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On November 30 2010 11:22 Too_MuchZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 11:04 ShAsTa wrote:On November 30 2010 10:45 SolHeiM wrote:On November 30 2010 10:34 ShAsTa wrote:On November 30 2010 10:21 deth wrote:On November 30 2010 09:05 ShAsTa wrote:
Episode was okay, previous episode was better, until the end. Dex and Lumen hooking up felt so unbelievably and completely forced. Lumen was raped, beaten, cut and I don't know what else. She had a panic attack from getting frisked. No way she would have sex this soon after all that. And Dexter so soon after Rita's death.... I don't believe it at all. The writers fucked up big time imo. After such an intense experience, the first thing they would want to do biologically speaking is shag the fuck out of each other. While i didn't like it, its certainly not forced ... its frustratingly realistic Your experience in getting raped and murdering one of your rapists tells you that? Obviously she is not a normal person psychologically, which means it makes sense. You are assuming she (a fictional character I might add) thinks and acts like you do or how you think you would act in her situation. Never assume other people think and act like you do because they don't, fictional or real. She is not normal psychologically because she was raped. You think that the damage that did somehow makes her more inclined to have sex? So because she's damaged, whatever the writers make her do makes sense? I think the writers are doing what they can to cater to the masses. And that includes casting a known (but not a good) actress and by the end of the season having a sex scene between her and the lead even if it doesn't make any sense. But but Dexter likes damaged goods (like Rita). I was so expecting when this would happen :D
It took a long time before Rita was okay with having sex...
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On November 30 2010 11:39 ShAsTa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 11:22 Too_MuchZerg wrote:On November 30 2010 11:04 ShAsTa wrote:On November 30 2010 10:45 SolHeiM wrote:On November 30 2010 10:34 ShAsTa wrote:On November 30 2010 10:21 deth wrote:On November 30 2010 09:05 ShAsTa wrote:
Episode was okay, previous episode was better, until the end. Dex and Lumen hooking up felt so unbelievably and completely forced. Lumen was raped, beaten, cut and I don't know what else. She had a panic attack from getting frisked. No way she would have sex this soon after all that. And Dexter so soon after Rita's death.... I don't believe it at all. The writers fucked up big time imo. After such an intense experience, the first thing they would want to do biologically speaking is shag the fuck out of each other. While i didn't like it, its certainly not forced ... its frustratingly realistic Your experience in getting raped and murdering one of your rapists tells you that? Obviously she is not a normal person psychologically, which means it makes sense. You are assuming she (a fictional character I might add) thinks and acts like you do or how you think you would act in her situation. Never assume other people think and act like you do because they don't, fictional or real. She is not normal psychologically because she was raped. You think that the damage that did somehow makes her more inclined to have sex? So because she's damaged, whatever the writers make her do makes sense? I think the writers are doing what they can to cater to the masses. And that includes casting a known (but not a good) actress and by the end of the season having a sex scene between her and the lead even if it doesn't make any sense. But but Dexter likes damaged goods (like Rita). I was so expecting when this would happen :D It took a long time before Rita was okay with having sex...
I guess Lumen and Dexter having same "hobby" did speed up sexual tension.
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On November 30 2010 11:42 Too_MuchZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 11:39 ShAsTa wrote:On November 30 2010 11:22 Too_MuchZerg wrote:On November 30 2010 11:04 ShAsTa wrote:On November 30 2010 10:45 SolHeiM wrote:On November 30 2010 10:34 ShAsTa wrote:On November 30 2010 10:21 deth wrote:On November 30 2010 09:05 ShAsTa wrote:
Episode was okay, previous episode was better, until the end. Dex and Lumen hooking up felt so unbelievably and completely forced. Lumen was raped, beaten, cut and I don't know what else. She had a panic attack from getting frisked. No way she would have sex this soon after all that. And Dexter so soon after Rita's death.... I don't believe it at all. The writers fucked up big time imo. After such an intense experience, the first thing they would want to do biologically speaking is shag the fuck out of each other. While i didn't like it, its certainly not forced ... its frustratingly realistic Your experience in getting raped and murdering one of your rapists tells you that? Obviously she is not a normal person psychologically, which means it makes sense. You are assuming she (a fictional character I might add) thinks and acts like you do or how you think you would act in her situation. Never assume other people think and act like you do because they don't, fictional or real. She is not normal psychologically because she was raped. You think that the damage that did somehow makes her more inclined to have sex? So because she's damaged, whatever the writers make her do makes sense? I think the writers are doing what they can to cater to the masses. And that includes casting a known (but not a good) actress and by the end of the season having a sex scene between her and the lead even if it doesn't make any sense. But but Dexter likes damaged goods (like Rita). I was so expecting when this would happen :D It took a long time before Rita was okay with having sex... I guess Lumen and Dexter having same "hobby" did speed up sexual tension.
To preposterous speeds.
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On November 30 2010 11:33 mizU wrote:COULD WE PLEASE SPOILER BIG THINGS LIKE + Show Spoiler +For people who are still on season 3 or so.
Don't read the thread if you're not up to date on the show, or at least, not the newest replies.
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On November 30 2010 10:34 ShAsTa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 10:21 deth wrote:On November 30 2010 09:05 ShAsTa wrote:
Episode was okay, previous episode was better, until the end. Dex and Lumen hooking up felt so unbelievably and completely forced. Lumen was raped, beaten, cut and I don't know what else. She had a panic attack from getting frisked. No way she would have sex this soon after all that. And Dexter so soon after Rita's death.... I don't believe it at all. The writers fucked up big time imo. After such an intense experience, the first thing they would want to do biologically speaking is shag the fuck out of each other. While i didn't like it, its certainly not forced ... its frustratingly realistic Your experience in getting raped and murdering one of your rapists tells you that?
Your experience in getting raped and murdering one of your rapists tells you the opposite?
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And least Rita didn't look like an Alien.
Dexter son, I am dissapoint.
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On November 30 2010 11:52 GGQ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 10:34 ShAsTa wrote:On November 30 2010 10:21 deth wrote:On November 30 2010 09:05 ShAsTa wrote:
Episode was okay, previous episode was better, until the end. Dex and Lumen hooking up felt so unbelievably and completely forced. Lumen was raped, beaten, cut and I don't know what else. She had a panic attack from getting frisked. No way she would have sex this soon after all that. And Dexter so soon after Rita's death.... I don't believe it at all. The writers fucked up big time imo. After such an intense experience, the first thing they would want to do biologically speaking is shag the fuck out of each other. While i didn't like it, its certainly not forced ... its frustratingly realistic Your experience in getting raped and murdering one of your rapists tells you that? Your experience in getting raped and murdering one of your rapists tells you the opposite?
The fact that Rita was raped and beaten repeatedly and didn't want sex tells me. Numerous examples I have read about and heard about on tv tell me.
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fucking shit balls fuck shit fuck...
i want dexter to get caught already, and for everyone in the world to acknowledge his total badassery and just let him walk, cause hes a badass and does whatever the fuck he wants...fuck.... this "OMG IS HE GOING TO GET CAUGHT!" plan they are doing 10 times an episode is fucking stupid fuck shit fuck
boo on him shagging that one other chick though, dont like her at all...
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On November 30 2010 11:57 ShAsTa wrote:
The fact that Rita was raped and beaten repeatedly and didn't want sex tells me. Numerous examples I have read about and heard about on tv tell me.
Have you ever thought about why a person who has been assaulted in such a way acts like that? Perhaps it's because they develop trust issues, which were obviously what Rita had with Dexter throughout their relationship. Dexter and Lumen, on the other hand, have shared with each other the deepest parts of their lives, and she has every reason to trust him as he does her.
Why wouldn't they get together? Why would Lumen be averse to being intimate with a person who just helped her kill her rapist(s) and has nurtured her since she escaped from them? She has no reason not to trust him, and that is the basis for their intimacy. It makes total sense to me.
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On November 30 2010 12:11 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 11:57 ShAsTa wrote:
The fact that Rita was raped and beaten repeatedly and didn't want sex tells me. Numerous examples I have read about and heard about on tv tell me. Have you ever thought about why a person who has been assaulted in such a way acts like that? Perhaps it's because they develop trust issues, which were obviously what Rita had with Dexter throughout their relationship. Dexter and Lumen, on the other hand, have shared with each other the deepest parts of their lives, and she has every reason to trust him as he does her. Why wouldn't they get together? Why would Lumen be averse to being intimate with a person who just helped her kill her rapist(s) and has nurtured her since she escaped from them? She has no reason not to trust him, and that is the basis for their intimacy. It makes total sense to me.
Trust issues is a big part of it but that's not all. It's not why Rita didn't want to have sex, she didn't think Dexter was not to be trusted and was going to rape her. Lumen did not think the security personnel wasn't to be trusted. Every touch reminded her of what happened before. She doesn't want to relive it. Also going from trusting someone to having sex with someone is not a small step. It is too soon.
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On November 30 2010 11:51 AssuredVacancy wrote:Don't read the thread if you're not up to date on the show, or at least, not the newest replies.
Everyone seemed to get the idea to put a spoiler on important parts...
Except some guy who wanted to tell the world that
+ Show Spoiler +
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Pretty sure Deb is going to figure out that Dexter is a Serial Killer. Like seriously, she killed that one dude and felt Great about it. In this most recent episode she saw herself as a vigilante hunting down these men and killing them. Also, as someone else pointed out earlier, in the book(s)? Deb knows about Dexter's dark side---and is okay with it.
So yeah... that's my prediction
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Sick episode, that ex-narcotics officer is really bringing the heat to Dexter and Lumen. I wonder if the evidence would be admissible as it is police equipment taken under fraudulent pretenses.
+ Show Spoiler +What will Deb, Astor and Cody think they find out that Lumen is more than just a renter at Dexter's house now? Moreover, what is the motivation behind that woman's staunch allegiance to Jordan Chase
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On November 30 2010 12:27 Titan107 wrote:
Pretty sure Deb is going to figure out that Dexter is a Serial Killer. Like seriously, she killed that one dude and felt Great about it. In this most recent episode she saw herself as a vigilante hunting down these men and killing them. Also, as someone else pointed out earlier, in the book(s)? Deb knows about Dexter's dark side---and is okay with it.
So yeah... that's my prediction
You could be right (I actually think Quinn might be the one to find out), but the books are very, very different from the show so that doesn't really count.
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Prediction: Either deb or Quinn finds out and is ok with it, im guessing Quinn.
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On November 30 2010 12:37 unkkz wrote:
Prediction: Either deb or Quinn finds out and is ok with it, im guessing Quinn.
Yeah, it looks like Quinn is going to end up killing the private detective....i cant remember his name
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my guess is that dex and lumen would plot emily as the vigilante. but i don't know... after watching the previous for the next episodes, it seems that jordan is going to kill emily. but it could still work. they would plot that emily killed the 4 guys, then jordan killed emily. then jordan will disappear or get arrested by deb and quinn.
i can't wait how dexter would getaway from liddy.
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On November 30 2010 12:31 GhoSt[shield] wrote:Sick episode, that ex-narcotics officer is really bringing the heat to Dexter and Lumen. I wonder if the evidence would be admissible as it is police equipment taken under fraudulent pretenses. + Show Spoiler +What will Deb, Astor and Cody think they find out that Lumen is more than just a renter at Dexter's house now? Moreover, what is the motivation behind that woman's staunch allegiance to Jordan Chase
To respond to your spoiler.
+ Show Spoiler +the writers are clearly going to have Lumen kill Astor.
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On November 30 2010 12:25 ShAsTa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 12:11 yamato77 wrote:On November 30 2010 11:57 ShAsTa wrote:
The fact that Rita was raped and beaten repeatedly and didn't want sex tells me. Numerous examples I have read about and heard about on tv tell me. Have you ever thought about why a person who has been assaulted in such a way acts like that? Perhaps it's because they develop trust issues, which were obviously what Rita had with Dexter throughout their relationship. Dexter and Lumen, on the other hand, have shared with each other the deepest parts of their lives, and she has every reason to trust him as he does her. Why wouldn't they get together? Why would Lumen be averse to being intimate with a person who just helped her kill her rapist(s) and has nurtured her since she escaped from them? She has no reason not to trust him, and that is the basis for their intimacy. It makes total sense to me. Trust issues is a big part of it but that's not all. It's not why Rita didn't want to have sex, she didn't think Dexter was not to be trusted and was going to rape her. Lumen did not think the security personnel wasn't to be trusted. Every touch reminded her of what happened before. She doesn't want to relive it. Also going from trusting someone to having sex with someone is not a small step. It is too soon.
I don't think the argument of her still reacting badly to the touch of another person holds any water. She has now witnessed the deaths of 3/5 of her rapists, and caused the death of another. She does not feel as powerless about the state of her life, as she initially did. Dexter has helped her get over all of those reservations that held her back in the beginning, and this is just the next step. Being intimate with Dexter follows logically from sharing the deep secrets of being murderers together.
I don't think the claim of it being too soon is very strong either. Dexter is the only person she's been close to since he released her, and she even admitted in this very episode how much he has helped her. Not to mention that we have no idea how much real time has passed since the beginning of this ordeal. The writers have set this up well, and you have to expect things to happen on a somewhat accelerated scale because it is a TV show that has to be entertaining. It does nothing for the show to still have Lumen scared of human contact, especially from Dexter.
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thank you. I don't see why everyone thinks it happened so fast.
+ Show Spoiler +I still don't understand Emily and how she ties into everything. Why did Jordan tell her to tell Lumen the truth? What the fuck was up with that weird hand touch thing? Suppose next episode will reveal a lot but damn.
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