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On August 28 2017 22:04 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 21:53 Plansix wrote:On August 28 2017 20:00 farvacola wrote:I'm glad LF is finally dead and while it was awkward and cliche as fuck, seeing Theon get a chance to redeem himself made me happy  The Winterfell plot was the weakest this season, though it only lasted a couple of episodes. I would have preferred all the stark kids just figure it out and the next three episodes be them trying find a way to publicly accuse Little Finger. But that ending was passable. LF was always going to die by over playing his hand. That's pretty much what happened. It was off-screen tho, since they wanted it to be a twist. Nothing fancy and it didn't feel good to me either, but well it is what it is. With Bran into equation is pretty hard to do anything else.
Yeah, the twist was a choice that I didn’t agree with. I feel it would have been more interesting to see Sansa and Arya debate how to deal with LF and keep the support of the Vale. It would have been nice to see them finally enter the role of their parents and play the game. But I’m not to upset about it.
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Dont know about you guys but this episode was really good. Can't wait for the next season.
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If you did not enjoy this season as much as some previous seasons, that's understandable, but I don't think that's entirely the showrunners' fault. A large part of the appeal of the show is the many different threads and the possibility for anything to happen. As the threads are resolved, though, and the story comes to an end, these possibilities are fairly limited. This can definitely lend an air of predictability. It's a long, winding saga, but, now that the end is in sight, I feel there's a sense of "get on with it already".
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At some point the giant army of ice zombies was going to break through the giant wall. And fight the dragons. Its not called a song of fire and ice for nothing.
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I'm pretty happy with the last episode.
I've been thinking for the last seasons this show is just an epic version of The Bold And The Beautiful with more gore, nudity and sass, but wachagannado? I keep watching because I've invested so much time in it and to see what kind of good shots/scenes they do manage to get it.
I think it becomes normal that the story becomes bland as it's very difficult to go in the way it did now that everything seems to collide. When GoT just started there were so many storylines with so many different possibilities for every one of them. When they start to converge... less options become available. So in the grand scheme it becomes predictable.
For the personal side of things it's all drama between x person and y person, which is barely better than Susan confronting Mark about him cheating on her with Billy or some shit. Stiff acting, a serious score and lighting/setting make it feel more than that, oh and I shouldn't forget the absoluteness of certain decisions (like executions etc).
People should stop pretending like they're watching something more than it actually is. This is just a fancy soap opera.
Aside from my little lecture: I liked the meeting; the Tyrion & Cersei dialogue was interesting, although I had some issues with the martyr line by Tyrion. I loved how Jaime was defiant to her. Redemption for Theon, nice. Incest lovemaking (I wonder how they'll deal with that, if they deal with it at all, lol (you think Bran's watching?  )). And I absolutely loved the get together with nearly all the major characters in the dragon arena with the little interactions between them. Just shows all the history between these people.
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what I love the most is Jaime looked like he could die. That tension was great.
Also I find it quite funny how Sam corrected Bran. The three eyed raven ability may have more limitations than we think.
Also glad to see LF finally dying, honestly up until some point last season his character development felt like at the end road already.
That scene with Tyrion "caught" them having sex is also weird...especially when they just revealed about Jon's true parenthood, it's like we all now should feel uncomfortable.
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Dany will get pregnant, die at childbirth, her son will be azor ahai and Jon will give it to the nightsking which then will save westeros. You heard it here first folks 
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On August 28 2017 22:39 ETisME wrote:
what I love the most is Jaime looked like he could die. That tension was great.
Also I find it quite funny how Sam corrected Bran. The three eyed raven ability may have more limitations than we think.
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This part was gold too though
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It's interesting to see the diversity of opinions people have. Overall I was mostly okayish with the season, though I felt they had some pacing issues in the first half, like they were jumping from plotline to plotline to set up for the next season before settling down in the latter half. A few pretty silly plot holes, but still good TV.
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On August 28 2017 22:39 ETisME wrote:
That scene with Tyrion "caught" them having sex is also weird...especially when they just revealed about Jon's true parenthood, it's like we all now should feel uncomfortable.
I thought this scene was odd too, maybe they are hinting Tyrion is also related to them.
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i have to say : what a final
the revelation about john snow is the cherry on the cake
we have a feeling of rushed things throughout the season, but it's how it has to be, since everything is gonna conclude soon enough
a solid 7.5/10
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Nah but srsly, it seems clear that Dany will get a child from Aegon right?
Will this be used as a real plot point (maybe white walkers?) or is it more about a possible conflict between Dany and Aegon as soon as they find out that Aegon is no Sand.
Could also be a "happy ending"sort of thing
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btw, even if the secret marriage hadn't happened Jon would not be a Sand right? Your bastard name comes from your father, so he would be whatever a Targaryn bastard is, not a Dorne.
On August 29 2017 00:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Nah but srsly, it seems clear that Dany will get a child from Aegon right?
Will this be used as a real plot point (maybe white walkers?) or is it more about a possible conflict between Dany and Aegon as soon as they find out that Aegon is no Sand.
Could also be a "happy ending"sort of thing
Why would it cause a conflict? Incest is a time honored tradition among Targaryns.
I bet on the happy ending.
The real question is whether their child would be another crazy one :p
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The real question is how will Jon react? I doubt he is going to stop being a Stark. The whole point of his character is that he defined who he was, not his birth. If the series is about breaking the wheel, than the question will be if Jon and Dany decide to rule with an heir or break the cycle.
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Nah the bastard name is typically where you are born or rather raised. So it might still be Snow tbh.
Well conflict because he is the heir to the Iron Throne not Dany, that could theoretically be a problem.
The baby, i don't know what it does for the story. Maybe really just a happy ending, or a "bittersweet one" if Dany dies in childbirth.
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On August 28 2017 21:20 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 20:24 Jetaap wrote:
Is it me or is the acting/dialogue just absolutely terrible? Cersei talking with clenched teeth at all time, the telenovelas level relationship between jon and daenarys... I find it hard to take seriously. It's you. And this show has never been Shakespeare. If you want Shakespeare, go see Shakespeare. No "bad writing" to criticize and hopefully you can take it seriously.
Ridiculous comparison, sure it's never been Shakespeare but the writing has been getting steadily worse since the introduction of the Sand Snakes and dwindling book material.
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what If Tyrion was/is in love with daenerys? thats probably why he was so sad (or concerned about something?) They showed him like 3 times, def not just a coincidence
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On August 29 2017 00:37 JamazVu wrote:
what If Tyrion was/is in love with daenerys? thats probably why he was so sad (or concerned about something?) They showed him like 3 times, def not just a coincidence
I think it is more about him being concerned that a lovestory right now might be bad for the overal plan, etc.
Emotional decisions right now might be unproductive, etc
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On August 28 2017 18:22 VHbb wrote:I'm sure the Night King would have been able to dispell the magic enchanting the wall in some way - in 7 seasons, I never assumed that the wall would have been able to just STOP the army of the dead, otherwise the whole threat would have felt really not.. menacing  How do we know that the frost dragon broke the magic defenses - and it was not the Night King himself that did it? Maybe they'll explain it in the first episode of S8, but even if they didn't, I really don't see any inconsistencies here.. p.s. no need for the attitude, I'm not "wrong", I just don't see it like you - if the show makes you angry don't put it on me p.p.s. what was up with Tyrion in the ending of the episode, when Jon went into Daenerys room? The music made the moment kind of weird ..
No intention to be rude, sorry. Why we know that the Nights King and White Walkers have existed for more than 8000 years because that is the age of the Wall. 8000 years in perspective is crazy long, we have to go back to ancient Egyptians and even longer, thats why people of Westeros have forgotten the whole MAIN purpose of the Wall, to protect the living against the undead and not to protect against Wildlings.
CotF built the Wall with Bran the builder and ancient spells were woven into the Wall.
So when you are saying the Nights King had 6 seasons figuring how to break the Wall, I claim you are wrong. Because he have waited for this opportunity for thousand of years and acquired the "weapon" he needed to break the Walls magic defense. Thus we can assume dragonfire is a magicbreaker. We have seen it in the House of Dead where Daenerys were trapped and let her dragons breath fire to let her escape and break the spell.
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Now that's confirmed-confirmed:
Why did Ned never tell his wife the truth about Jon? Did he not trust her?
Why did Rhaegar marry Lyanna in secret? Why was his "divorce" kept secret?
Why was the marriage kept secret later?
Also, when did Jaime promise to go North to help team Dany? I understand his reasoning, just don't remember him making any pledges in the episode. By the way, Jaime going North means he'll probably meet Bran. Awkward...
On August 29 2017 00:37 JamazVu wrote:
what If Tyrion was/is in love with daenerys? thats probably why he was so sad (or concerned about something?) They showed him like 3 times, def not just a coincidence
I bet he's just salty that Jon will get to ride the second dragon. He always liked dragons and hoped Dany will give him one
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