On June 21 2015 07:46 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Honestly, I don't think Stannis is dead, his execution is still uncertain, all deaths of major plot characters were clear (Ned, Catelyn, Robb, Joffrey etc etc) and what do we see here? Brienne simply swings and that's all. Although Myrcella might be dead, but she's not the main character.
P.S. Stannis is like #1-2 of the unluckiest characters alongside with Brienne (LOL), so they must survive for some time.
jon might be alive but i doubt stannis is. brienne has been going off for like 3 seasons that she wants stannis dead. now that she has the opportunity i can't possibly imagine that she wouldn't take it.
On June 21 2015 07:46 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Honestly, I don't think Stannis is dead, his execution is still uncertain, all deaths of major plot characters were clear (Ned, Catelyn, Robb, Joffrey etc etc) and what do we see here? Brienne simply swings and that's all. Although Myrcella might be dead, but she's not the main character.
P.S. Stannis is like #1-2 of the unluckiest characters alongside with Brienne (LOL), so they must survive for some time.
actually, I am fairly certain that D&D have intentionally shot both the deaths scenes of stannis and of jon in a way that leaves room for them to be still alive or come back to life. the reasons are twofold: a) this way, they can adapt to whatever route GRRM goes with those characters in the books. I am sure they have talked with him about stuff like that. if GRRM himself already knows if jon survives or not, he surely has told them. b) all major deaths so far have occurred in episodes between 2-9, never in episode 10. this is the first time that the lingering question whether a certain character is really dead has been used as a cliffhanger at the end of a season. in this case, the risk is just too high if the actor himself knows about his character being back to life in the upcoming season. so its certainly the best to leave them in the dark about. for this reason alone, it would already make sense not to shoot a more explicit stannis death scene.
I thought he already told them what would happen. I mean, as the author he'd already know where he wants their characters to go, and I'm guessing they actually asked him ahead of time.
On June 21 2015 07:46 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Honestly, I don't think Stannis is dead, his execution is still uncertain, all deaths of major plot characters were clear (Ned, Catelyn, Robb, Joffrey etc etc) and what do we see here? Brienne simply swings and that's all. Although Myrcella might be dead, but she's not the main character.
P.S. Stannis is like #1-2 of the unluckiest characters alongside with Brienne (LOL), so they must survive for some time.
jon might be alive but i doubt stannis is. brienne has been going off for like 3 seasons that she wants stannis dead. now that she has the opportunity i can't possibly imagine that she wouldn't take it.
Her goal was to save Sansa and Arya, and after all this - killing Stannis, she knew Sansa is in Winterfell, Brienne is stupid enough to make it all step by step. I do belive she would not feel fine executing wounded half-dead Stannis, that's not how she acts, she's a WOMAN with kind heart. And basicly there were no reason to hide the actual death of Stannis, so why didn't they showed it at all? Jon is dead for now, but I assume the red woman uses some mana to resurrect him, having her and possibly Ser Davos / Stannis / Brienne on the same side vs Boltons might be interesting.
Those walljump by Sansa and Theon - it was an obvious suicide nonetheless, but its like for sure we gonna see em in next season.
What with Tyrells? I rly doubt Cersei has changed, especially having mountain back as her puppet.
On June 19 2015 07:07 Drazerk wrote: Just a reminder Melissandre has still failed to kill Balon Greyjoy with those leeches
she didn't, 2 of 3 leeches worked perfectly, there is a big possibility 3rd worked as well, but having no ironborns plot in season 5 we are going to know this only in season 6
Those walljump by Sansa and Theon - it was an obvious suicide nonetheless, but its like for sure we gonna see em in next season.
lol its not suicide. If they wanted to kill themselves they should have jumped on the other side lol. So they decided on their minds to kill themselves together without speaking? Theres are reason why the snow on the ground was focused for a second.
On June 21 2015 10:39 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: ... that's not how she acts, she's a WOMAN with kind heart.
Random sexism is random.
Brienne is a knight, and a knight who takes her knightly calling very seriously, vows and all. She is a cold-blooded killer who happens to be a decent person, but whose decency is expressed in her devotion to justice and her oaths... which often means she's extra brutal to the wicked. She's killed dozens of men, including one killed slowly shoving a sword deeper into him to make him pay for his crimes. Watch any clip of Brienne in a moment when most of us would get intensely emtional; she's always stone-cold. Her lack of a dick doesn't make her any less of any of that.
Also, could we point out that when she heard Stannis was coming, if she had waited even a moment she could have seen the Sansa light, but instead she ran off to go kill the regicide.
Also, could we point out that when she heard Stannis was coming, if she had waited even a moment she could have seen the Sansa light, but instead she ran off to go kill the regicide.
One more example of lazy, unsubtle script writing there.
Those walljump by Sansa and Theon - it was an obvious suicide nonetheless, but its like for sure we gonna see em in next season.
lol its not suicide. If they wanted to kill themselves they should have jumped on the other side lol. So they decided on their minds to kill themselves together without speaking? Theres are reason why the snow on the ground was focused for a second.
When I first seen the episode i was convinced they both commited suicide, and somehow everybody on the internet is convinced they are alive and well, congratulating them on their escape and all.
On June 21 2015 16:25 palexhur wrote: Besides Stannis has nothing to offer to the show now, he has no army, no family, Mel just abandoned him, he is not relevant anymore.
I thought Stannis portrayed the finality of his death pretty well. Didnt have to show me his actual death to be convinced tbh. Stannis seriously has NOTHING LEFT. If he were, by miracle, to come back then he would have no one left. Not even the Red Lady who was with him since the very start.
On June 21 2015 09:30 Black Gun wrote: b) all major deaths so far have occurred in episodes between 2-9, never in episode 10.
Tywin? Khal Drogo?
Drogo wasn't a major plot character.
Wtf lol. Pretty sure the Dothraki are gonna be pretty damn important... heck, they already have been for giving Dany her initial base of support. And it's likely they end up as the bulk of her army.
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