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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 28 2017 16:05 GMT
#33841
On August 29 2017 01:01 Sent. wrote:
Now that's confirmed-confirmed:

Why did Ned never tell his wife the truth about Jon? Did he not trust her?
Why did Rhaegar marry Lyanna in secret? Why was his "divorce" kept secret?
Why was the marriage kept secret later?

Also, when did Jaime promise to go North to help team Dany? I understand his reasoning, just don't remember him making any pledges in the episode. By the way, Jaime going North means he'll probably meet Bran. Awkward...

He promised his sister he wouldn’t tell anyone because Robert would kill Jon. Robert spent a good amount of time trying to kill Dany. Robert didn’t want sister’s kid to become a political pawn. We don’t know why he never told his wife, but maybe he felt it would be easier to hide Jon if his wife hated Jon.
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stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
August 28 2017 16:08 GMT
#33842
On August 29 2017 00:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Nah but srsly, it seems clear that Dany will get a child from Aegon right?
Will this be used as a real plot point (maybe white walkers?) or is it more about a possible conflict between Dany and Aegon as soon as they find out that Aegon is no Sand.
Could also be a "happy ending"sort of thing


Dany/Aegon living in happy life as king and queen would be the lamest end ever for got, this is not supposed to be a fairy tale but hey, for the sake of fan service and lazy writing...
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9336 Posts
August 28 2017 16:14 GMT
#33843
On August 29 2017 01:05 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 01:01 Sent. wrote:
Now that's confirmed-confirmed:

Why did Ned never tell his wife the truth about Jon? Did he not trust her?
Why did Rhaegar marry Lyanna in secret? Why was his "divorce" kept secret?
Why was the marriage kept secret later?

Also, when did Jaime promise to go North to help team Dany? I understand his reasoning, just don't remember him making any pledges in the episode. By the way, Jaime going North means he'll probably meet Bran. Awkward...

He promised his sister he wouldn’t tell anyone because Robert would kill Jon. Robert spent a good amount of time trying to kill Dany. Robert didn’t want sister’s kid to become a political pawn. We don’t know why he never told his wife, but maybe he felt it would be easier to hide Jon if his wife hated Jon.


Yeah but why did Rhaegar and his dudes keep it secret? Why did high septon annul his first marriage in secret? Did his first wife even know about the annulment?
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 28 2017 16:19 GMT
#33844
Maybe to keep Elia and the children "safe" ? I mean if everybody would have known about it right there the dornish would have been quite angry.
Though not telling the north that Lyanna wasn't really abducted started the war to begin with. There is still something missing here, i don't think that the show will give us more though. The books might (they will come out, believe!)
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 28 2017 16:20 GMT
#33845
On August 29 2017 01:14 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 01:05 Plansix wrote:
On August 29 2017 01:01 Sent. wrote:
Now that's confirmed-confirmed:

Why did Ned never tell his wife the truth about Jon? Did he not trust her?
Why did Rhaegar marry Lyanna in secret? Why was his "divorce" kept secret?
Why was the marriage kept secret later?

Also, when did Jaime promise to go North to help team Dany? I understand his reasoning, just don't remember him making any pledges in the episode. By the way, Jaime going North means he'll probably meet Bran. Awkward...

He promised his sister he wouldn’t tell anyone because Robert would kill Jon. Robert spent a good amount of time trying to kill Dany. Robert didn’t want sister’s kid to become a political pawn. We don’t know why he never told his wife, but maybe he felt it would be easier to hide Jon if his wife hated Jon.


Yeah but why did Rhaegar and his dudes keep it secret? Why did high septon annul his first marriage in secret? Did his first wife even know about the annulment?

Scared of being hunted by Oberyn for dissing his sister?
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22700 Posts
August 28 2017 16:20 GMT
#33846
On August 29 2017 01:14 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 01:05 Plansix wrote:
On August 29 2017 01:01 Sent. wrote:
Now that's confirmed-confirmed:

Why did Ned never tell his wife the truth about Jon? Did he not trust her?
Why did Rhaegar marry Lyanna in secret? Why was his "divorce" kept secret?
Why was the marriage kept secret later?

Also, when did Jaime promise to go North to help team Dany? I understand his reasoning, just don't remember him making any pledges in the episode. By the way, Jaime going North means he'll probably meet Bran. Awkward...

He promised his sister he wouldn’t tell anyone because Robert would kill Jon. Robert spent a good amount of time trying to kill Dany. Robert didn’t want sister’s kid to become a political pawn. We don’t know why he never told his wife, but maybe he felt it would be easier to hide Jon if his wife hated Jon.


Yeah but why did Rhaegar and his dudes keep it secret? Why did high septon annul his first marriage in secret? Did his first wife even know about the annulment?

Because the world is built on marriages and pacts. Following your heart gets your house murdered. See Rob Stark.

Obviously Rhaegar didn't expect the continent to rally behind Robert in the way they did, so in highlight it looks really dumb.
But remember the type of person Robert is. I don't see him backing down from what he sees as his rightful wife, regardless of her feelings on the matter.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 28 2017 16:23 GMT
#33847
On August 29 2017 01:14 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 01:05 Plansix wrote:
On August 29 2017 01:01 Sent. wrote:
Now that's confirmed-confirmed:

Why did Ned never tell his wife the truth about Jon? Did he not trust her?
Why did Rhaegar marry Lyanna in secret? Why was his "divorce" kept secret?
Why was the marriage kept secret later?

Also, when did Jaime promise to go North to help team Dany? I understand his reasoning, just don't remember him making any pledges in the episode. By the way, Jaime going North means he'll probably meet Bran. Awkward...

He promised his sister he wouldn’t tell anyone because Robert would kill Jon. Robert spent a good amount of time trying to kill Dany. Robert didn’t want sister’s kid to become a political pawn. We don’t know why he never told his wife, but maybe he felt it would be easier to hide Jon if his wife hated Jon.


Yeah but why did Rhaegar and his dudes keep it secret? Why did high septon annul his first marriage in secret? Did his first wife even know about the annulment?

Maybe they didn’t an no one believed them. A big part of Game of Thrones is that victory is written by the victors. And the victors paint the losers as villains, all who deserved death. If you watch the first couple seasons, there isn’t even a hint that Ned’s sister might have never been kidnapped.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
August 28 2017 16:53 GMT
#33848
On August 29 2017 00:37 JamazVu wrote:
what If Tyrion was/is in love with daenerys? thats probably why he was so sad (or concerned about something?) They showed him like 3 times, def not just a coincidence


Or what if he knew Jon's background all along!
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Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-28 17:16:11
August 28 2017 17:15 GMT
#33849
Well, it was obvious that Cersei will betray everyone. It's interesting that they didn't keep the betrayal in secret for some time... Kind of missed opportunity for a plot twists there. Pretty obvious one, but still.
LF's death was satisfying. Arya doesn't play around.
Two targaryens are going to have a baby... Nothing new here, move along.
If Tormund and Baric are dead, I will be really sad. They survived too much just to die in an avalanche... Especially Beric, what was his purpose in this series ? There must be a reason why he was kept alive for so long. If he is really dead, that would make him the most useless character I've ever seen... So far zero contribution to the plot.

I think that the Night King is the good guy here - he is leading the WW to their death. As we see more of him, it's pretty obvious that he knows what will happen in the future and how things will play out. I don't know, if he is future/past version of Bran, but for sure his purpose is not to destroy every living thing.
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
692 Posts
August 28 2017 17:19 GMT
#33850
On August 28 2017 22:23 Jerubaal wrote:
If you did not enjoy this season as much as some previous seasons, that's understandable, but I don't think that's entirely the showrunners' fault. A large part of the appeal of the show is the many different threads and the possibility for anything to happen. As the threads are resolved, though, and the story comes to an end, these possibilities are fairly limited. This can definitely lend an air of predictability. It's a long, winding saga, but, now that the end is in sight, I feel there's a sense of "get on with it already".


I very much quote you - that's often a feeling one gets in long series / saga
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8222 Posts
August 28 2017 17:32 GMT
#33851
On August 29 2017 00:32 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 21:20 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 28 2017 20:24 Jetaap wrote:
Is it me or is the acting/dialogue just absolutely terrible? Cersei talking with clenched teeth at all time, the telenovelas level relationship between jon and daenarys... I find it hard to take seriously.

It's you. And this show has never been Shakespeare. If you want Shakespeare, go see Shakespeare. No "bad writing" to criticize and hopefully you can take it seriously.

Ridiculous comparison, sure it's never been Shakespeare but the writing has been getting steadily worse since the introduction of the Sand Snakes and dwindling book material.

Oooh what a surprise! When the whole thing is not written by a world class fantasy writer over 5 years per season / book, the quality of the writing is not as stellar. Really I expected tv writer to do as good as a job as Martin.

A. It's still effing good for television.
B. It has been several seasons they had to move past the source material and I've been reading about how the show was steadily declining and everything was so shit every single episode since. If people don't like it anymore, they find a show they like and post in its thread instead of filling this thread that is supposed to be nice with toxic negativity about how it's so shit and laughable episode after episode after episode after episode. It's fucking annoying.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 28 2017 17:36 GMT
#33852
In before: But my complaints are valid criticisms.

Seriously, I'll make fun of the sillier parts of the show, but I do it in a way that isn't completely negative. There is a way to critique a show without simply shitting on it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
August 28 2017 17:43 GMT
#33853
On August 29 2017 01:08 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 00:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Nah but srsly, it seems clear that Dany will get a child from Aegon right?
Will this be used as a real plot point (maybe white walkers?) or is it more about a possible conflict between Dany and Aegon as soon as they find out that Aegon is no Sand.
Could also be a "happy ending"sort of thing


Dany/Aegon living in happy life as king and queen would be the lamest end ever for got, this is not supposed to be a fairy tale but hey, for the sake of fan service and lazy writing...

I'm pretty sure this will not happen. My bet is one of the two dies, probably Daenerys because of Jon's foolishness/"honor".
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 28 2017 18:01 GMT
#33854
On August 29 2017 02:32 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 00:32 Scarecrow wrote:
On August 28 2017 21:20 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On August 28 2017 20:24 Jetaap wrote:
Is it me or is the acting/dialogue just absolutely terrible? Cersei talking with clenched teeth at all time, the telenovelas level relationship between jon and daenarys... I find it hard to take seriously.

It's you. And this show has never been Shakespeare. If you want Shakespeare, go see Shakespeare. No "bad writing" to criticize and hopefully you can take it seriously.

Ridiculous comparison, sure it's never been Shakespeare but the writing has been getting steadily worse since the introduction of the Sand Snakes and dwindling book material.

Oooh what a surprise! When the whole thing is not written by a world class fantasy writer over 5 years per season / book, the quality of the writing is not as stellar. Really I expected tv writer to do as good as a job as Martin.

A. It's still effing good for television.
B. It has been several seasons they had to move past the source material and I've been reading about how the show was steadily declining and everything was so shit every single episode since. If people don't like it anymore, they find a show they like and post in its thread instead of filling this thread that is supposed to be nice with toxic negativity about how it's so shit and laughable episode after episode after episode after episode. It's fucking annoying.


I imagine the latest season was a mix of stuff that GRRM laid out to the writers/ the writers got approved by GRRM though.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 28 2017 18:05 GMT
#33855
A lot of this stuff was set up by GRRM, though the final details might be far more complicated and protracted than the series deals with. Most of the people my wife and I know who like that show really wanted it to get moving a couple of seasons ago. Season 5 was a real chore for most fans, with the exception of Hardhome.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
August 28 2017 18:07 GMT
#33856
On August 29 2017 01:05 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 01:01 Sent. wrote:
Now that's confirmed-confirmed:

Why did Ned never tell his wife the truth about Jon? Did he not trust her?
Why did Rhaegar marry Lyanna in secret? Why was his "divorce" kept secret?
Why was the marriage kept secret later?

Also, when did Jaime promise to go North to help team Dany? I understand his reasoning, just don't remember him making any pledges in the episode. By the way, Jaime going North means he'll probably meet Bran. Awkward...

He promised his sister he wouldn’t tell anyone because Robert would kill Jon. Robert spent a good amount of time trying to kill Dany. Robert didn’t want sister’s kid to become a political pawn. We don’t know why he never told his wife, but maybe he felt it would be easier to hide Jon if his wife hated Jon.


If Cat knows the truth she wont hate Jon and if she does not hate Jon anyone who is paying attention would know that something was up based on who she is. The last thing he wants is people asking questions so instead he decided to take the safest approach and tell no one at all.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
August 28 2017 18:08 GMT
#33857
If I were willing to place a bet I would not rule out the possibility that Tyrion told Cersei to just lie and say she would do everything she did. Tyrion knows the real war is in the North and also probably believes that they can easily take back the 7 kingdoms after.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 28 2017 18:19 GMT
#33858
I believe that Ned always planned on telling Kat about Jon after he was fully grown and with the Night’s Watch. But those plans were cut short, which is sort of the theme of the show.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
August 28 2017 18:25 GMT
#33859
A+++++ episode

had been complaining about teleportation and other bad writing but this episode redeemed everything

wolfpack taking down little finger
wincest
bron + tyrion dialogue
cleganebowl teaser
AND SO MUCH MORE

yeah littlefinger became dumb after the plot advanced past the books but oh well
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
692 Posts
August 28 2017 19:02 GMT
#33860
I just watched the "making of" the episode and my only comment is.. what kind of accent does Podrick has in real life ??
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