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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On August 16 2017 07:43 Broetchenholer wrote: I think the biggest problem with the ending of the show is that the whitewalkers as the endgame are either utterly boring or completely underwhelming. There is very little the show can do now to make them threatening. The showviewer has seen them coming for 7 seasons now and i don't think we can still be shocked. If they drag the confrontation with them over a full season, they will be that super boring threat that for some reason never really threatens and there is only so much foreshadowing the viewer can take. If they limit it to 2-3 big battles/revelations and fokus only on human drama in between, the end will be extremely unsatisfying. I think the only way how they can deal with that if they make 2 episodes or 3 at the end with a huge enduring battle, kind of return of the king style. They can still pull out a frost wyrm type thing, especially if they manage to blindside a dragon unexpectedly since nobody actually knows their capabilities when it comes to what they can and can't raise and even the amount of ranged weaponry they can bring to bear; they've simply never had a need to use it. I do really wonder if they're going to take those ship-to-ship combat weapons to the wall. I think that's less likely than frost wyrms at this point, but I have some hope. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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But this way we got to see Euron "be a badass" and Cersei getting her revenge. You talked about Varys or Tyrion betraying Dany. I mean there would be some foreshadowing now with them talking about Dany's decision to kill the Tarlys. At the same time i don't see why Varys would ever do it outside of Dany going mad (which i doubt atm) Tyrion could choose Jaime over her for example, but i am not sure if they wanna go that route because if they did then Jaime probably would have been captured after the battle. A legit question obviously is to ask what the purpose of both characters is atm, well i don't know. But as i said you don't have to kill everybody off, they are fine being "boring puppets" without a real plot purpose. (at least in theory, in practice we obviously still need good dialogue for them, something interesting) | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
and some random friendly "li-ming" magician predicted three betrayals for her, one left or two? | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On August 16 2017 08:25 TheTenthDoc wrote: They can still pull out a frost wyrm type thing, especially if they manage to blindside a dragon unexpectedly since nobody actually knows their capabilities when it comes to what they can and can't raise and even the amount of ranged weaponry they can bring to bear; they've simply never had a need to use it. I do really wonder if they're going to take those ship-to-ship combat weapons to the wall. I think that's less likely than frost wyrms at this point, but I have some hope. I'd be shocked if we don't get a frost wyrm by season's end | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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RCMDVA
United States708 Posts
Starting at 1:25 or so...the Giant to the left. Is he carrying something? If he is, then he can do this. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On August 16 2017 11:46 Plansix wrote: One does not have an undead army against three dragons without making at least one undead dragon. Those unstoppable killing machines are going to get rekt. I wouldn't be shocked if two get picked off super quick and are made into zombie dragons. 100% going to have an undead dragon at some point. My money is on Drogon getting killed and then turned into an undead. Then the 2 other smaller dragons have to pull their weight and have a 2v1 with Dany & Jon riding them respectively into the fight hoping to take him down. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4544 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9390 Posts
On August 16 2017 13:43 Zooper31 wrote: 100% going to have an undead dragon at some point. My money is on Drogon getting killed and then turned into an undead. Then the 2 other smaller dragons have to pull their weight and have a 2v1 with Dany & Jon riding them respectively into the fight hoping to take him down. Interesting idea. Can Dragons kill the wall btw? Or is it inpregnetable to fire? Starting at 1:25 or so...the Giant to the left. Is he carrying something? If he is, then he can do this. My guess for the plot before watching this episode: 1. The cunt group does shit and get in problems. 2. Jon Snow asks for help. 3. Dragon comes for the help (1 or 2). It has some type of telepatic attachment to the true Targaryan heir - it can feel when they need help. 4. Dragon helps but Giant kills it in the proces. 5. Undead Dragon is acquired. 6. Undead Dragon kills the wall. This sequence of events could happen because they would involve cool action scenes and it would make it possible for the Night King to kill the wall while still answering why they didn't just destroy it years ago. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9390 Posts
I mean there would be some foreshadowing now with them talking about Dany's decision to kill the Tarlys. Yeh but maybe she could start doing even more "Mad King" stuff over the next few episodes/start of season 8. Her going in the footsteps of her father would be an interesting storyline. Probably more interesting than all of the "heroes" being the good guys and beating the White Walkers together. While D&D aren't great drama writers, this seems to be a storyline they could be on board with. Perhaps while facing the threat of the White Walkers she would want to sacrifice millions of lives in the proces while Tyrion and Varys looks for another solution. Anyway, giving the premise that all of our heroes don't end up the good guys/working together happily throughout all of S8, what type of "twist" do you think is the most likely in S8? | ||
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Denmark9390 Posts
For those interested, it was released in very good quality, so no reason to wait. | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
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kongoline
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The_Red_Viper
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On August 16 2017 16:40 Hider wrote: Yeh but maybe she could start doing even more "Mad King" stuff over the next few episodes/start of season 8. Her going in the footsteps of her father would be an interesting storyline. Probably more interesting than all of the "heroes" being the good guys and beating the White Walkers together. While D&D aren't great drama writers, this seems to be a storyline they could be on board with. Perhaps while facing the threat of the White Walkers she would want to sacrifice millions of lives in the proces while Tyrion and Varys looks for another solution. Anyway, giving the premise that all of our heroes don't end up the good guys/working together happily throughout all of S8, what type of "twist" do you think is the most likely in S8? I mean i could potentially see Dany going a bit more mad and then Tyrion/Varys being not happy with that. There is foreshadowing for it and it would be a reasonable storyline (and yeah i agree it would be more interesting) At the same time i am not sure if the show really wants to make a female main character "evil" when we already have Cersei. So overall i don't think there will be a twist which will shake up our character constellation tbh. If i had to assume something though i would say Tyrion might choose Jaime over Dany. How that exactly happens? I don't know. | ||
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
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Yhamm
France7248 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On August 16 2017 21:23 The_Red_Viper wrote: I mean i could potentially see Dany going a bit more mad and then Tyrion/Varys being not happy with that. There is foreshadowing for it and it would be a reasonable storyline (and yeah i agree it would be more interesting) At the same time i am not sure if the show really wants to make a female main character "evil" when we already have Cersei. So overall i don't think there will be a twist which will shake up our character constellation tbh. If i had to assume something though i would say Tyrion might choose Jaime over Dany. How that exactly happens? I don't know. I think Cersei makes it nearly impossible for Tyrion to make that choice. Jaime will follow a preggers Cersei to the ends of the earth and Tyrion will probably never side with Cersei (since she's basically everything he's trying to stop Dany from becoming). If that preggers Cersei dies Jaime will either blue-screen or just go completely mental, neither of which Tyrion would betray even a mad Dany for. Who knows, though, almost anything can happen. It seemed like Jaime was really coming around to rationality last episode until the baby revelation. Maybe Jaime will finally wise up if there's a big reveal that Cersei's lying about being pregnant. | ||
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ZBiR
Poland1092 Posts
On August 16 2017 18:33 Hider wrote: Ah the bad thing about watching the episode is that I can't really make more predictions on this thread since stuff obviously was revealed. For those interested, it was released in very good quality, so no reason to wait. Piracy is bad, mmkay? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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