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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
July 08 2013 03:59 GMT
#5741
That was an interesting episode. I kinda had a feeling the first dude was being forced into killing people. I'm still getting the feeling that Vogel is a serial killer, or at least a psychopath herself. She certainly seems that way with how happy she is about Dexter's work.
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Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
July 08 2013 05:11 GMT
#5742
Yea... it's almost too obvious, hope we are wrong about Vogel, it would be a really poor story for 2013.

The only odd thing is that the "blue gloved hand person" seemed to be taller, but it is kind of hard to tell, when dexter finds the killer's corpse we can't judge height well. It's probably just Vogel in the end.
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 05:21:30
July 08 2013 05:19 GMT
#5743
Yeah...I gotta say, serial killer or whatever, vogel is fucking creepy. The way she was rubbing Dexter? Haha dear god.

edit: if it was vogel, how did she have the strength to transport and string up a full grown man? Seems unlikely. On the other hand, how the hell did that letter get all its way across the room and into that dead mans house? Do criminals keep maids...?
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 05:42:00
July 08 2013 05:41 GMT
#5744
On July 08 2013 14:19 Dazed_Spy wrote:
edit: if it was vogel, how did she have the strength to transport and string up a full grown man?

ya i doubt its vogel it would be stupid
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NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
July 08 2013 05:42 GMT
#5745
I think we're heading towards a path of Dexter not being a psychopath, and simply being damaged. Throughout the seasons he's been "showing emotions". So maybe in the last episodes he catches Vogel, kills her and feel guilty about it. And lives emotionally with all the horrors he has done.

Maybe he kills himself when Harry finishes college in a flashforward at the end of the show, with a letter to everyone, who knows.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
July 08 2013 06:00 GMT
#5746
On July 08 2013 14:42 NPF wrote:
I think we're heading towards a path of Dexter not being a psychopath, and simply being damaged. Throughout the seasons he's been "showing emotions". So maybe in the last episodes he catches Vogel, kills her and feel guilty about it. And lives emotionally with all the horrors he has done.

Maybe he kills himself when Harry finishes college in a flashforward at the end of the show, with a letter to everyone, who knows.
If its anything but his death at the hands of a cop, or his arrest and life imprisonment at the end of the show, I'll be pissed. I'll also be pissed if he realizes hes not a psychopath, though thats been blatant since the start, to my chagrin. Humanizing him really makes him lose a ton of appeal, which is to like a bad man. Hes less bad if hes got a heart.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 08 2013 11:32 GMT
#5747
I am kinda annoyed that a British woman is named Vogel. :D
Ok she could have married an American but still, just doesnt sound British.
Off-season = best season
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
July 08 2013 11:58 GMT
#5748
On July 08 2013 20:32 Redox wrote:
I am kinda annoyed that a British woman is named Vogel. :D
Ok she could have married an American but still, just doesnt sound British.


You mean German.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
July 08 2013 12:51 GMT
#5749
On July 08 2013 14:19 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Yeah...I gotta say, serial killer or whatever, vogel is fucking creepy. The way she was rubbing Dexter? Haha dear god.

edit: if it was vogel, how did she have the strength to transport and string up a full grown man? Seems unlikely. On the other hand, how the hell did that letter get all its way across the room and into that dead mans house? Do criminals keep maids...?


Well you have to think that she is manipulating other killers and forcing other people to kill, she has multiple patients that she is manipulating to do her bidding. I got the feeling she was behind the killings the more she talked about how great psychopaths are. Won't be surprised if that is the case.
Altair
Profile Joined August 2009
243 Posts
July 08 2013 15:07 GMT
#5750
On July 08 2013 21:51 karazax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 14:19 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Yeah...I gotta say, serial killer or whatever, vogel is fucking creepy. The way she was rubbing Dexter? Haha dear god.

edit: if it was vogel, how did she have the strength to transport and string up a full grown man? Seems unlikely. On the other hand, how the hell did that letter get all its way across the room and into that dead mans house? Do criminals keep maids...?


Well you have to think that she is manipulating other killers and forcing other people to kill, she has multiple patients that she is manipulating to do her bidding. I got the feeling she was behind the killings the more she talked about how great psychopaths are. Won't be surprised if that is the case.

I totally agree I think she will try to get Dexter to kill Debra and she will end up on the table just like his brother. Remains to be seen if Debra is going to bite the dust in the process.

On July 08 2013 14:19 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Yeah...I gotta say, serial killer or whatever, vogel is fucking creepy. The way she was rubbing Dexter? Haha dear god.

It looked like Dexter jizzed in his pants. lol
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
July 08 2013 15:10 GMT
#5751
From the preview it looks like Vogul is going to try to get Dexter to kill Deb... Good luck with that one BITCH!

No way she isn't evil.
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NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
July 08 2013 15:18 GMT
#5752
On July 09 2013 00:10 Figgy wrote:
From the preview it looks like Vogul is going to try to get Dexter to kill Deb... Good luck with that one BITCH!

No way she isn't evil.


She isn't evil, she's just a real psychopath, unlike Dexter, who built barriers around his emotions, that are slowly crumbling down throughout the seasons we've been watching him.
Rebornlife
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada224 Posts
July 08 2013 17:12 GMT
#5753
On July 09 2013 00:18 NPF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 00:10 Figgy wrote:
From the preview it looks like Vogul is going to try to get Dexter to kill Deb... Good luck with that one BITCH!

No way she isn't evil.


She isn't evil, she's just a real psychopath, unlike Dexter, who built barriers around his emotions, that are slowly crumbling down throughout the seasons we've been watching him.


^^Yes

When she saw the video of the murder I thought she was conveying genuine shock and disgust, I don't think she is the killer. I do think she is telling a great lie rooted in the truth that a patient of hers is doing it, whether or not she is controlling him or working with him is yet to be seen.
exKid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom118 Posts
July 08 2013 17:18 GMT
#5754
So, forgive me if I'm wrong, but at the end of season 7:
Deb walks in, draws HER gun, shoots Laguerta.

So, at first I thought this was a dumb and they weren't gonna mention it and just gloss over a lot of evidence and issues of how the kill went down. Then the dude steals Deb's gun in episode 2 and it get put in evidence, I figure okay I was wrong. Wow is it gonna come out that Deb shot Laguerta??!

Nope, they totally forgot about that and were worried about something else. I love Dexter but I can't help thinking that everything has been too easy recently, unplanned heat of the moment kills and bad situations are easily resolved with bullshit and lies even when there is obvious evidence.
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
July 08 2013 17:36 GMT
#5755
On July 09 2013 02:18 exKid wrote:
So, forgive me if I'm wrong, but at the end of season 7:
Deb walks in, draws HER gun, shoots Laguerta.

So, at first I thought this was a dumb and they weren't gonna mention it and just gloss over a lot of evidence and issues of how the kill went down. Then the dude steals Deb's gun in episode 2 and it get put in evidence, I figure okay I was wrong. Wow is it gonna come out that Deb shot Laguerta??!

Nope, they totally forgot about that and were worried about something else. I love Dexter but I can't help thinking that everything has been too easy recently, unplanned heat of the moment kills and bad situations are easily resolved with bullshit and lies even when there is obvious evidence.


And you weren't at all fussed about Dexter killing Lila in Paris or killing that gangster guy in the airport? Because that was way less believable to me tbh.
karpotoss
Profile Joined November 2012
135 Posts
July 08 2013 17:59 GMT
#5756
On July 09 2013 02:12 Rebornlife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 00:18 NPF wrote:
On July 09 2013 00:10 Figgy wrote:
From the preview it looks like Vogul is going to try to get Dexter to kill Deb... Good luck with that one BITCH!

No way she isn't evil.


She isn't evil, she's just a real psychopath, unlike Dexter, who built barriers around his emotions, that are slowly crumbling down throughout the seasons we've been watching him.


^^Yes

When she saw the video of the murder I thought she was conveying genuine shock and disgust, I don't think she is the killer. I do think she is telling a great lie rooted in the truth that a patient of hers is doing it, whether or not she is controlling him or working with him is yet to be seen.


I don't know if u were here during season 6, but it was very fast figured out that the professor guy is dead. Since then we were debating if it's true or not because of some ridiculous shit like when travis got knocked out with the shovel apparently by himself. When the big twist comes that Vogel is the architect of all those murders, writers expect us to go like: "omg, what a twist!!!" instead of "come on i really hoped that you wouldn't sink that low, this doesn't make sense, what about the time when..."

"omg dexter someone is in my house" - no one is in the house - "omg whats' that? is that a dvd? what could it be? let's see it"

It's obvious that this woman is fucking crazy with psychopath affirmation, she probably also wants dexter's dick with all the hugging.
She is going to end on dexter's table by the end of this season at episode 10 i guess and we will still have some funny shit going down last 2 episodes.

exKid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 18:05:51
July 08 2013 18:04 GMT
#5757
On July 09 2013 02:36 Serelitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 02:18 exKid wrote:
So, forgive me if I'm wrong, but at the end of season 7:
Deb walks in, draws HER gun, shoots Laguerta.

So, at first I thought this was a dumb and they weren't gonna mention it and just gloss over a lot of evidence and issues of how the kill went down. Then the dude steals Deb's gun in episode 2 and it get put in evidence, I figure okay I was wrong. Wow is it gonna come out that Deb shot Laguerta??!

Nope, they totally forgot about that and were worried about something else. I love Dexter but I can't help thinking that everything has been too easy recently, unplanned heat of the moment kills and bad situations are easily resolved with bullshit and lies even when there is obvious evidence.


And you weren't at all fussed about Dexter killing Lila in Paris or killing that gangster guy in the airport? Because that was way less believable to me tbh.


I don't remember Lila fully, wasn't that just an injection while she was laying on a sofa? Nothing wrong with that. Viktor was also a planned kill, there was even a full kill room in the airport. I can accept that Dexter has been doing this a long time and has the knowledge and ability to plan kills and leave little evidence. I admit that doing it in such a high security place like an airport is pushing it, but again wasn't it inside some kind of construction area?

What I find harder to believe are the events when there is no planning or precautions against leaving evidence, i.e. shooting the police Captain with your own registered gun or having a fight with a guy in a hotel room [leaving potential blood/DNA at the scene] and stabbing him and getting off because Deb say's "I went for a sandwich and when I came back he was dead". These feel a bit more lazy.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
July 08 2013 18:05 GMT
#5758
On July 09 2013 02:36 Serelitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 02:18 exKid wrote:
So, forgive me if I'm wrong, but at the end of season 7:
Deb walks in, draws HER gun, shoots Laguerta.

So, at first I thought this was a dumb and they weren't gonna mention it and just gloss over a lot of evidence and issues of how the kill went down. Then the dude steals Deb's gun in episode 2 and it get put in evidence, I figure okay I was wrong. Wow is it gonna come out that Deb shot Laguerta??!

Nope, they totally forgot about that and were worried about something else. I love Dexter but I can't help thinking that everything has been too easy recently, unplanned heat of the moment kills and bad situations are easily resolved with bullshit and lies even when there is obvious evidence.


And you weren't at all fussed about Dexter killing Lila in Paris or killing that gangster guy in the airport? Because that was way less believable to me tbh.


The airport killing was surreal. So many impossible moving pieces in that one, I was just like "alright screw it, this show has officially driven off of a cliff."
We found Dove in a soapless place.
lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
July 08 2013 18:56 GMT
#5759
On July 09 2013 03:05 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 02:36 Serelitz wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:18 exKid wrote:
So, forgive me if I'm wrong, but at the end of season 7:
Deb walks in, draws HER gun, shoots Laguerta.

So, at first I thought this was a dumb and they weren't gonna mention it and just gloss over a lot of evidence and issues of how the kill went down. Then the dude steals Deb's gun in episode 2 and it get put in evidence, I figure okay I was wrong. Wow is it gonna come out that Deb shot Laguerta??!

Nope, they totally forgot about that and were worried about something else. I love Dexter but I can't help thinking that everything has been too easy recently, unplanned heat of the moment kills and bad situations are easily resolved with bullshit and lies even when there is obvious evidence.


And you weren't at all fussed about Dexter killing Lila in Paris or killing that gangster guy in the airport? Because that was way less believable to me tbh.


The airport killing was surreal. So many impossible moving pieces in that one, I was just like "alright screw it, this show has officially driven off of a cliff."


To be fair, Dexter isn't really the show to watch if you're looking for consistent, painstakingly realistic and great writing like The Wire. It gets really cartoony at times.
Nahsom
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria361 Posts
July 08 2013 19:40 GMT
#5760
On July 09 2013 03:05 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 02:36 Serelitz wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:18 exKid wrote:
So, forgive me if I'm wrong, but at the end of season 7:
Deb walks in, draws HER gun, shoots Laguerta.

So, at first I thought this was a dumb and they weren't gonna mention it and just gloss over a lot of evidence and issues of how the kill went down. Then the dude steals Deb's gun in episode 2 and it get put in evidence, I figure okay I was wrong. Wow is it gonna come out that Deb shot Laguerta??!

Nope, they totally forgot about that and were worried about something else. I love Dexter but I can't help thinking that everything has been too easy recently, unplanned heat of the moment kills and bad situations are easily resolved with bullshit and lies even when there is obvious evidence.


And you weren't at all fussed about Dexter killing Lila in Paris or killing that gangster guy in the airport? Because that was way less believable to me tbh.


The airport killing was surreal. So many impossible moving pieces in that one, I was just like "alright screw it, this show has officially driven off of a cliff."


Or the one time he got a guy in the car trunk in front of a park during daylight.
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