finance minister, because it's furthering the fact that out of my favorite two characters, him and Robb (Bronn is a close third), someone's about to get fucked.

Either Tyrion does his job, and does it well, which means the Lannisters get money and now they can just extend the conflict until Robb's men run out of resources and retreat. And then Tyrion is either shafted by his dad or he's running for his life, because every time he does something right it seems to happen to him.

And then Robb dies, and Winterfell is Lannister turf until Dany, Stannis, or someone else decides they want to be King and make the Lannisters pull back to defend. But this is all less certain than that first half of the prediction.

Or Tyrion doesn't do his job, is further humiliated, and the Iron Bank funds Robb who goes into meth-mode from all the money and gets to King's Landing. Although given the Blackwater episode, I think Robb would be one to die in the invasion.

On April 17 2013 11:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm pretty sad about Tyrion getting appointed as finance minister, because it's furthering the fact that out of my favorite two characters, him and Robb (Bronn is a close third), someone's about to get fucked.

Either Tyrion does his job, and does it well, which means the Lannisters get money and now they can just extend the conflict until Robb's men run out of resources and retreat. And then Tyrion is either shafted by his dad or he's running for his life, because every time he does something right it seems to happen to him.

And then Robb dies, and Winterfell is Lannister turf until Dany, Stannis, or someone else decides they want to be King and make the Lannisters pull back to defend. But this is all less certain than that first half of the prediction.

Or Tyrion doesn't do his job, is further humiliated, and the Iron Bank funds Robb who goes into meth-mode from all the money and gets to King's Landing. Although given the Blackwater episode, I think Robb would be one to die in the invasion.

So how do you guys know each other?


What do you mean? As Valar Morghulis is spoken from Westeros to Astapor,

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I'm pretty sad about Tyrion getting appointed as finance minister, because it's furthering the fact that out of my favorite two characters, him and Robb (Bronn is a close third), someone's about to get fucked.

Either Tyrion does his job, and does it well, which means the Lannisters get money and now they can just extend the conflict until Robb's men run out of resources and retreat. And then Tyrion is either shafted by his dad or he's running for his life, because every time he does something right it seems to happen to him.

And then Robb dies, and Winterfell is Lannister turf until Dany, Stannis, or someone else decides they want to be King and make the Lannisters pull back to defend. But this is all less certain than that first half of the prediction.

Or Tyrion doesn't do his job, is further humiliated, and the Iron Bank funds Robb who goes into meth-mode from all the money and gets to King's Landing. Although given the Blackwater episode, I think Robb would be one to die in the invasion.


Is spoken from New York to Sydney.


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Craze
Profile Joined July 2010
United States561 Posts
April 17 2013 06:54 GMT
#13619
On April 17 2013 11:55 Whitewing wrote:
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On April 17 2013 11:27 LoLAdriankat wrote:
On April 17 2013 10:59 Whitewing wrote:
On April 17 2013 10:44 Beorn1 wrote:
On April 17 2013 10:29 Whitewing wrote:
On April 17 2013 10:04 Beorn1 wrote:
OK i think I figured out what the khaleesi is thinking. Right before the trade scene Selmy says something along the lines of "When men fought for your father they did it out of love." and Jorah is like "Yea but he died." After reading some comments in this thread about sacking the city, I think she will buy the slaves and tell them they are free. So then she can have an army like her father or brother (forgot which one) where they will follow her out of choice.


For the record, Rhaegar is her brother, not father. Her father was the mad king, people didn't really follow him out of love, at least not near the end.



Ah ok. Thanks for the clarification. But people did like her brother right? Or was Selmy bsing her lol.


Well, it seems like it, but I don't think anyone in the show has really talked about Rhaegar at all other than people talking to Dany.

Wait, didn't King Robert talk to Ned about how horrible Rhaegar was at some point? Or am I mis-remembering?

Yeah, Robert Baratheon talks about how Rhaegar took Lyanna Stark away from her and "raped her to death". Aside from Dany scenes and Robert's speech, we don't have much exposition about him nor Lyanna Stark.

I'd take Barristan Selmy's word over Robert Baratheon's though. Ned shook his head when Robert said "she (Lyanna) belonged with me", which makes me think that Lyanna didn't love him back or something. Or maybe Ned just didn't appreciate his sister being married to a macho whoremonger who glorifies killing.


I think you misunderstood that scene. He was referring to Lyanna being buried under Winterfell, Robert wanted her buried in King's Landing where he was. There was no anger or hatred between those two. Rhaegar seems like he was a great and valiant man, but with a dark side.


The season 1 and 2 dvd extras explain this more, and I think it is littered throughout the show. Rhaegar "abducted" Lyanna, but one of the videos shows them riding off together from behind and she looks to be holding his waist. It could be another case of Robert remembering his past with rose colored lenses. The videos are all over youtube as "History and Lore of Westeros", voiced by cast members of the various houses - they're pretty cool if people haven't seen them.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
April 17 2013 07:03 GMT
#13620
On April 17 2013 15:00 zatic wrote:
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On April 17 2013 12:14 gracy123 wrote:
I'm pretty sad about Tyrion getting appointed as finance minister, because it's furthering the fact that out of my favorite two characters, him and Robb (Bronn is a close third), someone's about to get fucked.

Either Tyrion does his job, and does it well, which means the Lannisters get money and now they can just extend the conflict until Robb's men run out of resources and retreat. And then Tyrion is either shafted by his dad or he's running for his life, because every time he does something right it seems to happen to him.

And then Robb dies, and Winterfell is Lannister turf until Dany, Stannis, or someone else decides they want to be King and make the Lannisters pull back to defend. But this is all less certain than that first half of the prediction.

Or Tyrion doesn't do his job, is further humiliated, and the Iron Bank funds Robb who goes into meth-mode from all the money and gets to King's Landing. Although given the Blackwater episode, I think Robb would be one to die in the invasion.

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On April 17 2013 11:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm pretty sad about Tyrion getting appointed as finance minister, because it's furthering the fact that out of my favorite two characters, him and Robb (Bronn is a close third), someone's about to get fucked.

Either Tyrion does his job, and does it well, which means the Lannisters get money and now they can just extend the conflict until Robb's men run out of resources and retreat. And then Tyrion is either shafted by his dad or he's running for his life, because every time he does something right it seems to happen to him.

And then Robb dies, and Winterfell is Lannister turf until Dany, Stannis, or someone else decides they want to be King and make the Lannisters pull back to defend. But this is all less certain than that first half of the prediction.

Or Tyrion doesn't do his job, is further humiliated, and the Iron Bank funds Robb who goes into meth-mode from all the money and gets to King's Landing. Although given the Blackwater episode, I think Robb would be one to die in the invasion.

So how do you guys know each other?


I wonder if they had some great discussions together in the past :D
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