EPT[TV] The Legend of Korra - Page 247
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Hyperbola
United States2551 Posts
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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parkufarku
882 Posts
On November 30 2014 03:37 Hyperbola wrote: The problem isn't that the past lives were erased. The problem is that Korra is the most incompetent Avatar in history. Worst personality and the least amount of talent. Aang could have defeated Unalaq, Amon and Zaheer without breaking a sweat. Korra is simply a third-rate bender that screwed the entire world up by: a. deleting her past lives b. merging the spirit and corporeal world c. indirectly creating Kuvira Not only does she lack any sort of bending talent, she also has the personality and intelligence of someone half her age. Korra is without a shred of doubt the worst character in the entire series. God I feel the same way. I saw the posts below arguing against this, and I'll add this bit to it. Power-wise, Aang is stronger at a younger age (Avatar-state, Regular-State, etc. He almost beat a powered up Ozai if he chose to redirect lightning. He can use the big airball to fly around, etc.) But the important thing is the spiritual aspect and personality to it. Korra has almost no spiritual connection (recently made one but still not nearly as connected as Aang), and she has been told to train it but she has often dismissed it. She has very low wisdom compared to Aang. She makes decisions based on emotions and often gets mad when things don't go her away, and tries to use force too often. Look at what avatar is supposed to do, bring balance to the world. Unite the 4 nations and serve as a peacekeeper. Obvious traits needed for this type of role would be good communication (not getting angry easily), patience, ability to appease both sides, rational decision-making, etc. All of which Korra lacks. Aang is so much more superior to Korra in these areas by miles. I think Korra is really popular with the recent teens / female viewers (can relate more to her) but you guys should be easily able to spot her flaws. She's just not fit to be the avatar. | ||
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
So maybe she was all that, but the point of the series is that she can change, and she did. Things are very different from the time Aang lived, from the time any avatar lived. There never was a united republic, only 4 seperated nations. The avatar, at least according to Wan's goal, was supposed to be the mediator between both humans and spirits, but also between the four nations, and now that they gather at one table and plan their strategy, the avatar isnt invited. I think she is justified feeling mad and betrayed by Tenzin. | ||
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Fi0na
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On November 30 2014 08:03 Warri wrote: Maybe, but what exactly is your point arguing that before the series concluded? Aang ran away because he didnt want to be seperated from his old friend. Aang was impatient and burned Kataras hands. Aang couldnt defeat a powerless Azula in time during the eclipse. So maybe she was all that, but the point of the series is that she can change, and she did. Things are very different from the time Aang lived, from the time any avatar lived. There never was a united republic, only 4 seperated nations. The avatar, at least according to Wan's goal, was supposed to be the mediator between both humans and spirits, but also between the four nations, and now that they gather at one table and plan their strategy, the avatar isnt invited. I think she is justified feeling mad and betrayed by Tenzin. the point is: Aang was a child but it felt like he was becoming a reasonable and responsible adult over time. Korra feels immature all the way so far. And I'm fairly sure the voice actress is playing quite the role (and the haircut, I hate it :p ). Just like Ginora doesn't feel like a wiser person at all, more like someone who found out about being smart in one area and thinks she's got it all. Korra ignoring the spirit who was trying to help her, being impatient in the swamp, thinking she is back to full power and has to face Kuvira head on for the sake of a city when she isn't in any way capable of fighting again, going to Zaheer just to tell to his face that she is over him while clearly not being over him, the weird approach to Asami (red cheeks and only writing letters to her), running away for a long time at the start of the season to cut her hair and fail in underground fights, the lack of cameradery towards team avatar and a few more things all made me not being able to really identify with her at all. Aang sure was way better than that. | ||
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parkufarku
882 Posts
Aang was already mature for his age and fit the personality needs of an Avatar from Day 1 but lacking certain aspects. By the time Season 3 ended, he was well qualified to be one, have grown wiser & stronger, experienced character development by finding a way to fight past his pacificist vows. Korra was horrid at Day 1 and after 4 seasons, her character failed to grow, she was immature and lacking as she ever was. We gave Aang 3 seasons and he had already matured well enough to be more than qualified. We gave Korra 4 seasons and she still hasn't even become half-qualified with her bratty personality. That's my answer to your theory. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
Either way, Korra's closeness to Asami is not a negative aspect of her, not sure why'd you list it as such. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On November 30 2014 09:14 Fi0na wrote: the point is: Aang was a child but it felt like he was becoming a reasonable and responsible adult over time. Korra feels immature all the way so far. And I'm fairly sure the voice actress is playing quite the role (and the haircut, I hate it :p ). Just like Ginora doesn't feel like a wiser person at all, more like someone who found out about being smart in one area and thinks she's got it all. Korra ignoring the spirit who was trying to help her, being impatient in the swamp, thinking she is back to full power and has to face Kuvira head on for the sake of a city when she isn't in any way capable of fighting again, going to Zaheer just to tell to his face that she is over him while clearly not being over him, the weird approach to Asami (red cheeks and only writing letters to her), running away for a long time at the start of the season to cut her hair and fail in underground fights, the lack of cameradery towards team avatar and a few more things all made me not being able to really identify with her at all. Aang sure was way better than that. Korra didn't ignore the spirit. She didn't think it could help her. She did remove the metal before fighting Kuvira, but Kuvira's a strong bender. I guess she couldn't win without the Avatar State and there were still actual mental block telling her she wasn't good enough. If she did beat Kuvira then, it'd have been a short season. She was right to be impatient in the swamp. But she wasn't getting help and was instead just getting beaten up. That's expected. Talking to Zaheer was stupid. But it worked out. They should have just gone with the original intent that she wanted to see him chained up. To tell her mind the fear was irrational. A lot of people only write to their closest friends when they're hospitalized. She felt closer to Asami, possibly because they're both girls, than to Mako and Bolin and yeah that's mean and childish if Mako and Bolin were reaching out to her. The red cheeks thing is just shyness (and fanservice), I've seen many people get red cheeks just from you talking to them. Her running away from Republic City can be justified by her vision of the spirit in her mind she was trying to avoid. It'd have been best for her to grab some supplies to return home, or at least to write honest letters. Oh well. She's pretty adamant about acting tough in front of everyone. Korra has many flaws, as do Mako and Bolin, but they seem more real because of it. Honestly they don't focus on the flaws enough. Bolin doesn't grapple at all with how his trust gets taken advantage of. And she was raised in a bubble with the sole goal of making her into the world's savior. That can mess with people's heads. We don't see Korra having any real friends in the South. | ||
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weikor
Austria580 Posts
O verly confident when she shouldnt be M akes rash and silly decisions A wkward haircut N ot as good as Aang #BACK.TO.THE.KITCHEN Sorry girls, just kidding. Girl or boy, the new Seasons just dont capture me as much as the first ones. Maybe its the fact that the first ones brought a new concept and the Korra could just never live up to that. In my opinion Avatar is, hands down, the most suitable childrens TV series produced in the last years. I always die a little when i see kids watching those hanna montana shows. Avatar teaches kids some valuable lessons about life and personality. Aang ended up beeing a kind of role model, where Korra is just something you watch and facepalm her decisions every now and again. Up to now, shes just missing someting. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
Well those are book 1 episodes right. By the time it's book 3 Aang is no longer a coward, he is decisive and the perfect Avatar. Nope. Right before the comet Zuko warns Aang of Ozai's plans to destroy the Earth Kingdom. It scares the crap out of Aang and he runs away because he doesn't want to kill Ozai and has no idea what to do. Only in the end because of dues ex machina turtle does he find a non violent solution to Ozai. "Firebending Masters" Aang is still timid and immature, afraid to press on in the temple after seeing one trap and in the test to bring fire destroys Zuko's flame. Korra is not perfect and neither was Aang even by the finale episodes. Korra was made to be the opposite of Aang so naturally she has different strength and weaknesses. Aang faced a very straight forward war problem, but was a coward and ran away. Korra wants to deal with problems head on, but populist revolution, civil war and terrorism are not something that can be solved with force. | ||
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Takuma
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Schmobutzen
Germany284 Posts
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Nahsom
Austria361 Posts
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Takuma
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On November 30 2014 23:44 Nahsom wrote: So after things cooled down a bit. I want to ask you guys about the meditation position of Korra / Aang / Tenzen ? This knuckle position looks so fucking tense and uncomfortable. I am quite into meditation and it kinda irritates me every time. You're into meditation? LOL. It's the 21st Century buddy. People aren't going to think wow you're so cool for saying that. In fact, you probably think you're being all spiritual and shit but you're really just sitting there like an empty-headed fool. It's no different from praying to an imaginary God or washing yourself in the shit infested Ganges thinking there's some sort of spiritual significance. User was warned for this post | ||
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Nahsom
Austria361 Posts
On December 01 2014 00:03 Takuma wrote: You're into meditation? LOL. It's the 21st Century buddy. People aren't going to think wow you're so cool for saying that. In fact, you probably think you're being all spiritual and shit but you're really just sitting there like an empty-headed fool. It's no different from praying to an imaginary God or washing yourself in the shit infested Ganges thinking there's some sort of spiritual significance. User was warned for this post Jeeez talking about built up anger. You should try meditation yourself ... It may help you  | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
But some very rich powerful busy people actually do take 15-30 minutes out of their day to meditate so that they can focus on one thought. CEOs of large companies and shit. They attest that it helps them think and clear their mind and really believe it gives them greater focus. As a person who's completely ignorant of it though, my preconceived notions on it aren't valid. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
On November 29 2014 08:26 Sbrubbles wrote: I agree Grumbels, but since the first season, the show creators haven't made too much of an effort to show the bad guy in a "grey" light. They start out as some apparent idealist but the show quickly tells you that in truth they're evil maniacs (I'm half-expecting that it will show that the bandits in the Earth Kingdom were employed by Kuvira all along). I think the show would benefit a lot if it were done a bit differently, but then I remember I'm not exactly in the target demographic  . Still, I would have loved something like Korra admiting that it wasn't her place to support an archaic monarchy and that Kuvira actually did bring order to the chaos of the Earth Kingdom, only to actually confront Kuvira once she learned of the spirit laser thing (or better yet, if the Earth Empire started to mobilize towards reclaiming Republic City).Yeah, I think the show isn't playing completely fair. They keep having complex situations where there are valid points on both sides and then the issue is solved by the reveal that one side is a front for an evil mastermind that needs to be defeated by Korra. I think the world Korra inhabits doesn't really need an avatar. If she didn't exist then the Amon situation might have resolved itself, furthermore she's the main reason the schemes of Unalaq and Zaheer were relevant. Maybe she has a chance to redeem herself this season, since Kuvira is more similar to Ozai in terms of the threat they pose, -- both are tyrants with a super weapon (spirit bomb & comet fire). | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
I always associated the cross-legged position with meditation. Is that not how it goes? | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
On December 01 2014 01:33 Spaylz wrote: Well that came out of nowhere. I always associated the cross-legged position with meditation. Is that not how it goes? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_position A more common way to meditate is to just sit or lie down though, but obviously the writers couldn't resist using some Eastern trappings in the Avatar series. (yay for orientalism) | ||
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