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Westy
England808 Posts
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Dgtl
Canada889 Posts
On June 06 2012 12:45 Euronyme wrote: Yup, I have to admit I pirate it. In Sweden it's run on a pay channel that's complete crap (there's no HBO channel) and it's currently on season 2 episode 6... You can also watch it on national television (free, no commercials) which only got a deal with HBO just recently, so they're still on season 1. Sadly not gonna happen as I'm the kind of person who wakes up early at 5AM and wait for it to be available. Wouldn't mind paying for it, but fuck they need to deliver in that case, and I don't want to buy a new TV channel for a year to watch 10 episodes. Piracy is sadly the only option that delivers to it's customers. Sorry for derailing, but I had an impulse to defend pirates =/ Your point is valid. It is much, much easier to pirate Game of Thrones then pay for it. This is without taking the extra cost that you have to pay to not pirate it into consideration. People are willing to pay for Game of Thrones, but the current system for doing so is just horrible! | ||
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Poyo
Canada790 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10751 Posts
On June 06 2012 12:53 Dgtl wrote: Your point is valid. It is much, much easier to pirate Game of Thrones then pay for it. This is without taking the extra cost that you have to pay to not pirate it into consideration. People are willing to pay for Game of Thrones, but the current system for doing so is just horrible! Thast the problem with the whole movie/music-industry... Somehow pirating is cheaper, easyer and faster than purchasing their products. And thats why i don't see anything wrong with that industry going up in flames.. Their business model is just not sustainable anymore... I would gladly pay, but not as long as it's harder to do so than pirating it... | ||
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0x64
Finland4567 Posts
TV people are really incompetent and slow to react. Sell the right to live publication of the episodes outside the USA and make 10x more. They are scared of losing deals selling other shows which is bullshit. The shows are bought based on their quality. It's been 10 years and still no reaction. Music industry started to react 5 years ealier and we know how slow they are. | ||
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
Take it out of here now. | ||
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Angryhorse
Sweden387 Posts
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Soan
New Zealand194 Posts
On June 06 2012 12:53 Dgtl wrote: Your point is valid. It is much, much easier to pirate Game of Thrones then pay for it. This is without taking the extra cost that you have to pay to not pirate it into consideration. People are willing to pay for Game of Thrones, but the current system for doing so is just horrible! That's why I plan on buying the DVDs. I don't have S1 yet, but I've got other priorities for my money at the moment. Here in NZ, they're currently airing S2 about 2 weeks behind the US, but it's on a pay channel I don't have access too, and I'm not willing to pay however much it is just to watch 10 episodes of one show. | ||
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Mentalizor
Denmark1596 Posts
On June 06 2012 18:14 Soan wrote: That's why I plan on buying the DVDs. I don't have S1 yet, but I've got other priorities for my money at the moment. Here in NZ, they're currently airing S2 about 2 weeks behind the US, but it's on a pay channel I don't have access too, and I'm not willing to pay however much it is just to watch 10 episodes of one show. My brother bought S1 on BluRay. He never saw a single episode nor read the books. I just told him it was a good show and he bought the BluRay. Unlike him I can't afford to do that - but everything he sees - he buys. ...but in those regards I'd might aswell be a somalian... *yohoho* | ||
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Emon_
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Poll: Favorite part of Season 2 Tyrion & Varys the politics and scheming (36) Arya & Hot Pie, a road less traveled (21) Stannis & Renly - the war against Lannister (13) Jon Snow and travels beyond the wall (11) Daenerys, new khalasars, dragons and magic (9) Robb & Theon, the struggles of the north (8) 98 total votes Your vote: Favorite part of Season 2 (Vote): Daenerys, new khalasars, dragons and magic | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On June 06 2012 11:01 LuisArcadia wrote: I happened a lot during the Crusades, for example. Like the Siege of Zara: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Zara. This has literally nothing to do with people sacking their own capital, it was the Crusaders trying to obtain boats and siding with Venice in their conflict against Zara to do so. Such things did not happen during the crusades, period (how can that even ocurr when troops are abroad?). What happened is that there were numerous factions progressing together towards the Holy Land, and division rose among them while they took what they wanted along the way. It was a chaotic situation indeed and this is why no punishment was to be expected. In this case, the bastard's men simply comitted suicide if they did sack Winterfell, because the word will necessarily spread. The minute Robb's army heads back north, they lose their heads. While looting and pillaging was very common at such times, it's a complete different thing to sack the castle of your own lord unless he doesn't have power over them anymore (which is not the case). Did the Franks ever sack Paris while the king was in the South of France? Exactly. | ||
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Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
On June 06 2012 12:45 Euronyme wrote: Where I live I can get the HBO TV channel, but firstly, I'm not going to pay for a channel just to watch one show and secondly, it's on the TV, not my pc. I want to watch whenever I want, not when the channel operators think it's a good time to air.Yup, I have to admit I pirate it. In Sweden it's run on a pay channel that's complete crap (there's no HBO channel) and it's currently on season 2 episode 6... You can also watch it on national television (free, no commercials) which only got a deal with HBO just recently, so they're still on season 1. Sadly not gonna happen as I'm the kind of person who wakes up early at 5AM and wait for it to be available. Wouldn't mind paying for it, but fuck they need to deliver in that case, and I don't want to buy a new TV channel for a year to watch 10 episodes. Piracy is sadly the only option that delivers to it's customers. Sorry for derailing, but I had an impulse to defend pirates =/ Pirating is my only option as the HBOgo site is only available outside of the US (as usual.... it's like they don't want my money). I'll probably buy the DVD's to pay them (if I can even remember that by the fucking time they come out which most likely will be in a few years...). | ||
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raf3776
United States1904 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15345 Posts
On June 06 2012 22:58 raf3776 wrote: When the city got burned to the ground. I wanna know how the maester? (The old man that got stabbed) got out the city. I think he was out the city, if im wrong tell me. He was still inside the city, even the castle. The park with the pools is the Godswood, a place where the old gods of the north are being worshiped. | ||
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Emix_Squall
France705 Posts
On June 06 2012 10:15 mskaa wrote: Am i the only one completely baffled about the burning of winterfell? It was my understanding that the greyjoy guys would just give the 500 stark followers Theon and that would be it, no fighting.. Then, skip to Bran and co coming out of hiding and the whole castle is burning and theres no trace of the 500 men that came to save them? What the hell? Are we gonna get some sort of flashback or something to explain this in the next season? I = CONFUSED otherwise - awesome, awesome, awesome show Here's what happened IMO: Theon does his speech and gets knocked out by his man. From there, we know that people from the Iron Islands would rather pay the Iron Price than the Gold Price. They're not the kind of men that would give Theon to Robb's troupes parked outside Winterfell. From the feeling I got of the Iron Islanders during this whole season, they appeared to me a bit as a pirate nation. Of course they are one of the Seven Kingdoms, are legit etc, but in the way the behave, they are ruthless warriors of the sea that wouldn't hesitate to raid and pillage fishermen towns if it can bring them any good. There's no reason for them not to do the same here. Theon wouldn't have sacked and pillaged Winterfell or given the order to do it because he respects that place too much, but his men, like we were told earlier in the show, are the worst of the worst you can find amongst the Iron Islands' soldiers. I'm pretty sure they would have been fine pillaging the castle in the first place if it wasn't for Theon. IMO, they knocked out Theon to be able to run from this place (they're ruthless warriors but not stupid enough to engage a lost fight that means nothing to them all, only to their "leader" that they don't even respect that much), but since they had nothing preventing them from doing so, they sacked and pillaged Winterfell on their way out. I read somewhere that someone was arguing the people of Winterfell should have been able to deal with those 20 soldiers, but if that was the case, Winterfell wouldn't have been taken in the first place. Fact is that a "trained" warrior, swinging a great-sword while having a murderous look on his face is far superior to 10 peasants with no equipment and no organization (10vs1 they might win but it's more likely going to me 2vs1 than 1vs1 than another 1vs1 and 2vs1 another 1vs1 etc etc etc ...) | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On June 06 2012 23:32 Emix_Squall wrote: Here's what happened IMO: Theon does his speech and gets knocked out by his man. From there, we know that people from the Iron Islands would rather pay the Iron Price than the Gold Price. They're not the kind of men that would give Theon to Robb's troupes parked outside Winterfell. From the feeling I got of the Iron Islanders during this whole season, they appeared to me a bit as a pirate nation. Of course they are one of the Seven Kingdoms, are legit etc, but in the way the behave, they are ruthless warriors of the sea that wouldn't hesitate to raid and pillage fishermen towns if it can bring them any good. There's no reason for them not to do the same here. Theon wouldn't have sacked and pillaged Winterfell or given the order to do it because he respects that place too much, but his men, like we were told earlier in the show, are the worst of the worst you can find amongst the Iron Islands' soldiers. I'm pretty sure they would have been fine pillaging the castle in the first place if it wasn't for Theon. IMO, they knocked out Theon to be able to run from this place (they're ruthless warriors but not stupid enough to engage a lost fight that means nothing to them all, only to their "leader" that they don't even respect that much), but since they had nothing preventing them from doing so, they sacked and pillaged Winterfell on their way out. I read somewhere that someone was arguing the people of Winterfell should have been able to deal with those 20 soldiers, but if that was the case, Winterfell wouldn't have been taken in the first place. Fact is that a "trained" warrior, swinging a great-sword while having a murderous look on his face is far superior to 10 peasants with no equipment and no organization (10vs1 they might win but it's more likely going to me 2vs1 than 1vs1 than another 1vs1 and 2vs1 another 1vs1 etc etc etc ...) What way out? Out were 500 men. They would not let them live if they first pillaged Winterfell. The deal Robb offered was Theon for your lives, not Theon+pillage for your lives. And if they were going out there to die anyways there is no reason to knock Theon out when he wanted to do the same. | ||
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bailando
Germany332 Posts
i wonder why they didnt kill him. | ||
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oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
On June 07 2012 00:44 bailando wrote: btw the rock where sam is dissapeared when the camera got out. i wonder why they didnt kill him. i tought the rock get lost in the fog, i should watch it again ^^ I think they kept him alive because they want witnesses, they want fear to grow inside every man in the wall. I think that's why they don't kill him, and the guy in S1x01 | ||
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KainiT
Austria392 Posts
On June 06 2012 16:19 0x64 wrote: You have a TV show with Lannisters, you are sitting on a pile of gold! TV people are really incompetent and slow to react. Sell the right to live publication of the episodes outside the USA and make 10x more. They are scared of losing deals selling other shows which is bullshit. The shows are bought based on their quality. It's been 10 years and still no reaction. Music industry started to react 5 years ealier and we know how slow they are. it's not like the production company can decide that, HBO ordered the show and has all rights on it, I am not that sure what you wanted to say but if you meant, that they shouldn't only sell to HBO your statement makes no sense cause HBO bought all rights before the series was even produced | ||
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