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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
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Rotodyne
United States2263 Posts
On November 30 2010 14:52 D10 wrote: Everyone saying Lumen having sex with dexter is not realistic never studyed psychology seriously in their life or biology  | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
or have hormones? lol they pretty much experienced something together that they would never forget in their lives and something that not many people have ever done! It is only natural for feelings to get involved and escalated. Liddy, the private eye or w/e, by the way, is doing an awesome job in the show. He has really impressed me with his acting for this character. I also think Deb is going to find out about Lumen, just not sure if she will find out about dex yet :O On November 30 2010 11:51 AssuredVacancy wrote: Don't read the thread if you're not up to date on the show, or at least, not the newest replies. LoL seriously if you have not even finished the last season why would you take the risk and browse through the newest posts if you really don't want it spoiled? But last 5 episodes have been pretty good and have taken several characters in different directions, which I do like. And ya I definitely don't get what Emily's deal in all this is, or even how Lumen found out so much info about her, but good stuff in future episodes I hope. | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On November 30 2010 11:33 mizU wrote: COULD WE PLEASE SPOILER BIG THINGS LIKE + Show Spoiler + rita dying For people who are still on season 3 or so. Don't read the fucking thread if you don't want spoilers. There is no reason to spoiler any post in threads about a specific show or movie. It should be assumed that there are spoilers. | ||
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Tenshik
124 Posts
On November 30 2010 15:45 Bosu wrote: Don't read the fucking thread if you don't want spoilers. There is no reason to spoiler any post in threads about TV shows. It should be assumed that there are spoilers. Totally agree with you man. Who comes in here to discuss Season 3 and shit. Like wow guys I just finished Season 1 and Dexter killing people totally speaks to me. I wonder what'll happen. OMGWTFBBQ? + Show Spoiler + Rita died?! But seriously, these past two episodes effing rocked. So much development, well acted and well done imo. The middle I was dragging along watching it merely because I felt obliged to. But I hit epi 9 and i couldnt wait for yesterday's show. | ||
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Jerebread
Canada115 Posts
On November 30 2010 14:13 TimesharE wrote: ^ thank you. I don't see why everyone thinks it happened so fast. + Show Spoiler + I still don't understand Emily and how she ties into everything. Why did Jordan tell her to tell Lumen the truth? What the fuck was up with that weird hand touch thing? Suppose next episode will reveal a lot but damn. Well from the looks of it, Emily has this weird attraction to Jordan - 'I'd do anything for you' etc. It seems like there's some sort of pseudo relationship in her head - 'No one will ever replace you, you're special to me etc.' The touch was her wanting more, and Jordan (obviously repulsed) pretending that he cares about Emily, when all he wants is for her to keep quiet. | ||
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Deleted User 50491
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wadis
Sweden59 Posts
On November 30 2010 16:04 Jerebread wrote: Well from the looks of it, Emily has this weird attraction to Jordan - 'I'd do anything for you' etc. It seems like there's some sort of pseudo relationship in her head - 'No one will ever replace you, you're special to me etc.' The touch was her wanting more, and Jordan (obviously repulsed) pretending that he cares about Emily, when all he wants is for her to keep quiet. I don't think Jordan ever rapes, he just watches, as Emily said he did with her rape. He didnt want Emily to touch him and he agreed to the DNA-sample. | ||
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ShAsTa
Belgium2841 Posts
On November 30 2010 13:57 yamato77 wrote: I don't think the argument of her still reacting badly to the touch of another person holds any water. She has now witnessed the deaths of 3/5 of her rapists, and caused the death of another. She does not feel as powerless about the state of her life, as she initially did. Dexter has helped her get over all of those reservations that held her back in the beginning, and this is just the next step. Being intimate with Dexter follows logically from sharing the deep secrets of being murderers together. I don't think the claim of it being too soon is very strong either. Dexter is the only person she's been close to since he released her, and she even admitted in this very episode how much he has helped her. Not to mention that we have no idea how much real time has passed since the beginning of this ordeal. The writers have set this up well, and you have to expect things to happen on a somewhat accelerated scale because it is a TV show that has to be entertaining. It does nothing for the show to still have Lumen scared of human contact, especially from Dexter. Do you have sex with everyone you share a secret with? Afaik no reason was provided why Dexter would have sex with her. The reason put forward for helping Lumen is that it helps him deal with the guilt over Rita. So it seems strange that with Rita in the back of his mind he would do this (unless of course somehow for Dexter Lumen was Rita). At most a little over 3 months (probably less judging from Liddy's phrasing) have passed since the beginning of the season because that's when Lumen was supposed to get married and Dexter only met Lumen at the end of episode 3... | ||
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Mattes
Germany1116 Posts
The way they staged the whole scene was well done in my opinion. I really think that dexter bonds with her on a level like nobody else before, its quite different from miguel, and also very different from the bond he had to rita, who in the beginning wasnt more than a alibi with he, like he said himself, growed accustomed to, and developed real feeling. He doesnt love lumen, its not even safe to say he likes her in a more than normal way, they just shared something special (again a point we cant relate to (well...except for those vigilantes that hunt in pairs but remain hidden in our midst lol) | ||
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ShAsTa
Belgium2841 Posts
On November 30 2010 22:54 Mattes wrote: With all this, you gotta understand that dexter is no normal person that deals with guilt/sadness/loss like everybody else...so if find it kind of useless to judge if its plausible for him.. The way they staged the whole scene was well done in my opinion. I really think that dexter bonds with her on a level like nobody else before, its quite different from miguel, and also very different from the bond he had to rita, who in the beginning wasnt more than a alibi with he, like he said himself, growed accustomed to, and developed real feeling. He doesnt love lumen, its not even safe to say he likes her in a more than normal way, they just shared something special (again a point we cant relate to (well...except for those vigilantes that hunt in pairs but remain hidden in our midst lol) Granted this is the first time he bonded with a person in this way so in that regard I guess anything could happen. It still feels terribly wrong. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
On November 30 2010 22:44 ShAsTa wrote: Do you have sex with everyone you share a secret with? Afaik no reason was provided why Dexter would have sex with her. The reason put forward for helping Lumen is that it helps him deal with the guilt over Rita. So it seems strange that with Rita in the back of his mind he would do this (unless of course somehow for Dexter Lumen was Rita). At most a little over 3 months (probably less judging from Liddy's phrasing) have passed since the beginning of the season because that's when Lumen was supposed to get married and Dexter only met Lumen at the end of episode 3... You're basically cherry-picking my posts apart while ignoring the obvious truth I'm getting at; the writers have set this up from the beginning, and it follows logically in the story progression that they would get together. Perhaps this seems a little quick to you, but in the context of this season and how Lumen and Dexter have developed, it makes sense that they would have sex after her first kill because, for the both of them, the experience makes them feel alive, which is the whole point of what they're doing. In response to your actual post and its intricacies, if I shared a secret with someone that we were both killing people for the satisfaction of our lives and for the justice it brings to the world, I would have a bond with them that is nigh unbreakable. The kind of trust you have to have to be okay with someone else knowing who you are on a level like that is unimaginable to most people. I'm not saying I'd definitely have sex with them, but if I was attracted to them and they were to me, who better to fill that void in my life than the person I trust with my darkest secret? And I don't think the only reason he helped/helps Lumen is because it makes him feel better about Rita. Perhaps that is why it started, but it has obviously developed further than that. The signs were there, with him saving her life twice, her saving him once, her emotional outburst. Just because you didn't pick up on them didn't mean that they weren't there. The timing might be accelerated, admittedly, but they can't just drag out the show unnecessarily for a more pronounced sense of realism; it has to be entertaining! | ||
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ShAsTa
Belgium2841 Posts
On November 30 2010 23:26 yamato77 wrote: You're basically cherry-picking my posts apart while ignoring the obvious truth I'm getting at; the writers have set this up from the beginning, and it follows logically in the story progression that they would get together. Perhaps this seems a little quick to you, but in the context of this season and how Lumen and Dexter have developed, it makes sense that they would have sex after her first kill because, for the both of them, the experience makes them feel alive, which is the whole point of what they're doing. In response to your actual post and its intricacies, if I shared a secret with someone that we were both killing people for the satisfaction of our lives and for the justice it brings to the world, I would have a bond with them that is nigh unbreakable. The kind of trust you have to have to be okay with someone else knowing who you are on a level like that is unimaginable to most people. I'm not saying I'd definitely have sex with them, but if I was attracted to them and they were to me, who better to fill that void in my life than the person I trust with my darkest secret? And I don't think the only reason he helped/helps Lumen is because it makes him feel better about Rita. Perhaps that is why it started, but it has obviously developed further than that. The signs were there, with him saving her life twice, her saving him once, her emotional outburst. Just because you didn't pick up on them didn't mean that they weren't there. The timing might be accelerated, admittedly, but they can't just drag out the show unnecessarily for a more pronounced sense of realism; it has to be entertaining! I picked up on their bond becoming stronger. I just don't see how that automatically translates into sex. She's a rape victim and he's not exactly a sexual creature. To me it just feels like it's done for cheap entertainment. | ||
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SolHeiM
Sweden1264 Posts
On November 30 2010 11:04 ShAsTa wrote: She is not normal psychologically because she was raped. You think that the damage that did somehow makes her more inclined to have sex? So because she's damaged, whatever the writers make her do makes sense? I think the writers are doing what they can to cater to the masses. And that includes casting a known (but not a good) actress and by the end of the season having a sex scene between her and the lead even if it doesn't make any sense. No, she was fucked up before she got raped. Getting raped doesn't turn you into a sociopath who doesn't feel anything when you kill another human being regardless of it's an act of revenge or not. | ||
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TrainFX
United States469 Posts
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ShAsTa
Belgium2841 Posts
On December 01 2010 02:43 SolHeiM wrote: No, she was fucked up before she got raped. Getting raped doesn't turn you into a sociopath who doesn't feel anything when you kill another human being regardless of it's an act of revenge or not. I didn't really think about that, makes sense. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On November 30 2010 11:54 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: And least Rita didn't look like an Alien. Dexter son, I am dissapoint. yeah... rita looks a thousand times better. still great episode/season. cant believe its almost over already... so much shit build up and in any way the ending will be huge... | ||
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ShAsTa
Belgium2841 Posts
On December 01 2010 03:24 BeMannerDuPenner wrote: yeah... rita looks a thousand times better. still great episode/season. cant believe its almost over already... so much shit build up and in any way the ending will be huge... In the 2nd season, the final stretch so to speak started from the 9th episode. Those 4 episodes spanned only a couple of days. Since then, it feels like there's this buildup each season and in the finale everything (more or less) is resolved. All the really important stuff is put into one episode. I wish they would spread it out a little more. I hope I'm making myself clear. | ||
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
I'm looking forward to the final 2 episode clusterfuck of nonstop adrenaline pumping events. | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + That Emily chick made no sense whatsoever. She befriended the guy who organized her gang rape, and idolizes him like he has some kind of superpowers. He wanted her to tell Lumen everything for some reason, I guess to get Alex into trouble, but then why did she turn them away the first time they knocked on her door? Liddy manages to waltz into police HQ and borrow some top-of-the-line surveillance equipment with nothing more than a forged signature on a piece of paper, from a clerk who has never seen him before? Is it really that easy? If Quinn needed that shit, why didn't he get it himself? You'd think that lady would at least pick up a phone. How the HELL did Deb and Quinn miss the kill room when they were in that house? They saw the guy's car in the driveway, shouldn't they have search every inch of that house until they found him? The door is like, directly attached to the living room. I don't understand. Sex, really? I saw it coming a mile away but it still seems like a big leap to me. Either way, I seem to be one of the only people on TL who actually likes Lumen, so it's cool with me I suppose. Just this whole episode seemed so unbelievable to me. Also, am I the only one who thinks Dexter should just tell Deb the truth? She would be quite sympathetic and probably end up helping him, even if she knew the full extent of everything he's done. His life would be much easier. | ||
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