EPTi mean and again, theyre dragons. i don't know any masters of dragon biology.
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brian
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i mean and again, theyre dragons. i don't know any masters of dragon biology. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On August 31 2017 02:30 KwarK wrote: Toasted Tarlys should have been a good scene but Tyrion and Dany didn't lend any real kind of moral anguish to it. Hm i actually think that scene could be considered for memorable stuff though. It could have been executed even better but at least it's close to what i imagine when asking this question. And yeah in general all the dragon stuff can be said to be memorable. The destruction of the wall was also along those lines though i was a bit underwhelmed tbh  | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2552 Posts
On August 31 2017 02:36 brian wrote: your criticism on the growth rate of a dragon is uh, ridiculous(sorry for the lack of a less charged word.) animals grow from embryo to full size in a year or two in all species except humans. right? i mean and again, theyre dragons. i don't know any masters of dragon biology. Well here's an article about Saltwater Crocodiles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltwater_crocodile#Size They reach maturity at age ~16 and keep growing forever until they die. Oldest recorded are 70 years I believe. At maturity they are roughly 6 feet and at 70 years they can reach sizes of over 20 feet. They have linear growth. That would make a lot more sense than going 1 foot to 20 feet in the first couple of years and then just chill around 20 feet for the next 68 years. Keep in mind, that dragons are meant to live for hundreds of years, so based off of the crocodile ratio, they shouldn't even reach maturity until 500*(16/70) = 114. Also I read somewhere that Aegon and his butt buddies waited until their dragons were 50 years old to invade Westeros so that they would be large enough to roast armies. I don't have a source though (but it makes sense). | ||
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Plansix
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MooMooMugi
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Deleted User 26513
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On August 31 2017 02:51 Hyperbola wrote: Well here's an article about Saltwater Crocodiles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltwater_crocodile#Size They reach maturity at age ~16 and keep growing forever until they die. Oldest recorded are 70 years I believe. At maturity they are roughly 6 feet and at 70 years they can reach sizes of over 20 feet. They have linear growth. That would make a lot more sense than going 1 foot to 20 feet in the first couple of years and then just chill around 20 feet for the next 68 years. Keep in mind, that dragons are meant to live for hundreds of years, so based off of the crocodile ratio, they shouldn't even reach maturity until 500*(16/70) = 114. Also I read somewhere that Aegon and his butt buddies waited until their dragons were 50 years old to invade Westeros so that they would be large enough to roast armies. I don't have a source though (but it makes sense). And that is a valid point, because the crocodiles are direct descendants of dragons, or the other way around ? | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On August 31 2017 02:51 Hyperbola wrote: Well here's an article about Saltwater Crocodiles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltwater_crocodile#Size They reach maturity at age ~16 and keep growing forever until they die. Oldest recorded are 70 years I believe. At maturity they are roughly 6 feet and at 70 years they can reach sizes of over 20 feet. They have linear growth. That would make a lot more sense than going 1 foot to 20 feet in the first couple of years and then just chill around 20 feet for the next 68 years. Keep in mind, that dragons are meant to live for hundreds of years, so based off of the crocodile ratio, they shouldn't even reach maturity until 500*(16/70) = 114. Also I read somewhere that Aegon and his butt buddies waited until their dragons were 50 years old to invade Westeros so that they would be large enough to roast armies. I don't have a source though (but it makes sense). that doesnt account for the fact that these are super magical dragons because of the way they were hatched with a weird blood ritual. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
On August 31 2017 02:37 The_Red_Viper wrote: Hm i actually think that scene could be considered for memorable stuff though. It could have been executed even better but at least it's close to what i imagine when asking this question. And yeah in general all the dragon stuff can be said to be memorable. The destruction of the wall was also along those lines though i was a bit underwhelmed tbh My problem with that scene was how they framed the shots. | ||
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thePunGun
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On August 31 2017 02:51 Hyperbola wrote: Well here's an article about Saltwater Crocodiles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltwater_crocodile#Size They reach maturity at age ~16 and keep growing forever until they die. Oldest recorded are 70 years I believe. At maturity they are roughly 6 feet and at 70 years they can reach sizes of over 20 feet. They have linear growth. That would make a lot more sense than going 1 foot to 20 feet in the first couple of years and then just chill around 20 feet for the next 68 years. Keep in mind, that dragons are meant to live for hundreds of years, so based off of the crocodile ratio, they shouldn't even reach maturity until 500*(16/70) = 114. Also I read somewhere that Aegon and his butt buddies waited until their dragons were 50 years old to invade Westeros so that they would be large enough to roast armies. I don't have a source though (but it makes sense). Dany is the mother of dragons, she's not the mother of crocodiles...that will always be Steve Irwin! | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2552 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
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On August 31 2017 05:14 Hyperbola wrote: If you guys are happy with a "magic, lol" explanation for dragons then okay. For me, it bothers me to no end because of the setting ramifications. For example: If dragons are indeed made from wishes and fairy dust then where did they originate from? Were they placed on Westeros by a higher being? If so, that 100% confirms a deity. Were they just zapped into existence out of nowhere? If so, then it's kinda bad writing tbh. Were dragons just genetically engineered by Valyrians from Wyverns? If yes, then that would make ASOAIF a scifi universe. And if the valyrians can adjust cell growth rate and lifespan in creatures, then did they genetically alter themselves as well? Or perhaps biology works in an entirely different way in the ASOAIF setting? Do you see where I'm coming from here? I see where you are coming from but the specific growth rate of dragons doesn't really bother me, no. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18274 Posts
On August 31 2017 02:11 The_Red_Viper wrote: And what about preston jacobs videos shouts 100% serious criticism? He even has a fake storyline with different characters for it. It's exaggerated to be funny, some of it is nitpicky and it wants to be nitpicky. Other things are more serious. But the format alone shouts "this wants to be entertaining more than 100% objective/academic/whatever you wanna call it". I wanna ask it here as well, what scenes this season had a real emotional impact on you guys? Real "wow" scenes you enjoyed for whatever reason (no scene is perfect obviously and even a scene which has real writing flaws can be still enjoyable) Personally i would say that this season has almost none for me personally, it would be challenging to find five for me. A lot of it was just "meh". Imo the best one was the battle scene with Jaime on the one side and Dany on the other, the scenario where you have two characters fighting against each other and you kinda like both. I can nitpick the writing there as well, but it still worked for me and was memorable. Then Viserion dying was something like that as well, not to the same extent but it still had an effect imo. Now it already gets a bit tough, i might forget something though. What about you guys? 1. Battle 2. Jaime and Cersei fallout 3. Arya returning home (before dumb and dumber; when she came in view of Winterfell) 4. Theon reeking out when Euron threatens Asha. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9433 Posts
Worsts worst banker said "I don't think we've ever had a debt of this size repaid in a single installment before" or something. Yes the iron bank economy makes zero sense. With the way they are handling business they are obviously never going to be profitable long term. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13995 Posts
On August 31 2017 05:41 Acrofales wrote: 1. Battle 2. Jaime and Cersei fallout 3. Arya returning home (before dumb and dumber; when she came in view of Winterfell) 4. Theon reeking out when Euron threatens Asha. 1. Train attack 2. Olenna death scene 3. Theon going full Reek | ||
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FreakyDroid
Macedonia2616 Posts
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FreakyDroid
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The_Red_Viper
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It’s clear after Sansa turns the tables on Littlefinger that she has had some sort of conversation with Bran, but we don’t get to see it. When did it take place? We actually did a scene that clearly got cut, a short scene with Sansa where she knocks on Bran’s door and says, “I need your help,” or something along those lines. So basically, as far as I know, the story was that it suddenly occurred to Sansa that she had a huge CCTV department at her discretion and it might be a good idea to check with him first before she guts her own sister. So she goes to Bran, and Bran tells her everything she needs to know, and she’s like, “Oh, s—.” http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/game-of-thrones-season-finale-cut-scene-1202541941/ | ||
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Hider
Denmark9433 Posts
On August 31 2017 07:44 FreakyDroid wrote: This video sums it up pretty nicely https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLfoNVG2m4c Nah I think he is confusing a few things. The endgame-concept has nothing to do with time-travel. You could make tweaks to the plot and make the time-aspect be a lot more consistent + make actions and decisions more believeable + still have more twists --> Get to the endgame. Yes the good guys have to win and thus we know Jon (and Dany + Arya + Sansa+Tyrion+Jamie) wouldn't die, however that was true in S5 and S6 as well. Making a coherent storyline w/ interesting twists could be done in alot of different ways while still getting to the endgame. The endgame-issue will be much more of a factor next season where they will have to fight (and beat) the Wildwalkers. Not sure how they can make that interesting from a drama-perspective. | ||
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palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
On August 31 2017 07:44 FreakyDroid wrote: This video sums it up pretty nicely Yes Sir, and nice to see the VFX video too. | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On August 30 2017 23:35 ticklishmusic wrote: i read your posts in totalbiscuit's voice. i just wanted you to know that. I am glad I am not the only one to do that lol | ||
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