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On December 17 2012 16:08 1Dhalism wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 15:57 Daumen wrote:
Holy shit ... :D got excited but 1 thing REALLY irritated me...
Why would LaGuerta go to the Port ALONE?! The first time she had Backup-officers ... now she got a CALL from a Missing (presumed Dead) guy that calls for help, yet she goes there alone? wtf?
Thats bad writing I guess °_° that flaw was maybe inevitable to let the story continue that way. because everyone thinks she framed dexter and she's on the verge of getting fired. Of course she woulndt call for backup. Also i'm not sure whether dexters self sacrificial acting is genuine or the typical sociopathic manipulation, playing on Debra's feelings for him.
Its bad writing. She knew it was a trap and yet she doesnt call for backup?
The writers basically wanted to set up a scenario where Deb had to choose between her brother or doing whats right. Pretty exciting scenario except for the fact that Laguerta was unarmed and Dexter was about to kill her before Deb showed up. Deb didnt have to kill Laguerta but instead of walking away and let Dexter do his thing she killed her anyway. Why? Dont ask questions thats why.
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On December 17 2012 18:59 GolemMadness wrote:
Still find it kinda ridiculous that Hannah poisoned Deb like that. I mean, in the most obvious way possible when it's almost guaranteed she'll get caught by Dexter and there's like no chance of it actually killing her? What?
This this this!
It really bothered me! Hannah has been portrayed as a much too intelligent person to do that, unless she wanted to force an ultimatum on him, she did mention he had a choice.
The episode was fine imo, not as epic as the preview would have you believe though.. I really don't think they should let the LaGuerta thing slide, I mean.. There's too much evidence there, it's also too convinient. Maybe Matthews picks up the slacks?
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On December 17 2012 20:43 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 18:12 LazerApe wrote:
Is it just me or are they setting up batista to be one of the main antagonist in season 8? Naw, he's had his chance to suspect Dexter many seasons ago. He's officially retired, and even if he wasn't, I think it's obvious enough that he and Masuka haven been written as feel-good prop characters for several seasons now, which makes them immune to anything relevant to the main plot. The only one who might go after Dexter next season is Matthews, but I kind of doubt it.
I think that will be exactly it. Sure they had a lot of pointless characters, but they raised matthews from retirement, they even put him in a suit and brought him back to the police office.
And it would make the whole circle of things complete. He hid Dexter's "birth" (in that container) from everyone, and now it will be his to expose him.
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On December 18 2012 01:44 Neino wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 18:59 GolemMadness wrote:
Still find it kinda ridiculous that Hannah poisoned Deb like that. I mean, in the most obvious way possible when it's almost guaranteed she'll get caught by Dexter and there's like no chance of it actually killing her? What? This this this! It really bothered me! Hannah has been portrayed as a much too intelligent person to do that, unless she wanted to force an ultimatum on him, she did mention he had a choice.
In the past i've done things and said it could never have been me because i would never do something that stupid, and gotten away with them. It works quite well, in the right situation..
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On December 18 2012 01:32 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 16:08 1Dhalism wrote:On December 17 2012 15:57 Daumen wrote:
Holy shit ... :D got excited but 1 thing REALLY irritated me...
Why would LaGuerta go to the Port ALONE?! The first time she had Backup-officers ... now she got a CALL from a Missing (presumed Dead) guy that calls for help, yet she goes there alone? wtf?
Thats bad writing I guess °_° that flaw was maybe inevitable to let the story continue that way. because everyone thinks she framed dexter and she's on the verge of getting fired. Of course she woulndt call for backup. Also i'm not sure whether dexters self sacrificial acting is genuine or the typical sociopathic manipulation, playing on Debra's feelings for him. Its bad writing. She knew it was a trap and yet she doesnt call for backup? The writers basically wanted to set up a scenario where Deb had to choose between her brother or doing whats right. Pretty exciting scenario except for the fact that Laguerta was unarmed and Dexter was about to kill her before Deb showed up. Deb didnt have to kill Laguerta but instead of walking away and let Dexter do his thing she killed her anyway. Why? Dont ask questions thats why.
No. Just think about it. You already sent police out for a witchhunt in these containers before. There is evidence that you stole and planted evidence and framed your colleague. You are on the verge of losing your job, and last time i checked framing someone is a crime for which you can get to jail for.
And then you call for backup to help you arrest the person you have framed just the day before? Nono. It's a crywolf where if she cries wolf one more time her life is ruined(and she is a police officer with a gun).
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On December 18 2012 01:44 Neino wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 18:59 GolemMadness wrote:
Still find it kinda ridiculous that Hannah poisoned Deb like that. I mean, in the most obvious way possible when it's almost guaranteed she'll get caught by Dexter and there's like no chance of it actually killing her? What? This this this! It really bothered me! Hannah has been portrayed as a much too intelligent person to do that, unless she wanted to force an ultimatum on him, she did mention he had a choice. The episode was fine imo, not as epic as the preview would have you believe though.. I really don't think they should let the LaGuerta thing slide, I mean.. There's too much evidence there, it's also too convinient. Maybe Matthews picks up the slacks?
Based on what do you think Hannah was portrayed intelligently.
Apart from her husband's murder, she has been sloppy, using the same poison everyone by then was aware of, would have got caught killing reporter, if not for dexter, almost got duped by her father.
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On December 17 2012 11:40 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I think Debra did it. The way Hannah said "you should have killed me" was just way too emotionally powerful. I'd be really surprised if it didn't turn out to be Debra framing her.
LOL. Looks like you were surprised, motherfucker.
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On December 17 2012 12:03 Ian Ian Ian wrote:
Explaining away Laguerta dieing is going to be SO difficult with the shitstorm thats been going down
How hard would it be to just dispose of both their bodies.
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On December 17 2012 17:13 HawaiianPig wrote:Also: - Deb called dispatch about where Laguerta is.
- Deb also left a message on Dexter's phone.
- Deb fired a police issued weapon, and every bullet the police fire has to be accounted for.
- Deb sobbed and junk all over Laguerta's face. With the forensic magic they do on this show, that could easily link her.
How on earth are they going to cover this up
they dispose of the body dexter's way...and then it's just the bullet :S
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On December 18 2012 02:15 Miami Metro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 12:03 Ian Ian Ian wrote:
Explaining away Laguerta dieing is going to be SO difficult with the shitstorm thats been going down How hard would it be to just dispose of both their bodies.
Yeah but even so..."I think Dexter is the Bay Harbor Butcher!" *next day goes missing* does raise some suspicions.
My ultimate prediction for the series is that Dexter gets away with everything and gives up killing. He honestly doesn't even seem to be enjoying it anymore, his last few kills have been out of necessity, and he finally got revenge on the last man alive who was involved with his mother's murder. With everything that's happened, it seems like a good wake-up call to go straight.
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On December 18 2012 01:44 Neino wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 18:59 GolemMadness wrote:
Still find it kinda ridiculous that Hannah poisoned Deb like that. I mean, in the most obvious way possible when it's almost guaranteed she'll get caught by Dexter and there's like no chance of it actually killing her? What? This this this! It really bothered me! Hannah has been portrayed as a much too intelligent person to do that, unless she wanted to force an ultimatum on him, she did mention he had a choice. The episode was fine imo, not as epic as the preview would have you believe though.. I really don't think they should let the LaGuerta thing slide, I mean.. There's too much evidence there, it's also too convinient. Maybe Matthews picks up the slacks?
You better get on your knees and start kissing anything that even closely resembles an ass. And how is it that Deb isn't notified immediately when Hannah escapes? You'd think they'd deal to that shit.
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On December 18 2012 02:02 1Dhalism wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 01:32 Bowzar wrote:On December 17 2012 16:08 1Dhalism wrote:On December 17 2012 15:57 Daumen wrote:
Holy shit ... :D got excited but 1 thing REALLY irritated me...
Why would LaGuerta go to the Port ALONE?! The first time she had Backup-officers ... now she got a CALL from a Missing (presumed Dead) guy that calls for help, yet she goes there alone? wtf?
Thats bad writing I guess °_° that flaw was maybe inevitable to let the story continue that way. because everyone thinks she framed dexter and she's on the verge of getting fired. Of course she woulndt call for backup. Also i'm not sure whether dexters self sacrificial acting is genuine or the typical sociopathic manipulation, playing on Debra's feelings for him. Its bad writing. She knew it was a trap and yet she doesnt call for backup? The writers basically wanted to set up a scenario where Deb had to choose between her brother or doing whats right. Pretty exciting scenario except for the fact that Laguerta was unarmed and Dexter was about to kill her before Deb showed up. Deb didnt have to kill Laguerta but instead of walking away and let Dexter do his thing she killed her anyway. Why? Dont ask questions thats why. No. Just think about it. You already sent police out for a witchhunt in these containers before. There is evidence that you stole and planted evidence and framed your colleague. You are on the verge of losing your job, and last time i checked framing someone is a crime for which you can get to jail for. And then you call for backup to help you arrest the person you have framed just the day before? Nono. It's a crywolf where if she cries wolf one more time her life is ruined(and she is a police officer with a gun).
She didnt have to mention Dexter. Call for backup and say that you got a call from a man that is presumed to be dead and that he is asking for help. Worst case scenario is that she will become the main suspect for the murder of Estrada but atleast she wont be dead.
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On December 18 2012 02:23 Darkthorn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 17:13 HawaiianPig wrote:Also: - Deb called dispatch about where Laguerta is.
- Deb also left a message on Dexter's phone.
- Deb fired a police issued weapon, and every bullet the police fire has to be accounted for.
- Deb sobbed and junk all over Laguerta's face. With the forensic magic they do on this show, that could easily link her.
How on earth are they going to cover this up they dispose of the body dexter's way...and then it's just the bullet :S
And everybody knows that the bhb is still alive, like laguerta said. She even got a court order to track their phones, signed by a judge, that cant just 'disappear'.
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On December 18 2012 02:33 graan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 02:23 Darkthorn wrote:On December 17 2012 17:13 HawaiianPig wrote:Also: - Deb called dispatch about where Laguerta is.
- Deb also left a message on Dexter's phone.
- Deb fired a police issued weapon, and every bullet the police fire has to be accounted for.
- Deb sobbed and junk all over Laguerta's face. With the forensic magic they do on this show, that could easily link her.
How on earth are they going to cover this up they dispose of the body dexter's way...and then it's just the bullet :S And everybody knows that the bhb is still alive, like laguerta said. She even got a court order to track their phones, signed by a judge, that cant just 'disappear'.
Correction. She got a court order get the stored GPS data from two phones months ago. Apparently in the world of Dexter every phone constantly transmits their GPS data (a huge battery drain) and phone companies store all of this information. The technology would also have to be very new or else there would be no logical explanation for Miami Metro to never have used it in the past. Unless of course the show is full of plot holes.
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On December 18 2012 03:11 pookums wrote:
Correction. She got a court order get the stored GPS data from two phones months ago. Apparently in the world of Dexter every phone constantly transmits their GPS data (a huge battery drain) and phone companies store all of this information. The technology would also have to be very new or else there would be no logical explanation for Miami Metro to never have used it in the past. Unless of course the show is full of plot holes.
Check this link (press play):
http://www.zeit.de/datenschutz/malte-spitz-vorratsdaten
It's in german, but you should get the idea.
Mobile operators stores much more info about us that You would think. (Not thats its avaible without court order)
EDIT: http://www.zeit.de/datenschutz/malte-spitz-data-retention <- English version of link above
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I'm so dissappointed I just.... Even with the terrible writing already, the finale had a chance to be really cool, but I suppose it's just stupid of me to expect the writers to stop throwing out shit when they've been doing it for 3? seasons now.
Hannah poisoning Deb was just boring and totally killed her story(well she might come in for 1 episode somewhere, but there is nothing interesting about her character/arc anymore). Then Dex chasing the guy's ex... Could he be any more obvious? Then tranq in middle of daylight of what seems like decently popular street(aswell as getting kids to help him, are they not going to watch what happens?). Then the end... I just... I think I still watch this show just because I have nothing to watch on mondays if i stop.
Edit: And GPS for their phone a year later...? I have never really thought about it, but surely that is not normal, unless you personally handle the GPS history...?
Edit#2: Best thing to come from this episode was Doakes and that they gave us some reason Doakes was onto Dex.
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On December 18 2012 01:07 Nausea wrote:
Well this was another season amounting to absolutely nothing. What a waste of time this series has become.
How the actual fuck did it not amount to anything? Deb killed LaGuerta.
What should it amount to?
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On December 18 2012 03:43 yeint wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 01:07 Nausea wrote:
Well this was another season amounting to absolutely nothing. What a waste of time this series has become. How the actual fuck did it not amount to anything? Deb killed LaGuerta. What should it amount to?
LaGuerta actually being Banes super secret lover, and him retaliating by blowing up Miami. But only after exposing Dexter and Deb and watch the witch hunt for a couple of months.
Duh
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Deb is quite likely the most fucked up person in the world, dating serial killers, having all her boyfriends murdered, finding out her brother is the butcher, and now slowly destroying her moral code to have it explode into oblivion.
Also, Deb called dispatch and asked for LeGuerta's position directly before she was killed and she used her own gun so she is fucked.
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When i saw Doakes again and he said surprise motherfucker i had tears of joy in my eyes.
The memories....
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