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On December 18 2012 02:31 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 02:02 1Dhalism wrote:On December 18 2012 01:32 Bowzar wrote:On December 17 2012 16:08 1Dhalism wrote:On December 17 2012 15:57 Daumen wrote:
Holy shit ... :D got excited but 1 thing REALLY irritated me...
Why would LaGuerta go to the Port ALONE?! The first time she had Backup-officers ... now she got a CALL from a Missing (presumed Dead) guy that calls for help, yet she goes there alone? wtf?
Thats bad writing I guess °_° that flaw was maybe inevitable to let the story continue that way. because everyone thinks she framed dexter and she's on the verge of getting fired. Of course she woulndt call for backup. Also i'm not sure whether dexters self sacrificial acting is genuine or the typical sociopathic manipulation, playing on Debra's feelings for him. Its bad writing. She knew it was a trap and yet she doesnt call for backup? The writers basically wanted to set up a scenario where Deb had to choose between her brother or doing whats right. Pretty exciting scenario except for the fact that Laguerta was unarmed and Dexter was about to kill her before Deb showed up. Deb didnt have to kill Laguerta but instead of walking away and let Dexter do his thing she killed her anyway. Why? Dont ask questions thats why. No. Just think about it. You already sent police out for a witchhunt in these containers before. There is evidence that you stole and planted evidence and framed your colleague. You are on the verge of losing your job, and last time i checked framing someone is a crime for which you can get to jail for. And then you call for backup to help you arrest the person you have framed just the day before? Nono. It's a crywolf where if she cries wolf one more time her life is ruined(and she is a police officer with a gun). She didnt have to mention Dexter. Call for backup and say that you got a call from a man that is presumed to be dead and that he is asking for help. Worst case scenario is that she will become the main suspect for the murder of Estrada but atleast she wont be dead.
Of course there are better solutions. There are always better solutions. However LaGuerta not calling for backup is 100% plausible.
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Poll: Best Season1 (51) 38% 4 (38) 28% 2 (18) 13% 7 (17) 13% 5 (7) 5% 3 (3) 2% 6 (0) 0% 134 total votes Your vote: Best Season (Vote): 1
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On December 18 2012 05:22 Figgy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 04:26 Nausea wrote:On December 18 2012 03:43 yeint wrote:On December 18 2012 01:07 Nausea wrote:
Well this was another season amounting to absolutely nothing. What a waste of time this series has become. How the actual fuck did it not amount to anything? Deb killed LaGuerta. What should it amount to? So the concept of getting into trouble almost getting caught and then magically getting out of that in the span of 2 episodes counts as amounting to anything? It´s such shitty writing and boring plot development. Maybe just maybe move the show forward in some way instead of resetting it every god damn season finale. What what what what??? 1 main character (Laquerta) and 2 side characters (Mike Anderson, Computer geek guy) died this season. One main character (Angel) is now retired. Deb found out everything about Dexter (She didn't know shit pre-season 7). Dexter decides F the code, I'll kill to save myself. Deb kills an innocent person. DEXTER GETS ARRESTED FOR BEING WHAT HE IS. What do you expect to happen to further the story? Seriously? Does Dexter have to go to prison for realz 4 seasons in a row to appease you? Does he need to start shooting people with a gun? Does he need to start using Drone strikes on his target as his new method of killing? How would they even continue the series? Tons of stuff happened this season. Just lots of people want to cover their eyes.
Tons of stuff happened, that doesnt change a thing. Or well, some actors are looking for a new job. What does it matter if everyone finds out about dexter when it doesnt change anything. Debra found out, nothing happens. Dexter keeps on living his dream, working, taking care of his kids etc. Ye people find out and nothing happens, who cares if Laquerta found out? If nothing comes of it, what does it matter? Doakes found out, nothing happened. Over and over and over again, it doesnt matter. So exciting , oooh he is gonna find out, boom dead. ohh she is gonna find out, boom dead. Oh they are gonna find out...oh they fell for planted evidence and bad made up stories for the 10th time.
It would be fun if for once the police in the series isnt completely stupid and cant calculate 2+2. Give it at least 1% realism.
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On December 18 2012 04:26 Nausea wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 03:43 yeint wrote:On December 18 2012 01:07 Nausea wrote:
Well this was another season amounting to absolutely nothing. What a waste of time this series has become. How the actual fuck did it not amount to anything? Deb killed LaGuerta. What should it amount to? So the concept of getting into trouble almost getting caught and then magically getting out of that in the span of 2 episodes counts as amounting to anything? It´s such shitty writing and boring plot development. Maybe just maybe move the show forward in some way instead of resetting it every god damn season finale.
I don't think I understand your concept of the word "reset".
Last season finale - Deb finds out about Dexter, and they don't clean up well enough, tipping off LaGuerta. The entire following season deals with Deb coming to terms with her knowledge, and LaGuerta's investigation into Dexter.
This season finale - Deb murders LaGuerta with her police issue weapon after calling dispatch and asking where LaGuerta was.
I must be blind for not seeing the obvious trend which leads you to believe none of this will be addressed next season.
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Yeah I think the only thing he will accept is Dexter being caught, anything else doesn't seem to matter. I see the point, I just don't agree with it - too much has changed for this to be considered a reset.
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On December 18 2012 04:36 Nausea wrote:
I mean they don´t even move the show to the point where the police is hunting him.
They will never move the show to that point. It doesn't need to get to that point. Dexter will not turn into Prison Break season 2.
If you're expecting that, you're off your rocker. If Dexter is ever found out for real, you can be sure you're watching the finale of the final season.
Dexter is, and has always been, an unabashed superhero trope story with a twist. He's not Hannibal Lector, he's Batman.
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I really enjoyed the finale. Loved the Doakes flashbacks and miss him in the show. At the end Deb is put in an extremely complicated scenario and that was a great scene. I'm pumped to see the final season and how everything goes down.
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On December 17 2012 12:35 MetalPanda wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 11:40 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I think Debra did it. The way Hannah said "you should have killed me" was just way too emotionally powerful. I'd be really surprised if it didn't turn out to be Debra framing her. Dexter gave Debra the proof she needed to arrest Hannah for a crime she did commit.
I was talking about the "poisoning of Deb".
Unfortunately, I turned out to be wrong because Hannah actually did do it.
Really disappointed with the finale as a whole. The only redeemable part of it was how dark of a turn it took.
Those flashbacks really reminded me how careful the show used to be. It seemed like it used to legitimately be a good guide on how to murder someone and get away with it. Now, it's just Dexter has become a super stealth ninja capable of going around killing anyone in broad daylight and the lack of plastic in general just reeks of DNA evidence.
Unfortunately, the factually darker tone is somewhat undermined by the way it is executed.
On December 18 2012 01:32 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 16:08 1Dhalism wrote:On December 17 2012 15:57 Daumen wrote:
Holy shit ... :D got excited but 1 thing REALLY irritated me...
Why would LaGuerta go to the Port ALONE?! The first time she had Backup-officers ... now she got a CALL from a Missing (presumed Dead) guy that calls for help, yet she goes there alone? wtf?
Thats bad writing I guess °_° that flaw was maybe inevitable to let the story continue that way. because everyone thinks she framed dexter and she's on the verge of getting fired. Of course she woulndt call for backup. Also i'm not sure whether dexters self sacrificial acting is genuine or the typical sociopathic manipulation, playing on Debra's feelings for him. Its bad writing. She knew it was a trap and yet she doesnt call for backup? The writers basically wanted to set up a scenario where Deb had to choose between her brother or doing whats right. Pretty exciting scenario except for the fact that Laguerta was unarmed and Dexter was about to kill her before Deb showed up. Deb didnt have to kill Laguerta but instead of walking away and let Dexter do his thing she killed her anyway. Why? Dont ask questions thats why.
What are you basing "she knew it was a trap" on? There is no evidence of that at all.
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Really liked this season. (Hated the previous one, especially once we know Travis is the killer it start to become stupid).
Of course, as in almost every Dexter seasons, there are plot holes and the police just suck. But hey that was to be expected, if you're really pissed about that maybe stop watching... because by the 7th season you should be used to it. Both the arcs with Isaac and Hannah were interesting as to how it reflects back on Dexter moral ground. Dexter and Deb finally evolved drastically and the next season will certainly exploit on that, either in a "downspiral" way or in a "redemption" way.
Almost every episodes were interesting and I didn't feel it was too slow at any point (while I usually do in the other seasons). Great season for me, probably my best or close to.
My only annoyance is that the show (and Dexter) should become a bit more careful as it is sometimes a bit TOO much unrealistic how he gets away with stuff (kidnapping people in day light near a park ?).
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On December 18 2012 06:56 rezoacken wrote:
Really liked this season. (Hated the previous one, especially once we know Travis is the killer it start to become stupid).
Agreed, I liked this season and hated the last as well.
Season 4 will forever be the best, in my opinion.
Season 8 has to suck, either Dexter gets the chair (they do have the death penalty in Florida, don't they?) or they do some lame Shawshank ripoff.
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On December 18 2012 06:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 01:32 Bowzar wrote:On December 17 2012 16:08 1Dhalism wrote:On December 17 2012 15:57 Daumen wrote:
Holy shit ... :D got excited but 1 thing REALLY irritated me...
Why would LaGuerta go to the Port ALONE?! The first time she had Backup-officers ... now she got a CALL from a Missing (presumed Dead) guy that calls for help, yet she goes there alone? wtf?
Thats bad writing I guess °_° that flaw was maybe inevitable to let the story continue that way. because everyone thinks she framed dexter and she's on the verge of getting fired. Of course she woulndt call for backup. Also i'm not sure whether dexters self sacrificial acting is genuine or the typical sociopathic manipulation, playing on Debra's feelings for him. Its bad writing. She knew it was a trap and yet she doesnt call for backup? The writers basically wanted to set up a scenario where Deb had to choose between her brother or doing whats right. Pretty exciting scenario except for the fact that Laguerta was unarmed and Dexter was about to kill her before Deb showed up. Deb didnt have to kill Laguerta but instead of walking away and let Dexter do his thing she killed her anyway. Why? Dont ask questions thats why. What are you basing "she knew it was a trap" on? There is no evidence of that at all.
Common sense, I guess. You let a guy out of jail assuming he's going to be murdered, he calls you from inside a shipping container asking for help, it's not because he's trying to move a heavy coffee table. She at least knew Dexter was somewhere nearby.
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What happened with the arsonist murderer, did they ever find out who he was?
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Yvonne Strahovski, good actress.
I don't think they will give this show a satisfying ending next season.
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On December 18 2012 07:14 Melter wrote:
What happened with the arsonist murderer, did they ever find out who he was?
they caught him in like episode10 if i remember correct
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On December 18 2012 07:16 FatFo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 07:14 Melter wrote:
What happened with the arsonist murderer, did they ever find out who he was? they caught him in like episode10 if i remember correct
You are correct. Dexter finds him, ties him, has a change of heart and give him to the police. That arc felt disapointing, at least it was pretty minor in the season.
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Was reading through the comments, and I'm really surprised by that poll. Granted, Season 1 was phenomenal, but I still feel Season 4 was the best, with 1 coming in a very close second. After that, 2+5 are tied, and 3, 6, and 7 don't really matter to me.
The ending was such an obvious potential ending, but it was a powerful one nonetheless. More importantly, the dumb bitch is back out there now. WHY U NO KILL HER DEXTER.
I also wonder who will be the adversary next season. Will Matthews find it all suspicious and look into it himself as well? Don't think Quinn will be back in on it, though if he hooks up with Angel's sister, that may become a possibility.
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Season 8: Dexter kills his whole family and moves to another city that contains the craziest serial killer of all time, finale is an epic showdown. Best. Ending. Ever. Writing is so easy.
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The stupidest thing Dexter can do at this point is to leave the body (considering the bullet in it).
I believe his/their best bet at getting away with it now is to cut up Lageurta and dump her in the ocean. Then it looks like she killed Estrada and then ran away, which would make sense as people would think she tried to frame dexter again and screwed up--Laguerta's bullet is still in him. Cleaning up the blood and dumping the body would be a trivial issue.
In for next season's Quinn and Batista (and Matthews?) to be final bosses and defeat Dexter. He'll go out Light-style from Death Note.
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On December 18 2012 07:14 Xxio wrote:
Yvonne Strahovski, good actress.
I don't think they will give this show a satisfying ending next season.
Agreed on point 1, hopefully not on point 2.
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On December 18 2012 08:07 ShangMing wrote:
The stupidest thing Dexter can do at this point is to leave the body (considering the bullet in it).
I believe his/their best bet at getting away with it now is to cut up Lageurta and dump her in the ocean. Then it looks like she killed Estrada and then ran away, which would make sense as people would think she tried to frame dexter again and screwed up--Laguerta's bullet is still in him. Cleaning up the blood and dumping the body would be a trivial issue.
In for next season's Quinn and Batista (and Matthews?) to be final bosses and defeat Dexter. He'll go out Light-style from Death Note.
This is what i figure will happen in season 8 if they have to explain it. Leave the dead guy and make it look like LeGuerta ran from the scene after shooting him. Ezpz
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