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On May 29 2012 12:11 Antisocialmunky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 11:52 FeedMe wrote:On May 29 2012 10:11 Cel.erity wrote:On May 29 2012 08:31 Phyxx wrote: Am I the only one who is wondering about why Tyrion was attacked by one of the kingsguard (Ser Meryn if I am not mistaken)? I don't think there's any way Tyrion can be dead, I mean come on. They never showed him actually dying, and even in the books I imagine he's a big fan favorite. All of my common sense from watching TV shows/movies for the last 30 years tells me that they wouldn't kill him off this way. just like ned stark! Tyrion wasn't played by Sean Bean. Sean Bean dies in like pretty much everything he's in I think. NSFW, violent/spoilers: + Show Spoiler +
This has given me a lot to think about. Thank you.
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On May 29 2012 12:17 Arkless wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 12:12 Cel.erity wrote:On May 29 2012 11:52 FeedMe wrote:On May 29 2012 10:11 Cel.erity wrote:On May 29 2012 08:31 Phyxx wrote: Am I the only one who is wondering about why Tyrion was attacked by one of the kingsguard (Ser Meryn if I am not mistaken)? I don't think there's any way Tyrion can be dead, I mean come on. They never showed him actually dying, and even in the books I imagine he's a big fan favorite. All of my common sense from watching TV shows/movies for the last 30 years tells me that they wouldn't kill him off this way. just like ned stark! No...Ned Stark died in a very dramatic scene where his head was chopped off. Tyrion was ambiguously left lying on the ground. There's a big difference. Pretty sure cersei sent meryn to kill tyrion. But he aint dead guys. I'd put my money on Joffrey giving that order. It seems like the sort of stupid vindictive thing he'd do and Tyrion's always putting him down. Cersei hates Tyrion but at least knew their survival hinged on his defence of the city.
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Was the song played at the credits a song from the books?
Bronn was singing this song at the inn with the whore on his lap and his men around him. Rains of Castermere i believe. I think its a song from the book, but for some reason my mind thinks its a song from LotR for some reason :S
Edit: From a wiki of ice and fire The Rains of Castamere was a song written about Lord Tywin Lannister's crushing victory over rebellious House Reyne of Castamere and the destruction of the House at the end of their rebellion.
And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low? Only a cat of a different coat, that's all the truth I know. In a coat of gold or a coat of red, a lion still has claws, And mine are long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours. And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that lord of Castamere, But now the rains weep o'er his hall, with no one there to hear. Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall, and not a soul to hear.[1]
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To be honest, from the books I thought the song was sung cheerfully. But this sad rendition is pretty badass.
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On May 29 2012 15:45 BlindKill wrote: To be honest, from the books I thought the song was sung cheerfully. But this sad rendition is pretty badass.
I don't think "The National" does cheerful.
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Wait so, the Tyrells allied with the Lannisters? When did that happen? Whaaaaaaat?
P.S. such a great fucking episode holy shit wow
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On May 28 2012 22:58 Mambo wrote: I want Tyrion to win, but i want the Lanisters to loose... With regards to wants: Tywin or Tyrion as king — Cercei and Joffrey dead — Jaimie exiled or gone on some sort of adventure. Considering they're a ridiculously dysfunctional family who seem to both care and dislike each other, I doubt any of them would intentionally let any of that happen. I just don't see it being physically possible that a family could develop in such a way to as they are now considering how relatively close they have seemed to have been (even if they have disdain for each other sometimes). They're just all over the wall with regards to intelligence, morals, mindsets, etc.
On May 29 2012 18:09 youngminii wrote: Wait so, the Tyrells allied with the Lannisters? When did that happen? Whaaaaaaat? edit: Removed statement about thinking Loras was leading Renly's Baratheons and allying with Lannisters. I think that was just my own imagination/interpretation going on and lack of understanding of the situation.
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On May 29 2012 18:09 youngminii wrote: Wait so, the Tyrells allied with the Lannisters? When did that happen? Whaaaaaaat?
Extremely disappointed myself by this development,
anyone else feels like the joining of the 2 wealthiest houses in Westeros makes for an unfair (read: bad plot) fight?
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On May 29 2012 03:39 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 03:00 rastaban wrote: There is a comment about Varys "knowing all the boys names" by Tyrion. It seems like it might be a reference to him being a possible pedophile but I would assume being a eunuch that it might mean something else. I thought it might be because he knows everything going on so of course he knows the names of all the boys serving but that seems pretty tame.
My wife thought there were other references earlier to this but I don't remember them. Any one else have any insight into that exchange? in S1 Littlefinger also suggests that Varrys uses little boys for sexual pleasures, we don't know if it's true or not, but we do know he had "little birds" everywhere, who are mostly young children. Didn't Illryio make an vague request in season 1 when he and Varys were talking in the dungeon that sort of insinuated Varys was in the business of selling these children for whatever means others saw fit (be it sexual / espionage / slave labor / etc)?
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On May 29 2012 06:08 Ikonic wrote: No John in that episode ! Im really curious what is going to happen to him (:
No Jon No Theon No Arya No Brann or Hodor And only marginally slipping in Tywin...
Oh... And no Robb nor Lady Talisa
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On May 29 2012 18:24 constantine wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 18:09 youngminii wrote: Wait so, the Tyrells allied with the Lannisters? When did that happen? Whaaaaaaat?
Extremely disappointed myself by this development, anyone else feels like the joining of the 2 wealthiest houses in Westeros makes for an unfair (read: bad plot) fight?
Having more money (Lannisters) and more food (Tyrells - well, I realize they're also quite rich) doesn't make you win wars if you're outnumbered, outgunned or just have no more allies while the noose is tightening. I can see why they would ally. They're both from the west of Westeros. Better be allies - if the Tyrells went all Pyke on them and took Casterly Rock while the Lannisters were fighting to keep King's Landing, I would've thought it was a bit disappointing. I wouldn't want the Lannisters to be defeated by anyone but Robb... Or maybe Arya or Tyrion somehow throwing the Lannisters off the throne by some scheme.
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On May 29 2012 18:16 Xapti wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 22:58 Mambo wrote: I want Tyrion to win, but i want the Lanisters to loose... With regards to wants: Tywin or Tyrion as king — Cercei and Joffrey dead — Jaimie exiled or gone on some sort of adventure. Considering they're a ridiculously dysfunctional family who seem to both care and dislike each other, I doubt any of them would intentionally let any of that happen. I just don't see it being physically possible that a family could develop in such a way to as they are now considering how relatively close they have seemed to have been (even if they have disdain for each other sometimes). They're just all over the wall with regards to intelligence, morals, mindsets, etc. Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 18:09 youngminii wrote: Wait so, the Tyrells allied with the Lannisters? When did that happen? Whaaaaaaat?
P.S. such a great fucking episode holy shit wow I don't think house Tyrell has anything to do with it so to speak (aside from Loras being the leader?) but maybe I'm wrong. It's Renly's faction of the house Baratheon that's sided with the Lannisters. It's not even that strange considering another faction of the Baratheons were already sided with them Show nested quote + The Game of Thrones wiki: When the War of the Five Kings began following King Robert Baratheon's death, House Baratheon became divided into three distinct factions: one led by Robert's son, Joffrey; one led by his younger brother, Stannis; and one led by his youngest brother, Renly.
Wait okay so House Tyrell sided with Renly with his + that cute chick's marriage, so when did Renly's faction side with the Lannisters? And why? I mean, if Stannis is the last Baratheon left, wouldn't they want to side with him?
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On May 29 2012 18:16 Xapti wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 22:58 Mambo wrote: I want Tyrion to win, but i want the Lanisters to loose... With regards to wants: Tywin or Tyrion as king — Cercei and Joffrey dead — Jaimie exiled or gone on some sort of adventure. Considering they're a ridiculously dysfunctional family who seem to both care and dislike each other, I doubt any of them would intentionally let any of that happen. I just don't see it being physically possible that a family could develop in such a way to as they are now considering how relatively close they have seemed to have been (even if they have disdain for each other sometimes). They're just all over the wall with regards to intelligence, morals, mindsets, etc. Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 18:09 youngminii wrote: Wait so, the Tyrells allied with the Lannisters? When did that happen? Whaaaaaaat?
P.S. such a great fucking episode holy shit wow I don't think house Tyrell has anything to do with it so to speak (aside from Loras being the leader?) but maybe I'm wrong. It's Renly's faction of the house Baratheon that's sided with the Lannisters. It's not even that strange considering another faction of the Baratheons were already sided with them Show nested quote + The Game of Thrones wiki: When the War of the Five Kings began following King Robert Baratheon's death, House Baratheon became divided into three distinct factions: one led by Robert's son, Joffrey; one led by his younger brother, Stannis; and one led by his youngest brother, Renly.
Renly was Stannis brother who planned on killing Joffrey and giving the North to Rob. No Baratheon apart from dead king Robert liked/was in debt to the Lannisters. Even King Robert seemed to like them much though. The Tyrell guy (he's the guy who slept with Renly right?) is pissed at Stannis for killing his boyfriend, but has no reason to hate Lannisters, so that's why he's helping them out.
On May 29 2012 18:43 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 18:16 Xapti wrote:On May 28 2012 22:58 Mambo wrote: I want Tyrion to win, but i want the Lanisters to loose... With regards to wants: Tywin or Tyrion as king — Cercei and Joffrey dead — Jaimie exiled or gone on some sort of adventure. Considering they're a ridiculously dysfunctional family who seem to both care and dislike each other, I doubt any of them would intentionally let any of that happen. I just don't see it being physically possible that a family could develop in such a way to as they are now considering how relatively close they have seemed to have been (even if they have disdain for each other sometimes). They're just all over the wall with regards to intelligence, morals, mindsets, etc. On May 29 2012 18:09 youngminii wrote: Wait so, the Tyrells allied with the Lannisters? When did that happen? Whaaaaaaat?
P.S. such a great fucking episode holy shit wow I don't think house Tyrell has anything to do with it so to speak (aside from Loras being the leader?) but maybe I'm wrong. It's Renly's faction of the house Baratheon that's sided with the Lannisters. It's not even that strange considering another faction of the Baratheons were already sided with them The Game of Thrones wiki: When the War of the Five Kings began following King Robert Baratheon's death, House Baratheon became divided into three distinct factions: one led by Robert's son, Joffrey; one led by his younger brother, Stannis; and one led by his youngest brother, Renly.
Wait okay so House Tyrell sided with Renly with his + that cute chick's marriage, so when did Renly's faction side with the Lannisters? And why? I mean, if Stannis is the last Baratheon left, wouldn't they want to side with him?
'Cause Stannis killed his boyfriend, Renly. There was the scene in the tent where Tyrell asked who would gain most from killing his boyfriend, and someone said "Stannis" and then he retreats instead of joining up with Stannis. After that I assume he allies up with the Lannisters to get revenge. Littlefinger is also there, so he's probably the one giving him the idea to side with the Lannisters.
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On May 29 2012 18:43 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 18:16 Xapti wrote:On May 29 2012 18:09 youngminii wrote: Wait so, the Tyrells allied with the Lannisters? When did that happen? Whaaaaaaat? I don't think house Tyrell has anything to do with it so to speak (aside from Loras being the leader?) but maybe I'm wrong. It's Renly's faction of the house Baratheon that's sided with the Lannisters. It's not even that strange considering another faction of the Baratheons were already sided with them
The Game of Thrones wiki: When the War of the Five Kings began following King Robert Baratheon's death, House Baratheon became divided into three distinct factions: one led by Robert's son, Joffrey; one led by his younger brother, Stannis; and one led by his youngest brother, Renly.
Wait okay so House Tyrell sided with Renly with his + that cute chick's marriage, so when did Renly's faction side with the Lannisters? And why? I mean, if Stannis is the last Baratheon left, wouldn't they want to side with him?
Actually I might be totally mistaken. That's just how I interpreted it for some reason. I'm going to edit my post. I actually wanted to edit it earlier but ended up reading other stuff. It certainly seems to actually be Tyrell, since there was what looked like a Tyrell banner shown once.
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On May 29 2012 18:43 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 18:16 Xapti wrote:On May 28 2012 22:58 Mambo wrote: I want Tyrion to win, but i want the Lanisters to loose... With regards to wants: Tywin or Tyrion as king — Cercei and Joffrey dead — Jaimie exiled or gone on some sort of adventure. Considering they're a ridiculously dysfunctional family who seem to both care and dislike each other, I doubt any of them would intentionally let any of that happen. I just don't see it being physically possible that a family could develop in such a way to as they are now considering how relatively close they have seemed to have been (even if they have disdain for each other sometimes). They're just all over the wall with regards to intelligence, morals, mindsets, etc. On May 29 2012 18:09 youngminii wrote: Wait so, the Tyrells allied with the Lannisters? When did that happen? Whaaaaaaat?
P.S. such a great fucking episode holy shit wow I don't think house Tyrell has anything to do with it so to speak (aside from Loras being the leader?) but maybe I'm wrong. It's Renly's faction of the house Baratheon that's sided with the Lannisters. It's not even that strange considering another faction of the Baratheons were already sided with them The Game of Thrones wiki: When the War of the Five Kings began following King Robert Baratheon's death, House Baratheon became divided into three distinct factions: one led by Robert's son, Joffrey; one led by his younger brother, Stannis; and one led by his youngest brother, Renly.
Wait okay so House Tyrell sided with Renly with his + that cute chick's marriage, so when did Renly's faction side with the Lannisters? And why? I mean, if Stannis is the last Baratheon left, wouldn't they want to side with him? Well Loras made it quite clear when Renly was killed that he hated Stannis. So it's probably one of those "enemy of my enemy is my friend" relationships,
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On May 29 2012 18:44 Euronyme wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 18:43 youngminii wrote:On May 29 2012 18:16 Xapti wrote:On May 28 2012 22:58 Mambo wrote: I want Tyrion to win, but i want the Lanisters to loose... With regards to wants: Tywin or Tyrion as king — Cercei and Joffrey dead — Jaimie exiled or gone on some sort of adventure. Considering they're a ridiculously dysfunctional family who seem to both care and dislike each other, I doubt any of them would intentionally let any of that happen. I just don't see it being physically possible that a family could develop in such a way to as they are now considering how relatively close they have seemed to have been (even if they have disdain for each other sometimes). They're just all over the wall with regards to intelligence, morals, mindsets, etc. On May 29 2012 18:09 youngminii wrote: Wait so, the Tyrells allied with the Lannisters? When did that happen? Whaaaaaaat?
P.S. such a great fucking episode holy shit wow I don't think house Tyrell has anything to do with it so to speak (aside from Loras being the leader?) but maybe I'm wrong. It's Renly's faction of the house Baratheon that's sided with the Lannisters. It's not even that strange considering another faction of the Baratheons were already sided with them The Game of Thrones wiki: When the War of the Five Kings began following King Robert Baratheon's death, House Baratheon became divided into three distinct factions: one led by Robert's son, Joffrey; one led by his younger brother, Stannis; and one led by his youngest brother, Renly.
Wait okay so House Tyrell sided with Renly with his + that cute chick's marriage, so when did Renly's faction side with the Lannisters? And why? I mean, if Stannis is the last Baratheon left, wouldn't they want to side with him? 'Cause Stannis killed his boyfriend, Renly. There was the scene in the tent where Tyrell asked who would gain most from killing his boyfriend, and someone said "Stannis" and then he retreats instead of joining up with Stannis. After that I assume he allies up with the Lannisters to get revenge. Littlefinger is also there, so he's probably the one giving him the idea to side with the Lannisters. Right. Forgot about that scene.
Fuck Littlefinger that prickly cunt.
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If at any point in time Tyrion dies, I will seriously consider stopping watching the show.
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On May 29 2012 18:40 Mentalizor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 18:24 constantine wrote:On May 29 2012 18:09 youngminii wrote: Wait so, the Tyrells allied with the Lannisters? When did that happen? Whaaaaaaat?
Extremely disappointed myself by this development, anyone else feels like the joining of the 2 wealthiest houses in Westeros makes for an unfair (read: bad plot) fight? Having more money (Lannisters) and more food (Tyrells - well, I realize they're also quite rich) doesn't make you win wars if you're outnumbered, outgunned or just have no more allies while the noose is tightening. I can see why they would ally. They're both from the west of Westeros. Better be allies - if the Tyrells went all Pyke on them and took Casterly Rock while the Lannisters were fighting to keep King's Landing, I would've thought it was a bit disappointing. I wouldn't want the Lannisters to be defeated by anyone but Robb... Or maybe Arya or Tyrion somehow throwing the Lannisters off the throne by some scheme. well but they are not outnumbered by anybody and there are no guns (or otherwise superior tech), so yeah Tyrell+Lannister = imba
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On May 29 2012 18:24 constantine wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 18:09 youngminii wrote: Wait so, the Tyrells allied with the Lannisters? When did that happen? Whaaaaaaat?
Extremely disappointed myself by this development, anyone else feels like the joining of the 2 wealthiest houses in Westeros makes for an unfair (read: bad plot) fight?
Check the facts and what happened and notice how it is the most logical thing to happen
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Hey guys, as I did not rewatch any episode I can hardly remember what this House Tyrell is. Could somebody remind me? Google doesn't help that much because there's too much info. Is it the house with the dead gay lord? Or it is the one with the bridge? Or another one?
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