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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
May 20 2019 03:26 GMT
#36101
The ending wasn't too bad considering the lead up to it. The major plot points are ok. It's the little details they glossed over as usual.

Where did the Dothraki go afterwards?
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
May 20 2019 03:26 GMT
#36102
On May 20 2019 12:23 KwarK wrote:
Like they fucking sent Arya off to Valinor without ever having established that this was all taking place in Middle Earth.


So many Hobbit jokes were made when I was watching this episode with my family. You just can't take this episode that seriously with how hard they were riding the LotR train.
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-20 03:30:59
May 20 2019 03:29 GMT
#36103
Did they mention what the Dothraki did? Did they just decide to be BFFs with the Unsullied? Can the Isle of Naath really handle thousands of Unsullied and Dothraki showing up?

Or were these just illusion Dothraki summoned by Brann's mystic powers, showing up and vanishing as the plot demanded?

I can't imagine they were okay with the Unsullied "fuck it let's leave" plan, but since there's no named characters left of them they couldn't express their displeasure.

Overall better than expected/10
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-20 03:37:37
May 20 2019 03:36 GMT
#36104
It was nice to see Jamie and Cersei faces untouched after the whole roof felt off over them , even Tyrion was able to found them after removing two little rocks, whaattt? , and Greyworm menacing and asking for justice when all the seasons he was nothing but a follower.....
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-20 03:39:15
May 20 2019 03:37 GMT
#36105
I've got mostly negative emotions from the episode

I can't belive John was resurrected for nothing, well, for being manipulated by Tyrion

What was the point of a tension between John and Grey Worm for last two episodes? Just to get a seconds of a screentime?

And while two dragons got killed, but played a key part in a plot, Drogon just flew away? Mkay
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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
May 20 2019 03:38 GMT
#36106
On May 20 2019 12:26 andrewlt wrote:
The ending wasn't too bad considering the lead up to it. The major plot points are ok. It's the little details they glossed over as usual.

Where did the Dothraki go afterwards?


Some of them stayed in Kings Landing but what was odd that it seemed like when Dany said no more pillaging they stuck to it.

As a note I am basing this off the Dothraki you can see as Jon is being escorted to his ship just casually moving around as though this is their home now.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
May 20 2019 03:44 GMT
#36107
On May 20 2019 12:09 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 12:02 KwarK wrote:
On May 20 2019 12:01 Adreme wrote:
On May 20 2019 11:57 KwarK wrote:
Bronn is unashamedly a completely mercenary individual seeking only to enrich himself. Better put him in charge of all the money.


I mean so was Littlefinger and he was a damn good master of coin (his job was to find the money and he found the money).

Littlefinger? He just kept borrowing more and more money from the Iron Bank and didn't tell anyone about it. He was a shit Master of Coin, he let Robert spend the entire kingdom into bankruptcy because he couldn't say no. Sure, everytime Robert asked Littlefinger to find money to host a tournament Littlefinger came up with it, but the kingdom was utterly bankrupt and owed a shitton of money to the Lannisters, the Tyrells, and the Iron Bank. Hell, that was part of his plan to ruin the kingdom. Part of his "chaos is a ladder" thing was to cause chaos by deliberately sucking as Master of Coin.


I mean he was not exactly hiding it. Robert just did not care. Robert needed money and he clearly seemed to know who he owed me money to (he even tries to get Ned to stop fighting the Lannisters because he is "half a blood kingdom in debt" so he probably knew where the other half was but did not care). Tywin seemed to know the entire time as well. So he was not keeping it a secret from the important people. He just did his job. "The master of coin finds the money. The king and the hand.. spend it."



At least in the books, they said that Littlefinger wasn't just borrowing money, he was borrowing and loaning to others at higher interest rates, and reinvesting money in other business investments including his brothels.

As for Bron, beyond the silliness of honoring that "debt" coerced by crossbow, High Garden wouldn't have been theirs to promise. At the time it would have been Dany's (assuming someone who lived there wouldn't have claimed control of the region before they could just take it).

Anyway, the episode was about what I expected, and probably about as good as could be expected given how bad the set up from last week was. Some brief thoughts:

+ Show Spoiler +

The damage was done last episode with Dany, so there wasn't much that could be done to save that. Her speech didn't make much sense regarding liberating King's Landing, considering all the citizens were dead. Then she went back to wanting to free the oppressed, ect. I guess that's just crazy talk?

I figured either Jon or Arya would kill her. The transfer of power after her death was certainly the most bloodless of any in the show's history. The Unsullied killed the surrendered Lannister soldiers on the spot, but took both Tyrion and Jon prisoner and let both go because the council said so? Bran's the king. King's Landing got completely repaired in miraculous time, and no visible long term effects for having it's entire population killed off. Jon gets sent to the Wall, which isn't even part of the kingdom any more, and has no apparent point any more with no White Walkers and the Wildlings all being friends now. So I guess it's more of less his own personal kingdom now that serves no real purpose. At least he got to be with Ghost again. The kingdom is remarkably free of any conflict. I've lost all attachment to all the show versions of the characters so none of the character endings had any emotional resonance for me.


Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
May 20 2019 03:58 GMT
#36108
On May 20 2019 12:36 palexhur wrote:
It was nice to see Jamie and Cersei faces untouched after the whole roof felt off over them , even Tyrion was able to found them after removing two little rocks, whaattt? , and Greyworm menacing and asking for justice when all the seasons he was nothing but a follower.....


Whats odd is that (and I get it was for TV purposes but it kinda broke my immersion for a bit) was that a LOT of that downstairs was intact to the point where if Jaime had just decided to not accept death and maybe go where the area isnt collapsing they probably could've survived just because so much of that area was intact which sorta defies what we saw when they died but if thats genuinely how it happened Jaime killed his sister pointlessly.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
May 20 2019 04:11 GMT
#36109
The entire speech tyrion gave to the lords about Bran being the 3-eyed raven and everything must have sounded completely ridiculous to most of them. Also, the unsullied have all sailed away just like that, Jon could just leave the wall and nobody ould care haha. Just chill in Winterfell
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
May 20 2019 04:16 GMT
#36110
ive had low expectations since like...season 5, season 6 at the latest, and i still am in shock at how bad this was. nothing worked. i cant even see what they were going for, it was that inept.
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
May 20 2019 04:28 GMT
#36111
On May 20 2019 11:57 KwarK wrote:
Bronn is unashamedly a completely mercenary individual seeking only to enrich himself. Better put him in charge of all the money.


As far as mercenaries go if you list all his accomplishments and how much he fought / saved the Lannisters... they were right to grant him power. He pointed a bow at them but he was paid to kill them. So he went in, "Look Lannister boys, I'm sick of all your shit and I've fought for you against mad lords, dragons, mad queens, sand snakes, and other freaks. Gimme a fucking castle."

He's earned it more than most. =p
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 20 2019 04:30 GMT
#36112
Biggest laugh was Edmure Tully finally reappearing after be absent for five seasons
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13990 Posts
May 20 2019 04:34 GMT
#36113
Yes out of all the canidates they went with the worst possible one. The guy who doesn't follow the local religion Doesn't belong to a local house and won't have a succession plan.

It's like the allies after WW1 decided to create on purpose WW2.

I'm not angry with the ending surprisingly. I'm so frustrated and confused I don't know how to feel.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10658 Posts
May 20 2019 04:39 GMT
#36114
That was a decent finale.

Happy Ghost, Tormund and Co. gonna be doing their own thing with the free folk. I got my fan service. I could complain about other things but this ep was actually very good.
Skol
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
May 20 2019 04:40 GMT
#36115
On May 20 2019 13:34 Sermokala wrote:
Yes out of all the canidates they went with the worst possible one. The guy who doesn't follow the local religion Doesn't belong to a local house and won't have a succession plan.

It's like the allies after WW1 decided to create on purpose WW2.

I'm not angry with the ending surprisingly. I'm so frustrated and confused I don't know how to feel.

They ever consider how allowing the North to secede just like that would set a bad precedent for the Iron Isles and Dorne that only creates more strife? Oh wait, D&D don't bother with the politics.
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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
May 20 2019 04:42 GMT
#36116
quick take - it was better than i expected, could've been worse. i thought arya was gonna kill dany, but i knew dany was gonna get killed. man that shit over jon snow. he was supposed to be the hero. he got robbed of NK kill, and he got robbed ruling the 7 kingdoms, and got exiled LOL

and they had no clue what to do with 3er so they made him the king lel
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
May 20 2019 04:46 GMT
#36117
On May 20 2019 13:40 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 13:34 Sermokala wrote:
Yes out of all the canidates they went with the worst possible one. The guy who doesn't follow the local religion Doesn't belong to a local house and won't have a succession plan.

It's like the allies after WW1 decided to create on purpose WW2.

I'm not angry with the ending surprisingly. I'm so frustrated and confused I don't know how to feel.

They ever consider how allowing the North to secede just like that would set a bad precedent for the Iron Isles and Dorne that only creates more strife? Oh wait, D&D don't bother with the politics.


They forgot that the Iron Isles aren't counted among the 7 kingdoms. If the north secedes but the ironborn join, that still makes 7 kingdoms, not 6. Yara was there for a reason, right? She acted like they were part of the new council to choose the king.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
May 20 2019 04:47 GMT
#36118
Highlight was Brienne finishing Jaime's part in the journal. Tyrion being the most enjoyable actor they have left on the show ... they were right to give him a tonne of screen time at least.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-20 04:52:09
May 20 2019 04:52 GMT
#36119
On May 20 2019 13:46 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 13:40 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On May 20 2019 13:34 Sermokala wrote:
Yes out of all the canidates they went with the worst possible one. The guy who doesn't follow the local religion Doesn't belong to a local house and won't have a succession plan.

It's like the allies after WW1 decided to create on purpose WW2.

I'm not angry with the ending surprisingly. I'm so frustrated and confused I don't know how to feel.

They ever consider how allowing the North to secede just like that would set a bad precedent for the Iron Isles and Dorne that only creates more strife? Oh wait, D&D don't bother with the politics.


They forgot that the Iron Isles aren't counted among the 7 kingdoms. If the north secedes but the ironborn join, that still makes 7 kingdoms, not 6. Yara was there for a reason, right? She acted like they were part of the new council to choose the king.


She very clearly rejoined the fold by bowing to Dany. Her purpose was to be part of the Dany loyal faction that wanted blood.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
May 20 2019 04:59 GMT
#36120
Honestly the small council scene is just a bunch of fan service and completly bullshit.
I can buy into Tyrion as Hand, Davos master of ship and maybe Brienne as Kings guard.
Bronn is completly out of place (even assuming they really did just fucking give him Highgarden), Sam is not even a full Maester is he? Even if... And Podrick? Like for real? Even he gets to be a Kingsguard?
Ugh..
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