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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22478 Posts
May 29 2012 10:42 GMT
#10641
The dead gay guys queen was house Tyrell. And the blond that enters the throneroom with Tywin was the living gay guy and the queens brother.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 10:48:45
May 29 2012 10:47 GMT
#10642
On May 29 2012 19:42 Gorsameth wrote:
The dead gay guys queen was house Tyrell. And the blond that enters the throneroom with Tywin was the living gay guy and the queens brother.


Also named Margaery Tyrell and Loras Tyrell

On May 29 2012 19:36 Hemula wrote:
Hey guys, as I did not rewatch any episode I can hardly remember what this House Tyrell is. Could somebody remind me? Google doesn't help that much because there's too much info. Is it the house with the dead gay lord? Or it is the one with the bridge? Or another one?


The house with the bridge is the "Freys", they are fighting for Robb in the north.
anomalopidae
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Slovenia549 Posts
May 29 2012 10:57 GMT
#10643
ok so, if you remember Littlefinger was talking with Margaery after Renly died, then Littlefinger was talking with Tywin about how Maraery wants to be queen, which you might have missed cause all of you were hoping he wouldn't recognise Arya. I think it's safe to assume that they somehow managed to create some pact so that Tyrells join Lannisters.
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Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 11:05:35
May 29 2012 10:57 GMT
#10644
To clear up what happened (no spoilers, all can be deduced from the show):

Stannis is the head of House Baratheon (a great house), but most of his bannermen chose to follow Renly (Stannis' little brother) instead.

Renly was boyfriends with Loras Tyrell. Loras convinced Mace Tyrell to side with Renly. Mace is head of House Tyrell (a great house) and Loras' father.

Stannis has Renly killed. This makes all of the House Baratheon bannermen go to Stannis since they have no other liege lord.

Loras understands that Stannis was the one to order Renly's death, and so he retreats with his forces. Littlefinger convinces Loras to ally with the Lannisters. The Tyrells have two motives for doing this:
- Loras wants revenge against Stannis.
- Margaery (Loras' sister and former wife of Renly) wants to be The Queen. A part of this is also that the Tyrells recognize that they still have an opportunity to become major players in the Game after Renly dies. This is an opportunity they may not have had if Stannis won (speculation).

Note that the Tyrells were originally going to attack the Lannisters. This is because they supported Renly's claim to the throne, not because they had any particular hatred for the Lannisters. After Renly's death, there was no reason for them to side against the Lannisters, but a very good reason for them to side against Stannis.
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
May 29 2012 11:04 GMT
#10645
Thanks guys
Mattacate
Profile Joined September 2011
59 Posts
May 29 2012 11:10 GMT
#10646
All of the plot and intrigue aside, having read all the books OH MY GOD HBO WELL DONE ON THAT BATTLE OF THE BLACKWATER SCENE THAT WAS FUCKING INCREDIBLE. BRAVO, BRAVO I SAY!
Emix_Squall
Profile Joined February 2012
France705 Posts
May 29 2012 11:30 GMT
#10647
HELL YEAH !!!! AWESOME Episode !!!!

I had nerd chills from the moment Bronn shot that arrow until the end of the credits. Directing was really good, the whole final scene divided into Cersei and Tommen sitting on the throne, Tyrion slowly passing out while seeing his father's cavalry joining the fight, Cersei's tale while she's waiting for her death ... Such an amazing finish.
Also so many changes in characters and in relationships. Davos is dead, Captain Meryn is dead, Hound turning out to be such an honourable man, Cersei discovering about Shae's existence (even if she probably still hasn't related her to Tyrion), House Tyrell rooting for the Lannisters, DADDY'S BACK IN TOWN ...

Also considering the tale Cersei was talking about to her son, did anyone else had a feeling that if that kid doesn't die, he'd do something big?
Now that I think of it, with daddy Lannister being back, Joffrey running away from the battlefield as soon as his mom calls him, and the new Lannister / Tyrell alliance, I'm really starting to feel like Joffrey is gonna be in trouble. His Grandpa is obviously the one who should ACTUALLY rule, and I don't think even a prick like Joffrey would stand against him. Also Maergaery Tyrell clearly said she'd like to be queen ... If Sansa is actually gone and Tywinn is disappointed in his grandson as he should, I could very well imagine them finding a way to get rid of Joffrey and putting Tommen on the throne ... Maergaery would than only have to wait a few years for him to grow older before she can become THE Queen!
Juggernaut477
Profile Joined May 2011
United States379 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 11:42:45
May 29 2012 11:41 GMT
#10648
I wonder if the warlocks guild magicked Danys dragons into being big enough to fight or if we have to do another season of her endlessly bitching about what she is gonna do when they grow instead of contributing to the plot/show.
ZergCacique
Profile Joined July 2011
United States28 Posts
May 29 2012 11:50 GMT
#10649
I hope that the dwarf don't die...he is my second favorite lannister.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
May 29 2012 11:58 GMT
#10650
On May 29 2012 20:50 ZergCacique wrote:
I hope that the dwarf don't die...he is my second favorite lannister.

Favourite being........ Tywin?
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22478 Posts
May 29 2012 12:09 GMT
#10651
On May 29 2012 20:58 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 20:50 ZergCacique wrote:
I hope that the dwarf don't die...he is my second favorite lannister.

Favourite being........ Tywin?


Joffrey obv. who doesnt love the kid :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
May 29 2012 12:26 GMT
#10652
Tywin Lannister is a fucking badass.

fuck the police
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
May 29 2012 12:26 GMT
#10653
On May 29 2012 19:36 Hemula wrote:
Hey guys, as I did not rewatch any episode I can hardly remember what this House Tyrell is. Could somebody remind me? Google doesn't help that much because there's too much info. Is it the house with the dead gay lord? Or it is the one with the bridge? Or another one?

House Tyrell is one of the big houses, they are on the same level as Starks or Lannisters, they come from South-West, their region is the Reach, their capital is Highgarden.

The blond-ish knight who rushes in the throneroom after the battle is Loras Tyrell (the dead gay dude's lover), his sister is Margery (dead gay dude's wife) who said to Littlefinger she wants to be the queen. They supported Renly until his death, now they allied with the Lannisters
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Blackfish
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria309 Posts
May 29 2012 12:32 GMT
#10654
Do I get it right that the lannisters as a whole are not hated here? I don´t know, i have a bit of sympathy for tyrion... but the others, pure hate. Starks ftw!
Seriously they are so fucked up. All about being mighty not thinking once about the people just sitting on their thrones and throwing around with their gold.
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insectoceanx
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States331 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 12:39:13
May 29 2012 12:38 GMT
#10655
On May 29 2012 21:32 Blackfish wrote:
Do I get it right that the lannisters as a whole are not hated here? I don´t know, i have a bit of sympathy for tyrion... but the others, pure hate. Starks ftw!
Seriously they are so fucked up. All about being mighty not thinking once about the people just sitting on their thrones and throwing around with their gold.



Retracted Statement about books

Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
May 29 2012 12:42 GMT
#10656
What an amazing episode, a much better battle than most high budget films manage. The hound was fucking awesome!
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
HyDrA_solic
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Portugal491 Posts
May 29 2012 12:47 GMT
#10657
I hope Davos isn't dead. Such an amazing characther. Tyrion lives (in my opinion), that little cut will only give him a badass scar.
And omfg, Stannis Baratheon is fucked, but he's a boss, and he'll fin a way out of King's Landing.
It's all about the reflections of freedom. Even though he hoped for a better world, with all his strenght, all his will, the most he could do was to make her smile.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22478 Posts
May 29 2012 13:03 GMT
#10658
On May 29 2012 21:32 Blackfish wrote:
Do I get it right that the lannisters as a whole are not hated here? I don´t know, i have a bit of sympathy for tyrion... but the others, pure hate. Starks ftw!
Seriously they are so fucked up. All about being mighty not thinking once about the people just sitting on their thrones and throwing around with their gold.


Why would you hate all of them?
Tyrion is just awesome
Joffrey yes everyone hates him and justly so
Tywin is ruthless but brilliant. Hes rebuild his house to glory, secured the throne through cercei and while he has no problem with killing civilians to further his ends you have to realise that in the world they live in thats pretty normal.
Jamie, while obv wrong for screwing his sister doesnt have any reason to be hated beyond that.
Cercei is bad but considering she got wed off to Robert who didnt want her so she could put a kid lannister on the throne. As she said in the last episode she basicly wanted to be what Arya is but her father (understandably) wouldnt let her.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Juggernaut477
Profile Joined May 2011
United States379 Posts
May 29 2012 13:04 GMT
#10659
On May 29 2012 21:47 HyDrA_solic wrote:
I hope Davos isn't dead. Such an amazing characther. Tyrion lives (in my opinion), that little cut will only give him a badass scar.
And omfg, Stannis Baratheon is fucked, but he's a boss, and he'll fin a way out of King's Landing.



I forget,who was Davos? Was he the guy with the Onion sigil?
Domus
Profile Joined March 2011
510 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 13:14:58
May 29 2012 13:12 GMT
#10660
Hmmm....ok, I am in doubt. In the books, didn't the attack fail because Stannis was not allowed to take the red witch with him to the battle (because it is bad luck or something?). I am not not sure if this point was made in the show...That Stannis rises and falls by the support of the red witch? Am I missing something?

And this:
Jamie, while obv wrong for screwing his sister doesnt have any reason to be hated beyond that.

Did you forget he threw a kid of a building?...

Oh, and Cercei pretty much got Robert killed by getting him crazy drunk before fighting a boar, and this has thrown the entire kingdom into chaos.
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